Accept it kids, all trolling aside this game is not good. It's more streamlined facemash RPG crap where you spend a multitude of brainless hours clicking and go "Oh wow look at this item". It's a con. Games should be improving with sequels not getting worse, and every feature D2 had is missing or mutiliated in this sequel. Stop feeding companies like Activision Blizzard your money for a job poorly done.

Originally posted by Fargol

Originally posted by Banisco

Originally posted by therez0

 

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The point in trying to get here is that in D3 ALL the skills are viable, wen i played D2 was on its release (no sinergies and stuff) and all i leveled were skeletons cos i found them fun, i loved to have my own army even wen i foun that they will wipe vs any boss or player, and i knew it and it was ok. I liked that build but was hardly viable, and i think it will be diferent in D3 meaning that no matter wich skills u have at the moment you will be able to kill stuff and progress on almost every situation.

This.

I played each class to max in the beta, and while I wasn't crazy about some of the class skills, every single one of them was viable at the first level you get it to the last. What they did is scale damage to your weapon damage (which i know sounds a little silly) but it works.

 

I didn't like the ranged classes, but liked the melee ones.   Overall I liked it, and may give it a go once it releases.  What's the point of multi-player though?  People talk less in there than in WoW group dungeons (amazingly).

Originally posted by StormwindX

I may be kicking a dead horse here, but the one thing that REALLY annoyed me in D3 was when I felt like playing solo... but still had to wait in a server queue.

D3 characters being stored server side with an internet connection required to play is by far, the best thing blizzard could of done. Unless of course, you'd prefer the game completely overrun with hackers and dupers ruining the game.

What, you thought an open beta should have no congestion and you'd waltz right in? a blizzard totle at that?

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Accept it kids, all trolling aside this game is not good. It's more streamlined facemash RPG crap where you spend a multitude of brainless hours clicking and go "Oh wow look at this item". It's a con. Games should be improving with sequels not getting worse, and every feature D2 had is missing or mutiliated in this sequel. Stop feeding companies like Activision Blizzard your money for a job poorly done.

Accept what? Your opinion of the game?...gee, i guess if you say so, lol. Actually the game is very good and I cant wait to play

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by LizardEgypt

Accept it kids, all trolling aside this game is not good. It's more streamlined facemash RPG crap where you spend a multitude of brainless hours clicking and go "Oh wow look at this item". It's a con. Games should be improving with sequels not getting worse, and every feature D2 had is missing or mutiliated in this sequel. Stop feeding companies like Activision Blizzard your money for a job poorly done.

Accept what? Your opinion of the game?...gee, i guess if you say so, lol. Actually the game is very good and I cant wait to play

Yeah it's really good. I enjoy dumbed downs games also.

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

1. NO custom games

2. NO pvp (arena like promised at beginning)

3. No duels

4. 4 players in game

5. Can't place stats

6. Everyone is same, can't place skills

7. 5 classes

8 No scrolls of id

9. Different drops for different people? Lmao

 

Ya don't worry though, it should be fun... ROFL. If you were a true d2 player, you know this game is a joke, and the only reason people will buy is because of its name.

by looking at your nickname....i really LOL

1.  this is a blizzard, the all new generation team. not the original devs back in those days. learn to accept the fact.

2.  because it not ready as intended. good that they didn't launch something is not ready 

3.  as above point 2

4. total you can have 5 in a group including yourself.  BTW there's only 5 classes available

5. you can build your character with items that provide +VIT / STR / INT / DEX....etc

6. i dont really get it what you mean but you can move the skill by left click and hold it to move to the shortcut slot.

7. this answer your point 4 as well

8. right click on the item for ID  

9. it a good implementation for ninja looters like in WoW

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by StormwindX

I may be kicking a dead horse here, but the one thing that REALLY annoyed me in D3 was when I felt like playing solo... but still had to wait in a server queue.

D3 characters being stored server side with an internet connection required to play is by far, the best thing blizzard could of done. Unless of course, you'd prefer the game completely overrun with hackers and dupers ruining the game.

What, you thought an open beta should have no congestion and you'd waltz right in? a blizzard totle at that?

You seem to have completely missed their point.

The point being, it's ridiculous to have to wait in a queue in order to play solo, single-player, not with other people, by themself.

How busy Blizzard's servers are should have no bearing on someone's ability to play the game in solo mode.

That's the point.

Keep the character data server side to prevent hacking or whatever for the multiplayer mode. Fine. Completely understandable. But provide it in a way that it's accessible regardless of how many people are logged on.

I know there's a lot of people who will defend anything and everything Blizzard does. I realize that.  But in this case, you're wrong if you're going to say it's "perfectly okay" for someone to have to wait in a queue so they can play a game in single player mode by themself. It's indefensible. It's another in an increasing list of dubious decisions made by Blizzard in the last few years.

This is why they should have left single-player mode offline and only require an internet connection for online multiplayer. Keep multiplayer and single player characters separate. It's completely over-reaching and blatant control-mongering to require an internet connection in order to play a game 100% solo. It's inexcusable and indefensible to have to wait in a queue in order to play the game by yourself.

Here's hoping Blizzard addresses that issue for launch. People are already pissed at them failing to support a variety of graphics chips and setups. People starting the game for a nice solo-run through only to find they have to wait in line to do so is only going to piss people off further.

Before this beta, I was definitely thinking about buying D3.

Now? I'm on the fence. The beta was a big disappointment to me. It felt like I was playing torchlight or something. I spent countless hours playing D2 but I cant imagine D3 being addictive like that. D3 feels very "shallow" to me. Fun, but shallow. Do I need another game that I'll play for a few weeks and then forget about it? Not really.

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by StormwindX

I may be kicking a dead horse here, but the one thing that REALLY annoyed me in D3 was when I felt like playing solo... but still had to wait in a server queue.

D3 characters being stored server side with an internet connection required to play is by far, the best thing blizzard could of done. Unless of course, you'd prefer the game completely overrun with hackers and dupers ruining the game.

What, you thought an open beta should have no congestion and you'd waltz right in? a blizzard totle at that?

Well... I guess you may be right, looking at it from that perspective. It's definitely a good way to curb the actions of hackers and so forth. But still... I do still find it ridiculous/preposterous to have to wait in a server queue in order to play by myself. I mean, sometimes people can't really be bothered to play with others, like when you get home from a bad day at work and just want to kill stuff to blow off some steam. The option to play offline by yourself should be there, but alas, it is not, and that makes me sad.

Maybe I just need to stop being antisocial in these games and actually convince a few RL friends to play with me... that way I won't have to keep complaining about the woes of the solo player, I guess.

And yeah, I know how that works. Blizzard has the means and the funds to have the whole thing running flawlessly for millions of players, but... they just don't. And it's been that way since I remember it... and boy, do I remember struggling with the D1 iteration of Bnet.

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

1. NO custom games

2. NO pvp (arena like promised at beginning)

3. No duels

4. 4 players in game

5. Can't place stats

6. Everyone is same, can't place skills

7. 5 classes

8 No scrolls of id

9. Different drops for different people? Lmao

 

Ya don't worry though, it should be fun... ROFL. If you were a true d2 player, you know this game is a joke, and the only reason people will buy is because of its name.

Your post really isn't that clever or convincing. Did you ever play Diablo?

Diablo 2 introduced zones and a campaign formula (among many other things)...crazy. DIABLO 2 IS DOOMED TO FAIL. Gimme a break man. Its evolution, even if you don't like the game. 

Originally posted by TangentPoint

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by StormwindX

I may be kicking a dead horse here, but the one thing that REALLY annoyed me in D3 was when I felt like playing solo... but still had to wait in a server queue.

D3 characters being stored server side with an internet connection required to play is by far, the best thing blizzard could of done. Unless of course, you'd prefer the game completely overrun with hackers and dupers ruining the game.

What, you thought an open beta should have no congestion and you'd waltz right in? a blizzard totle at that?

You seem to have completely missed their point.

The point being, it's ridiculous to have to wait in a queue in order to play solo, single-player, not with other people, by themself.

How busy Blizzard's servers are should have no bearing on someone's ability to play the game in solo mode.

That's the point.

Keep the character data server side to prevent hacking or whatever for the multiplayer mode. Fine. Completely understandable. But provide it in a way that it's accessible regardless of how many people are logged on.

I know there's a lot of people who will defend anything and everything Blizzard does. I realize that.  But in this case, you're wrong if you're going to say it's "perfectly okay" for someone to have to wait in a queue so they can play a game in single player mode by themself. It's indefensible. It's another in an increasing list of dubious decisions made by Blizzard in the last few years.

This is why they should have left single-player mode offline and only require an internet connection for online multiplayer. Keep multiplayer and single player characters separate. It's completely over-reaching and blatant control-mongering to require an internet connection in order to play a game 100% solo. It's inexcusable and indefensible to have to wait in a queue in order to play the game by yourself.

Here's hoping Blizzard addresses that issue for launch. People are already pissed at them failing to support a variety of graphics chips and setups. People starting the game for a nice solo-run through only to find they have to wait in line to do so is only going to piss people off further.

 

You may or may not have solo play available, but it still all has to be server side. you cant have some hacked to holy hell players jumping in multiplayer without ruining it for everyone...thats the point.

I mean you could have strictly offline solo play, but then those characters could not crossover to online. blizzard is not going to do that. easier to just keep it all online with all characters stored server side.

D3 is an online game. Like any online game it may or may not have growing pains and server congestion. I'm sure blizz will address that so queues are kept to a minimum.

All i was saying about having to wait in a queue was it seemed unrealistic to think there wouldnt be one.

Originally posted by wrightstuf

I mean you could have strictly offline solo play, but then those characters could not crossover to online. blizzard is not going to do that. easier to just keep it all online with all characters stored server side.

 

 

You mean like they did in D2?

It worked well, you know.

To be Honest, i dont give a rats ass who likes the game and who dont!

All i care about is weather i like it or not. and guess what! I LIKE IT!!!

Their was more then 2 hours of gamplay for this stress test.

How?

Play each of the toons all the way thru to the screen reads in big bold letters

"YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE DIABLO 3 BETA"

 if your good you should do this by lvl 9. then u should do it a few more times so

u can  reach lvl 13!  the Max lvl of the beta.

And each toon will prob take you about 2 hours each.. If your only playing thru 1 time and quiting at lvl 9. You dont have any idea what the games about.

Yea it plays a bit like a Demo. So what? you did not have to pay anything to play this "demo"

all you had to do was have a Account.

Now on to D2 Facts!

EVERYONE! played FOTM builds. Everyone was the same few builds. 3 build may be 4 on some toons

If u did not Focus on these Few FOTOM builds. you pretty much Sucked. I played Diablo 1 when it came out in the 90's and then d2 and the LOD. im a Old school player from the 90's im a 34 yr man... Not some teenager on these forums complaining because the game dont play like some complex games do today..

So why is it everyone is saying that D3 is not complex enough? Because it was never intended to be thats why!

Here is the Bottom line..  THERE WILL NEVER BE THE PERFECT ONLINE GAME.. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THIER OWN VERSION OF WHAT A "PERFECT" GAME WOULD BE!

You can't please everyone all of the time, you can only hope to please some of the people most of the time..

Originally posted by XxjagoxX

To be Honest, i dont give a rats ass who likes the game and who dont!

All i care about is weather i like it or not. and guess what! I LIKE IT!!!

Their was more then 2 hours of gamplay for this stress test.

How?

Play each of the toons all the way thru to the screen reads in big bold letters

"YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE DIABLO 3 BETA"

 if your good you should do this by lvl 9. then u should do it a few more times so

u can  reach lvl 13!  the Max lvl of the beta.

And each toon will prob take you about 2 hours each.. If your only playing thru 1 time and quiting at lvl 9. You dont have any idea what the games about.

Yea it plays a bit like a Demo. So what? you did not have to pay anything to play this "demo"

all you had to do was have a Account.

Now on to D2 Facts!

EVERYONE! played FOTM builds. Everyone was the same few builds. 3 build may be 4 on some toons

If u did not Focus on these Few FOTOM builds. you pretty much Sucked. I played Diablo 1 when it came out in the 90's and then d2 and the LOD. im a Old school player from the 90's im a 34 yr man... Not some teenager on these forums complaining because the game dont play like some complex games do today..

So why is it everyone is saying that D3 is not complex enough? Because it was never intended to be thats why!

 

Here is the Bottom line..  THERE WILL NEVER BE THE PERFECT ONLINE GAME.. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THIER OWN VERSION OF WHAT A "PERFECT" GAME WOULD BE!

You can't please everyone all of the time, you can only hope to please some of the people most of the time..

TBH You are wrong. 3 or 4 builds (? Let me name a few off the top of my head, and since you most likely spawned .11+ I will keep my argument in that time frame.

Wind Druid

Smiter

Hammerdin

Foh

PnB

Poison Necro

Fb Sorc (Mb/Es or pure Es for each)

Blizz Sorc

Orber

Lightning Sorc

Bowazon

Javazon

Trapsin

WWsin

Ww Barb

Zerk

I could go on with hybrids and different builds for different characters, but you obviously were either terrible or played in pubs thinking you were good. Next time you use the term "fact", make sure its a fact bud.

And if you say 3-4 per toon, which I believe you were anyway, that is a lot more than diablo 3 has to offer.

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

Originally posted by spikers14

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

1. NO custom games

2. NO pvp (arena like promised at beginning)

3. No duels

4. 4 players in game

5. Can't place stats

6. Everyone is same, can't place skills

7. 5 classes

8 No scrolls of id

9. Different drops for different people? Lmao

 

Ya don't worry though, it should be fun... ROFL. If you were a true d2 player, you know this game is a joke, and the only reason people will buy is because of its name.

Your post really isn't that clever or convincing. Did you ever play Diablo?

Diablo 2 introduced zones and a campaign formula (among many other things)...crazy. DIABLO 2 IS DOOMED TO FAIL. Gimme a break man. Its evolution, even if you don't like the game. 

Must I rip a silly little blizzard nut rider again?

Diablo 3 will not fail, and I never said it will. I am stating that it is a mere shell of the very well made game that preceded it. The fact that they are downgrading every aspect of the game to make it simpler and more enjoyable for simple minded children (as yourself most likely), is ridiculous. Diablo without pvp and custom games is just a shitty generic hack and slash. Keep trying fanboy, maybe one day you can be right.

PVP is coming...Runes and customization has been discussed at great length. Apparently you have chosen to ignore that. I won't address your feeble insult. I feel its wrong to attack the mentally handicapped.

Originally posted by Silverchild

Originally posted by wrightstuf

I mean you could have strictly offline solo play, but then those characters could not crossover to online. blizzard is not going to do that. easier to just keep it all online with all characters stored server side.

 

 

You mean like they did in D2?

 

It worked well, you know.

Diablo 2 was also one of the most pirated games in history. Yes, it worked well for the criminals, but not so well for blizzard.

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

Originally posted by XxjagoxX

To be Honest, i dont give a rats ass who likes the game and who dont!

All i care about is weather i like it or not. and guess what! I LIKE IT!!!

Their was more then 2 hours of gamplay for this stress test.

How?

Play each of the toons all the way thru to the screen reads in big bold letters

"YOU HAVE COMPLETED THE DIABLO 3 BETA"

 if your good you should do this by lvl 9. then u should do it a few more times so

u can  reach lvl 13!  the Max lvl of the beta.

And each toon will prob take you about 2 hours each.. If your only playing thru 1 time and quiting at lvl 9. You dont have any idea what the games about.

Yea it plays a bit like a Demo. So what? you did not have to pay anything to play this "demo"

all you had to do was have a Account.

Now on to D2 Facts!

EVERYONE! played FOTM builds. Everyone was the same few builds. 3 build may be 4 on some toons

If u did not Focus on these Few FOTOM builds. you pretty much Sucked. I played Diablo 1 when it came out in the 90's and then d2 and the LOD. im a Old school player from the 90's im a 34 yr man... Not some teenager on these forums complaining because the game dont play like some complex games do today..

So why is it everyone is saying that D3 is not complex enough? Because it was never intended to be thats why!

 

Here is the Bottom line..  THERE WILL NEVER BE THE PERFECT ONLINE GAME.. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS THIER OWN VERSION OF WHAT A "PERFECT" GAME WOULD BE!

You can't please everyone all of the time, you can only hope to please some of the people most of the time..

TBH You are wrong. 3 or 4 builds (? Let me name a few off the top of my head, and since you most likely spawned .11+ I will keep my argument in that time frame.

 

Wind Druid 

Smiter

Hammerdin

Foh

PnB

Poison Necro

Fb Sorc (Mb/Es or pure Es for each)

Blizz Sorc

Orber

Lightning Sorc

Bowazon

Javazon

Trapsin

WWsin

Ww Barb

Zerk

I could go on with hybrids and different builds for different characters, but you obviously were either terrible or played in pubs thinking you were good. Next time you use the term "fact", make sure its a fact bud.

And if you say 3-4 per toon, which I believe you were anyway, that is a lot more than diablo 3 has to offer.

Most of these builds were viable because of engima, the ith era and charms. Also before synergy, most of these builds sucked. Regardless you used 1 upto 3 abilities and that was that. Some usually just stand there and spammed, others used enigma to get ontop of their prey. 

Not exactly a show of complexity. Also it shows that items played the primary role in D2 as it does in D3. Cheers. Btw diablo3 has 100s of builds per character with 6 skills instead of the primary and secondary attack.

edit:typos

Good job, you named off only a few builds for each toon. Just like i said, Because those are the FOTOM Builds that everyone plays..

Yea you could make other builds.. But  if you do you will have everyone in the game saying WTF? Why? thats not Uber! that sucks!

Oh and FYI i still have a D2 account. with each lvl class about lvl 85+  from wayy back in the day. from patch .08 buddy, Yea even before The  ITH's were ruling the game..

I dont care what you think. I liked the d3 beta. and im looking forward to playing the game when it comes out. now go suck your thumb and cry because you cant make me change my mind.

Originally posted by spikers14

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

Originally posted by spikers14

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

1. NO custom games

2. NO pvp (arena like promised at beginning)

3. No duels

4. 4 players in game

5. Can't place stats

6. Everyone is same, can't place skills

7. 5 classes

8 No scrolls of id

9. Different drops for different people? Lmao

 

Ya don't worry though, it should be fun... ROFL. If you were a true d2 player, you know this game is a joke, and the only reason people will buy is because of its name.

Your post really isn't that clever or convincing. Did you ever play Diablo?

Diablo 2 introduced zones and a campaign formula (among many other things)...crazy. DIABLO 2 IS DOOMED TO FAIL. Gimme a break man. Its evolution, even if you don't like the game. 

Must I rip a silly little blizzard nut rider again?

Diablo 3 will not fail, and I never said it will. I am stating that it is a mere shell of the very well made game that preceded it. The fact that they are downgrading every aspect of the game to make it simpler and more enjoyable for simple minded children (as yourself most likely), is ridiculous. Diablo without pvp and custom games is just a shitty generic hack and slash. Keep trying fanboy, maybe one day you can be right.

PVP is coming...Runes and customization has been discussed at great length. Apparently you have chosen to ignore that. I won't address your feeble insult. I feel its wrong to attack the mentally handicapped.

Yea buddy! I am really looking foward to PvP diablo style. Runes and gear only gotten in "inferno mode"  ftw!

Originally posted by ihatenoobs01

9. Different drops for different people? Lmao

pickit bots are so much better ...