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  Jayaris

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OP  4/22/12 4:50:04 PM#1

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

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  Chrisbox

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4/22/12 4:53:57 PM#2

Well in regards to your question, this games intro gameplay is not its strongest feature for sure.  To me the game really became appealing around lvl 11 and now im addicted to it.

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  Vannor

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4/22/12 4:55:45 PM#3

Any form of entertainment should draw people in from the start.. if it doesn't do that for some people then thats it's problem right there. Everyone can't and probably shouldn't do things they don't enjoy in the hope that it might get better.

I muself got to about level 30 in TERA and I consider that a good try.. there are more wrongs with the game than right imo. For that reason I won't be buying it. Put that combat system into a more interesting world with more interesting quests and with classes I find more appealing and I would have been into it.

  Purgatus

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4/22/12 4:56:30 PM#4

Well, I for one, have never played a game for 10 hours, and didnt get a sense of what it was like. Its true that people shouldn't just bash it without keeping an open mind though.

If you cannot give your players a feel for what the game is like in the beginning, which for an MMO is the first few days / 10 - 20 levels depending on what the cap is, then its just poor game design.

When I played WoW, DAoC, Rifts, SWTOR, etc, I got a sense right away what the game was like. How long do you feel you need to play before getting the gist?

  Searias

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4/22/12 4:57:59 PM#5
Originally posted by Jayaris

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

It's pretty simple, they go into the game thinking it will fail, and try to find whatever they can to prove it. Plus, most of them are already brain washed by Guild Wars 2, and they will never say anything good about Tera :P.

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  drel

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4/22/12 4:59:15 PM#6
Originally posted by Jayaris

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

What you say applies to Diablo 3 too.

  munsil42

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4/22/12 5:00:58 PM#7

SWTOR - Beginning  was Awesome! Ending - well we all know about that. And i had really HIGH hopes for this game.

Tera - Beggining is slow, but like others have said once you get off the initial island it starts getting interesting. Is it a game I will play longterm? No clue, I broke my crystal ball.

Isn't it usually the end game content everyone complains about anyways? Who cares about the initial island....

  aslan132

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4/22/12 5:00:59 PM#8

First impressions are everything, especially for MMOs or any game where theres a possibility to play for hundreds of hours. If it doesnt grab your attention, and then hold it, then whats the point of putting in more time just to level up and see where it goes? 

These days, with so many options to choose from, and more games being released every month, Im not gonna invest my time in something that i get bored with in 10 minutes. Everyone has thier own personal tastes, whether its music, TV, or video games. And they arent wrong if Tera is the worst game they ever played. Doesnt mean you have to hate it too, you might think its the best game you ever played. Neither of you is wrong.

Personally, i played Tera, forced myself to play for 3 long hours (long because i was bored to death), tried every class (to the capitol city and a couple beyond). Its not my cup of tea. I will never put money into this game, and have no desire to ever play it again. Does it mean the game sucks? No. It means i think it sucked. The questing is boring, same thing we have done for over a decade, the combat is slow, sluggish, and most of the classes all play exactly the same up until level 15 or so. Most even share the same skills and dodges. As far as the dodging goes. its really only makes the combat worse. Youre rooted for casting any spells or skills, and being able to backflip over someone that sneaked up on me for PVP is not enough to make the combat fun. There has to be more than a very small minor single selling point, and unfortunately for Tera, thats all there is. 

"Tera- you can do a backflip in PVP over the person trying to kill you"....there ya go, thats the games new tagline and only redeeming quality. Outside of that, guess what.... Its Aion in a new skin (without the wings even, which makes it SOOOO much worse).

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4/22/12 5:02:47 PM#9


Originally posted by Vannor
Any form of entertainment should draw people in from the start.. if it doesn't do that for some people then thats it's problem right there. Everyone can't and probably shouldn't do things they don't enjoy in the hope that it might get better.
I muself got to about level 30 in TERA and I consider that a good try.. there are more wrongs with the game than right imo. For that reason I won't be buying it. Put that combat system into a more interesting world with more interesting quests and with classes I find more appealing and I would have been into it.


I disagree. I think that video games have to afford a larger learning curve since it is an interactive media. So what ends up happening is that the more familiar you are with how these games work, the more boring the starting levels feel. Conversely, if you aren't used to the combat system or how quests and travel work, then the opening levels are a good way to get you acclimated.
If you start off you game with the training wheels off, you alienate a large number of potential customers. Its not that big of a deal if an mmo has a slow start. It doesn't get good til level 11? Big deal. That's like 2 hours out of 1000+.

  Tokken

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4/22/12 5:03:00 PM#10

I'm enjoying the game, but it gets better after lvl 11 when you go to the main city and start from there. It's nice to get a horse so early in game.  I'm lvl 20 now and it keeps getting better to me.

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  mysticmouse

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4/22/12 5:03:19 PM#11

I played the game for around an hour and decided it that it just was not my thing. You can  play a game for just a few minutes or a few hours and decide that your not interested in playing it., sometimes its just a matter of playstyle or what you like in the art aspect. It does not mean that your bashing it. I am sure lots of folks will hvae a blast with it and thats cool.

  Jayaris

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OP  4/22/12 5:03:28 PM#12
Originally posted by Purgatus

Well, I for one, have never played a game for 10 hours, and didnt get a sense of what it was like. Its true that people shouldn't just bash it without keeping an open mind though.

If you cannot give your players a feel for what the game is like in the beginning, which for an MMO is the first few days / 10 - 20 levels depending on what the cap is, then its just poor game design.

When I played WoW, DAoC, Rifts, SWTOR, etc, I got a sense right away what the game was like. How long do you feel you need to play before getting the gist?

I haven't played DAoC Rift or SWTOR, but having played WoW I can say I understood absolutely nothing about how the game would be played from the first 10 hours - RFC isn't till level 20 the quests were simple fetch and farm quests and I had no idea what was going on.

Needless to say, the difference between my impression of the first twenty levels and the end-game at 60 (Which for a long-term player is what is most important) were vastly different.

The only thing you can get an impression of in the first twenty levels, is the first twenty levels.

I never played any Battlegrounds went to any raids joined any guilds or grinded any gear, yet 90% of my time was just that when the real game began.

I'd say level 40, or a more general 60% of the level cap.

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  Derpybird

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4/22/12 5:03:32 PM#13
Originally posted by Jayaris

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

I played between 8 and 10 hours, got up to level 16, and figured at the point I had enough information to decide that I didn't like the game enough to buy it. Does that mean that I did it wrong?

"Loading screens" are not "instances".
Your personal efforts to troll any game will not, in fact, impact the success or failure of said game.

  Jayaris

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OP  4/22/12 5:07:51 PM#14
Originally posted by aslan132

First impressions are everything, especially for MMOs or any game where theres a possibility to play for hundreds of hours. If it doesnt grab your attention, and then hold it, then whats the point of putting in more time just to level up and see where it goes? 

These days, with so many options to choose from, and more games being released every month, Im not gonna invest my time in something that i get bored with in 10 minutes. Everyone has thier own personal tastes, whether its music, TV, or video games. And they arent wrong if Tera is the worst game they ever played. Doesnt mean you have to hate it too, you might think its the best game you ever played. Neither of you is wrong.

Personally, i played Tera, forced myself to play for 3 long hours (long because i was bored to death), tried every class (to the capitol city and a couple beyond). Its not my cup of tea. I will never put money into this game, and have no desire to ever play it again. Does it mean the game sucks? No. It means i think it sucked. The questing is boring, same thing we have done for over a decade, the combat is slow, sluggish, and most of the classes all play exactly the same up until level 15 or so. Most even share the same skills and dodges. As far as the dodging goes. its really only makes the combat worse. Youre rooted for casting any spells or skills, and being able to backflip over someone that sneaked up on me for PVP is not enough to make the combat fun. There has to be more than a very small minor single selling point, and unfortunately for Tera, thats all there is. 

"Tera- you can do a backflip in PVP over the person trying to kill you"....there ya go, thats the games new tagline and only redeeming quality. Outside of that, guess what.... Its Aion in a new skin (without the wings even, which makes it SOOOO much worse).

In 3 hours you completed every class past the Island of Dawn? Shut the front door.

Tera is Aion is a new skin Aion is previous MMO in a new skin, Ultima Online is a MUD in a new skin.

The races are different the setting is different the story is different, they are both fantasy MMORPG's with elements found in every other game in that genre.

 

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  Jayaris

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OP  4/22/12 5:09:32 PM#15
Originally posted by Charlizzard
Originally posted by Jayaris

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

I played between 8 and 10 hours, got up to level 16, and figured at the point I had enough information to decide that I didn't like the game enough to buy it. Does that mean that I did it wrong?

Maybe you would of enjoyed TERA immensely if you continued playing it, maybe at a later date they will introduce a trial and you can take another look. 

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  Kehdar

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4/22/12 5:11:01 PM#16
Originally posted by Purgatus

Well, I for one, have never played a game for 10 hours, and didnt get a sense of what it was like. Its true that people shouldn't just bash it without keeping an open mind though.

If you cannot give your players a feel for what the game is like in the beginning, which for an MMO is the first few days / 10 - 20 levels depending on what the cap is, then its just poor game design.

When I played WoW, DAoC, Rifts, SWTOR, etc, I got a sense right away what the game was like. How long do you feel you need to play before getting the gist?

First i'm not stalking you, it's just a coincidence if i quote you again. ;)

 

I agree that in this game they made a poor job of enticing a new player, the starting island is quite dull.

And while I agree that Rift and SWTOR have a decent starting area. I can't say the same for WOW. (i never played DAoC if not a beta long time ago so i don't know) 

Maybe it changed in the last years i don't know but from what i remember of the human starting area in WoW the quests progession was something like:

(QG quest giver)

 

QG: Please kill those 10 kobolds

YOU: Right away!

 

- later --

QG: Oh Thanks! Now please kill that other kobolds with a different name!

YOU: Of course it's my job!

 

-- later --

QG: Great, look i don't want to impose but there are some minerals in that cave... they are guarded by some kobolds.

YOU: Hey i'm the hero already moving!

 

-- later--

QG: You are a life saver, Now if you want to move to Goldshire there is some work there too.

YOU: At once!

 

-- Goldshire --

QG2: Hey I heard you have a way with kobolds can you explore this 2 mines full of them?

QG3: Since you like to kill Kobolds can you get some golden dust from them please?

QGX: Kobolds blah blah blah Kobold....

YOU: ........

 

So really, is this better?

  Jayaris

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OP  4/22/12 5:12:10 PM#17
Originally posted by Vannor

Any form of entertainment should draw people in from the start.. if it doesn't do that for some people then thats it's problem right there. Everyone can't and probably shouldn't do things they don't enjoy in the hope that it might get better.

I muself got to about level 30 in TERA and I consider that a good try.. there are more wrongs with the game than right imo. For that reason I won't be buying it. Put that combat system into a more interesting world with more interesting quests and with classes I find more appealing and I would have been into it.

You're not wrong and TERA's early game could definitely be vastly improved, I hope that the developers continue to work on it.

But, Age of Conan had a fantastic first twenty levels did it not?

Warhammer Online's early game was also well received..

And I don't doubt that people are going to love there personal story lines in Guild Wars 2..

A bad early game creates the problem of a lower conversion rate from new players to old players.

A bad late game creates the problem of massive playerbase drop off.

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  BizkitNL

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4/22/12 5:13:35 PM#18

I guess that anyone that really wants to give it an honest shot, should get past the starting isle.

I, myself, couldn't sadly. But it's not like I started a crusade against TERA for it either.

Feel like trying Planetside 2? Get a headstart with the starter kit!

  asianbboy101

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4/22/12 5:13:35 PM#19
Originally posted by Jayaris

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

so by your logic........If i say the game is fantastic and played under 10 hours of playing time; my input doesn't count as well?

  Jayaris

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OP  4/22/12 5:15:19 PM#20
Originally posted by asianbboy101
Originally posted by Jayaris

Why are people judging the game based off of less than 10 hours playing time? The game isn't 10 hours long, a miniscule fraction of the game is 10 hours. So don't play for four hours and say 'Overall' I think TERA is bad - You haven't played the game, you've messed around for a few hours.

so by your logic........If i say the game is fantastic and played under 10 hours of playing time; my input doesn't count as well?

Quite right, positive feedback from people who had barely played the game did little to stop the massive playerbase drop-offs of past AAA MMO's.

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