Originally posted by Himemiya

Originally posted by MadnessRealm

I actually think the gameplay of TERA to be actually quite weak. The combat isn't fluid at all, and in the end you just stay still and spam your skills like you do in tab-targetting MMORPG, the only difference being that you must be looking at where you hit if you're a ranged class. Dodging doesn't really take a very active part of the game as animations are too long, restrictive and hard to cancel.  In terms of gameplay, games like Dragon Nest and C9 are far superior, as they have a much more fluidity and active combat compared to TERA. However, neither of those are Open-World like TERA is, so I'll give points to TERA for that. But beyond the open world and the graphics, TERA doesn't live up to the hype at all when it comes to combat.

People, an example of someone who didn't play the game but is posting as if he/she did.

Dodging/blocking cancels most of the animations in-game. Had you played you would've known this.

If you stand there while mobs wail on you, you *will* die. Health was lowered across the board for the lower levels and mobs hit you harder.

Nevermind, what am I saying. This person stood head-to-head with one of the elite monsters in-game and didn't die. Congrats, you're the first.

Standing still while minions wail on you will also guarantee you...ah screw it, why do I bother.

I've played the game during CBT, tried out each classes and had a Priest and a Warrior over Lv.25. Especially in the case of ranged classes, I've found myself barely unable to move during the fairly long skill animations, which heavily prolonged battles. Dodging in TERA is in the form of a skill (like Dodge in the Warrior's case). During skills animations, you're often restricted from moving (because they decided to make the skills as flashy as possible with cool animations and all). This is not true for the other games I've mentionned (DN and C9) who have a more fluid combat that requires far more movement and active dodging from the player than it does in TERA, and where movement can cancel most skills and actions. 

Monsters in TERA don't really move at all, they stay on the ground (same goes for the players) but can be knocked down. Beyond this, there is very little recoil received from most attacks, which makes combat even less engaging. This is very similar to tab-targetting games as, besides CC skills, very few attacks done will hamper your enemy's movement or action with the exception of  knock down effect in TERA, which again allows you to just stand still and spam your skills for a longer period of time.  Monsters are just staying still in front of you and attacking, they're acting the same way as they do in tab-targetting games.... moving sandbags.  Even Chronicles Of Spellborn had a far more engaging combat than TERA, at least the AI there made the monsters work as a group with the warrior mobs defending the caster mobs, etc.

Originally posted by nomatics856

SWTOR when it was released I did not like it at all, I felt it was better suited as a single player rpg, the game was too easy, the classes were not fun, skills and combat did not feel fluid, the PVE instances were not fun. I did not like the game at all. I gave the game a 3/10 only points for graphics and voice acting and a point for it actually be a sci fi star wars online rpg.  I was called a troll and blasted non stop, but in the end SWTOR lived up to be a horrible MMORPG.

Now i played teras open beta, and wow, I have been critical of every mmorpg released, age of conan, swtor, lotro, vanguard etc etc, any every time I blast them I was called a WoW fan boy and a troll but in the end these games went to or are going to free to play and ended up not being good.

As a huge WoW fan, "PRE Cataclysm". I started tera, right off the back I was wowed by the graphics incredible, but graphics do not win me over, gameplay does, and boy does it sure live up to it, I have access to diablo 3 beta and I have yet to really touch it, TERA is very addicting, combat while not revolutionary still feels extremely fluid and fun, I made a popori lancer that looked like a puppy and the combat was great fun, I felt like I was in complete control of my character and it made grinding "if any grinding", less boring because combat was actually fun.

 

The quest were kill X to get Y, but I didnt mind it, I knew what I was getting into another theme park mmorpg which it is no denying it, but the monsters looked great, I couldnt wait to kill something new cause each new monster looked creepy and more bad ass than the next. Quest while some were interesting were like what you see in every mmorpg they have their ups and their downs, but leveling was quick and rewarding through questing.

So i get to level 12, I get my mount and I head to the first PVP area, the lumber thingy I cant remember the name, but there were level 20s - 30s ganking outside the area, which I found thrilling, I never felt this thrill since UO, and with it being non factioned based you formed your own allies to try to push them back.  I loved the ganking part even though I was being ganked because of the thrill, running outside, collecting my quest items and looking around my shoulder to hurry up and getting back on my mount.

With this mmorpg not having factions is a huge plus, factions should not be in mmorpgs, they only break the community, and causes a huge imbalance (SWTOR) for example. This is a huge huge plus that I can form alliances or enemies with any one.

So far I played the game 1-12 as a lancer, so far its been AMAZING  one of the best next gen mmorpgs to come out and one of the best mmorpgs to come out since WOW. I have already made a pre order. Long live TERA

end gamr guild wars > what you think . This game is pvp, if you ran around and did quests, that is not our problem.Unlike SWTOR, the Tera end game like all Korean mmo's is well thoughtout and the focal point of the Tera. SWTOR had nothing like the Political system of Tera as well as the the guild seigeing or game mechanics. So instead of saying a few things that are so general in eVERY mmorpg,. why not try the game first.

Sucks that people won't realize how shit this game is until they get to endgame and played it for 2 months and realize that PvP is broken as fuck and it's worse than any WoW expansion as far as RNG is concerned. Insanely bad class balance, lock-on skills, tedious enchancting system and the most meaningless guild wars system ever. Glad I had the chance to play that period on a korean account. This is no better than SWTOR and once peoples honeymoon goggles wear off they'll all go GW2.

SWTOR was and is pure garbage. Tera, same basic crap we've been playing for 10+ years except for the combat. Uninstalled after 10 minutes in some beta a month ago. Tired of playing the same crap over and over. If you enjoy it, more power to you. I think this game will sell 200k-300k copies and it'll be F2P within 6 months.

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Originally posted by Themehosptal
Sucks that people won't realize how shit this game is until they get to endgame and played it for 2 months and realize that PvP is broken as fuck and it's worse than any WoW expansion as far as RNG is concerned. Insanely bad class balance, lock-on skills, tedious enchancting system and the most meaningless guild wars system ever. Glad I had the chance to play that period on a korean account. This is no better than SWTOR and once peoples honeymoon goggles wear off they'll all go GW2.

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QFT

Originally posted by Themehosptal

Sucks that people won't realize how shit this game is until they get to endgame and played it for 2 months and realize that PvP is broken as fuck and it's worse than any WoW expansion as far as RNG is concerned. Insanely bad class balance, lock-on skills, tedious enchancting system and the most meaningless guild wars system ever. Glad I had the chance to play that period on a korean account. This is no better than SWTOR and once peoples honeymoon goggles wear off they'll all go GW2.

I don't say this is not what will happen, but why should i deny myself the pleasure to find out by myself?

As a side note, I like GW2 from what i know and I'm going to try it next week, but i see a lot of hard core cynic players like you going on and on, on how we are all fooling ourselve with Tera, then i see the same people giggling like a girl with dreamy eyes on GW2 forum, so what make you so sure GW2 will not be just another of those games?

I'm not saying GW2 will fail, I'm quite sure of the contrary but i'm just curious.

I'm really glad that people have good things to say about this game, as I've already pre ordered.  There's nothing worse than pre ordering a game, only to see it bashed daily by people on forums.

I just hope that the EU version doesn't flop, as it's being done by Frogster as opposed to EN Masse.

Ever day is a bad day with Frogster, today a new post popped out on the official board. Apparently the rewards from preorder and collector will be character bound and not account bound, so you can have them only on 1 character.

Originally posted by Kehdar

Originally posted by Themehosptal

Sucks that people won't realize how shit this game is until they get to endgame and played it for 2 months and realize that PvP is broken as fuck and it's worse than any WoW expansion as far as RNG is concerned. Insanely bad class balance, lock-on skills, tedious enchancting system and the most meaningless guild wars system ever. Glad I had the chance to play that period on a korean account. This is no better than SWTOR and once peoples honeymoon goggles wear off they'll all go GW2.

I don't say this is not what will happen, but why should i deny myself the pleasure to find out by myself?

As a side note, I like GW2 from what i know and I'm going to try it next week, but i see a lot of hard core cynic players like you going on and on, on how we are all fooling ourselve with Tera, then i see the same people giggling like a girl with dreamy eyes on GW2 forum, so what make you so sure GW2 will not be just another of those games?

 

I'm not saying GW2 will fail, I'm quite sure of the contrary but i'm just curious.

There's a reason I spent months playing korean tera, it's because I thought it was different from these generic MMORPGs like SWTOR and that the combat system would be great at end game. I already made these mistakes and so when I see all these people talking about how awesome the combat is and how great the endgame seems and how much potential the game has I cringe like crazy. It just sucks having to watch people get excited for something which I know is a genuinely bad game. It's linear, it's the same themepark generic crap we have all played before, they're constantly removing content and censoring and promising that the game will be great. I have played at high level WoW arena in TBC which is far from impressive, but when I compare it to TERA it makes me laugh at how much harder and complex WoW is compared to TERA.

TERA's best aspect is the combat system. Now there is only two issues. one is that they must've realized that your average MMORPG player isn't good enough or interested enough in a game where it's hard even aim at your target, so they dumbed down the combat system to the point where it's a bad gimmick. I play FPS constantly and I can't see how anyone could miss an ability in TERA. I can understand dodging abilities, but you can't fail at hiting your target unless you play with a joystick and footpedals. It's so simple that the enjoyment of having to aim your abilities is completely removed. Then there's the problem with being stuck in your animation. Combine these two and the combat system is dreadful and will in no way be more skilled than your average tab target mmorpg, and especially not GW2 which already have the one good thing in TERAs combat system, dodge.  

I could go on and on about pve, aesthetics, questing, enviroments and mobs being repetitive as f¤¤k, but I'm far too tired and will just go to bed. GN and gl with TERA.

Originally posted by Themehosptal

I could go on and on about pve, aesthetics, questing, enviroments and mobs being repetitive as f¤¤k, but I'm far too tired and will just go to bed. GN and gl with TERA.

OK nite, I won't stress that you answered a rhetorical question instead of my real one ;)

Originally posted by Valentina

lol at you trying to make your opinions sound like fact which is probably why you got flamed.

 

I personally feel like TERA is boring as hell. I can't stand it, and that's mostly because I've played SW:TOR. Unlike you, I feel like SW:TOR is the right direction for MMO's. They could do things better with it, sure but that's the case with any game, and mostly based on opinions and preferences rather than there being truly something wrong with the game. It feels like an MMO, it plays like an MMO, it's fluid and well polished for the most part for a brand new MMO built off a brand new engine from a company that's never done an MMO before. The quest system is vastly improved from what we're so used to, which is a drab and uncreative, pointless uphill trek rather than an enjoyable and engaging experience which SW:TOR provides for probably the first time in MMO history. I've seen people leave the game, and come back and say they can't play other games now thanks to that game so BioWare is clearly doing many things right. Considering they've got almost 2 million subscribers at this point, and yes that is accurate despite what you might be lead to believe, TERA won't come close to that, and should SW:TOR drop off over time, it's still a really good MMO compared to everything else out there right now. For it to launch with even one million subscribers after it's first month is ridiculously good, and hasn't been matched yet by any game, even WoW launched with 350k players, and stayed that way for the first year of it's release and even saw a drop off for a while. So all this "SWTOR IS BAD" crap can f*ck off til there's any real basis for that, I'm so over it.

TERA on the other hand provides a profoundly dull, and repetitive leveling experience with absolutely 0 feeling of involvement in anything going on in the game world, the animations are cool, the graphics are actually not AS good as they look in a screenshot, even maxed out, something about them look profoundly plastic and...Off.... It runs great for me, but it looks and feels like an old game. I'm tired of MMO's that present a pretty world to look at with virtually no real sense of being a world at all, whether that be presented in a decently in depth story (preferably for me) or otherwise. The combat is cool for 10 minutes, but really in the end all it does is make every encounter feel and look the same. Overall I think this game is going to fail as a subscription game in the U.S. and Europe within a couple months, and that's being liberal with my time allotment on this title.

I know I'm gonna get flamed by TERA fanboy's but if you think this game is going to be more successful than SW:TOR or any other major title in recent history or the near future I'm going to rofl at you in a few months when it's faring far worse than any of them.

SW:TOR was fun in the beginning it really was but after a while i could have sworn i was playing a consol game with oddly named NPC's running around as i did my story quests. All in all SW:TOR is the standard MMO with a SW skin and becaus of that very reason it will never die. Just like how it took years for FF10 to final take its last breaths the same will be true for SW:TOR because you are in the SW universe that you have always wanted since you were little, it doesnt matter if the game is a stand alone decent MMO, the simply aspect of it being SW will make you love it. But in the end my personal opinion is that Tera is just a smoother and funner game. Sure it may never touch the numbers of WoW, GW2(soon), or SW:TOR, but those who will play it will do so cause they feel like the realms of Arborea is their Galaxy far far away (or azaroth for the more job oriented sadists, lol jk)

Originally posted by kanezfan

 

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Originally posted by Themehosptal
Sucks that people won't realize how shit this game is until they get to endgame and played it for 2 months and realize that PvP is broken as fuck and it's worse than any WoW expansion as far as RNG is concerned. Insanely bad class balance, lock-on skills, tedious enchancting system and the most meaningless guild wars system ever. Glad I had the chance to play that period on a korean account. This is no better than SWTOR and once peoples honeymoon goggles wear off they'll all go GW2.

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QFT

+1

I tried tera and for me it's going be a big bad fail.Maybe even worse than swtor.

Originally posted by Kehdar

Originally posted by Themehosptal

I could go on and on about pve, aesthetics, questing, enviroments and mobs being repetitive as f¤¤k, but I'm far too tired and will just go to bed. GN and gl with TERA.

 

OK nite, I won't stress that you answered a rhetorical question instead of my real one ;)

Heh, was trying to quote the person above you, sorry!

To each his own. Hated SWTOR as well.

Originally posted by Valentina

lol at you trying to make your opinions sound like fact which is probably why you got flamed.

 

I personally feel like TERA is boring as hell. I can't stand it, and that's mostly because I've played SW:TOR. Unlike you, I feel like SW:TOR is the right direction for MMO's. They could do things better with it, sure but that's the case with any game, and mostly based on opinions and preferences rather than there being truly something wrong with the game. It feels like an MMO, it plays like an MMO, it's fluid and well polished for the most part for a brand new MMO built off a brand new engine from a company that's never done an MMO before. The quest system is vastly improved from what we're so used to, which is a drab and uncreative, pointless uphill trek rather than an enjoyable and engaging experience which SW:TOR provides for probably the first time in MMO history. I've seen people leave the game, and come back and say they can't play other games now thanks to that game so BioWare is clearly doing many things right. Considering they've got almost 2 million subscribers at this point, and yes that is accurate despite what you might be lead to believe, TERA won't come close to that, and should SW:TOR drop off over time, it's still a really good MMO compared to everything else out there right now. For it to launch with even one million subscribers after it's first month is ridiculously good, and hasn't been matched yet by any game, even WoW launched with 350k players, and stayed that way for the first year of it's release and even saw a drop off for a while. So all this "SWTOR IS BAD" crap can f*ck off til there's any real basis for that, I'm so over it.

TERA on the other hand provides a profoundly dull, and repetitive leveling experience with absolutely 0 feeling of involvement in anything going on in the game world, the animations are cool, the graphics are actually not AS good as they look in a screenshot, even maxed out, something about them look profoundly plastic and...Off.... It runs great for me, but it looks and feels like an old game. I'm tired of MMO's that present a pretty world to look at with virtually no real sense of being a world at all, whether that be presented in a decently in depth story (preferably for me) or otherwise. The combat is cool for 10 minutes, but really in the end all it does is make every encounter feel and look the same. Overall I think this game is going to fail as a subscription game in the U.S. and Europe within a couple months, and that's being liberal with my time allotment on this title.

I know I'm gonna get flamed by TERA fanboy's but if you think this game is going to be more successful than SW:TOR or any other major title in recent history or the near future I'm going to rofl at you in a few months when it's faring far worse than any of them.

I am actually LMAO right now, there are still Swtor fans? wierd how people can still play such a bad and bland game, Swtor has those similar quest, even worse its like a single player blocked off game? who the fuck likes that (no one) i wouldnt be surprised if it has less then 500 thousand subs. TERA is the direction of future mmo's, everyone dont listen to this idiot, unless you like single players with graphics less comfortable then wow, then feel free and play swtor, But if you want a quality game, real combat, real environment and real content, then come play TERA.

Originally posted by Valentina

lol at you trying to make your opinions sound like fact which is probably why you got flamed.

 

I personally feel like TERA is boring as hell. I can't stand it, and that's mostly because I've played SW:TOR. Unlike you, I feel like SW:TOR is the right direction for MMO's. They could do things better with it, sure but that's the case with any game, and mostly based on opinions and preferences rather than there being truly something wrong with the game. It feels like an MMO, it plays like an MMO, it's fluid and well polished for the most part for a brand new MMO built off a brand new engine from a company that's never done an MMO before. The quest system is vastly improved from what we're so used to, which is a drab and uncreative, pointless uphill trek rather than an enjoyable and engaging experience which SW:TOR provides for probably the first time in MMO history. I've seen people leave the game, and come back and say they can't play other games now thanks to that game so BioWare is clearly doing many things right. Considering they've got almost 2 million subscribers at this point, and yes that is accurate despite what you might be lead to believe, TERA won't come close to that, and should SW:TOR drop off over time, it's still a really good MMO compared to everything else out there right now. For it to launch with even one million subscribers after it's first month is ridiculously good, and hasn't been matched yet by any game, even WoW launched with 350k players, and stayed that way for the first year of it's release and even saw a drop off for a while. So all this "SWTOR IS BAD" crap can f*ck off til there's any real basis for that, I'm so over it.

TERA on the other hand provides a profoundly dull, and repetitive leveling experience with absolutely 0 feeling of involvement in anything going on in the game world, the animations are cool, the graphics are actually not AS good as they look in a screenshot, even maxed out, something about them look profoundly plastic and...Off.... It runs great for me, but it looks and feels like an old game. I'm tired of MMO's that present a pretty world to look at with virtually no real sense of being a world at all, whether that be presented in a decently in depth story (preferably for me) or otherwise. The combat is cool for 10 minutes, but really in the end all it does is make every encounter feel and look the same. Overall I think this game is going to fail as a subscription game in the U.S. and Europe within a couple months, and that's being liberal with my time allotment on this title.

I know I'm gonna get flamed by TERA fanboy's but if you think this game is going to be more successful than SW:TOR or any other major title in recent history or the near future I'm going to rofl at you in a few months when it's faring far worse than any of them.

 100-200 people in a zone/ channel max isnt a mmovhell swtor crashes with anything mass