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General Discussion  » Are people complaining about Diablo 3 because it doesnt feel like a mmo?

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  Axehilt

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4/21/12 10:20:10 PM#21
Originally posted by dubyahite
How is anyone able to judge the challenge that this game presents yet?

They have only allowed play to level 13 on normal difficulty. You have only seem a couple hours of the game so far.

I will wait to pass judgement on that aspect when I can play on nightmare mode or whatever on all of the content.


It's the very beginning of the easiest difficulty. Of freaking course it's going to be easy durr.

It's fair to criticize a game for forcing players to deal with too much easy gameplay before you reach a challenge.

I imagine I'm going to love D3 overall, but in D2 the crappiest part about the game was how incredibly easy things were prior to level 20 -- and then after level 20 there was barely any progression left over to experience (you'd get your endgame skills at 30 and then your character was basically stagnant.)

The best D2 experiences were the mods I played where early difficulty was amped up considerably.

  DJJazzy

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4/21/12 10:45:14 PM#22

Haven't really heard of that complaint. My biggest gripe is having to use battlenet and be online to play a single player game. 

  synn

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4/21/12 10:54:39 PM#23

the same way this game already has fanboys is the same way it has haters. TBH its usually early on when a game should hook you in and make you feel the need to continue on your journey. I personally don't plan on getting this game because that love i had for D2 just isn't there for D3.

  madazz

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4/21/12 11:56:42 PM#24
Originally posted by nomatics856

Because Diablo 3 is basically doing and is what diablo 2 did and was a online hack and slash where the fun was to down enemy and bosses for loot to trade with others

 

Thats all Diablo 2 was, the small small majority played for the quest and the gameplay, but even then that wasnt diablo 2`s most rewarding feature cause a majority of the people skipped acts and quest entirely just to go to certain bosses, I dont even remember once forming a group for act 3 in its entirety and pretty much act 2.

So I dont see how D3 can fail the diablo franchise when diablo 2 wasnt even all that great itsself. Just addicting.

Well its not an MMO... should be discussed in General Gaming in all actuality. D3 is a 4 player game.

  Gorilla

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4/22/12 12:08:12 AM#25

Most of the complaints I am reading are from Diablo I & II aficionados that do not feel that III is a worthy succesor. They seem pretty clear on what is an 'APRG' & what is a 'MMO'.

  User Deleted
4/22/12 12:16:14 AM#26

No they are complaining because the game is just not that good compared to the other 2 games.

  Skymourne

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4/22/12 12:25:03 AM#27

I understand where the older players are coming from with the stats complaint, and it's legitimate, however it will not stop me from playing it. i've been in the beta for two weeks now and the game is fun alone, and it's outstanding with friends.  People making arguments against artstyle, "it's not gothic", and the like are stating an opinion.  Purely visual.  Unless you're still playing on an ancient unit, the game play is smooth.  If you're playing on a decent unit, it's outstanding.  

I guess i'm glad i never went around forums or irc back when D2 was relevant, because i would probably have seen the same drab commentaries as i am seeing now flooding this site.  I'll walk away and be happy as hell to play this game with a lot of friends.  The game is good. Pure and simple ( opinion of course ).

  Banquetto

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4/22/12 12:26:02 AM#28


Originally posted by bishbosh
i played d3 beta this weekend and it was terrible. im judging it from a non mmorpg perspective (i was a big d2 fan back when blizzard actually cared about games ).
there is almost no choice in how you build your character. the game is way to easy and you cant even change your hotkeys. the game has also lost its gothic dark foreboding feel and the music  is crap compared to diablo 2 (d2 music was really awesome). i dont know why they went with cartoony graphics and painterly textures, it totally doesnt fit in a diablo game.


Oh, you just played it this weekend, did you?


Interesting coincidence that your impressions of it happened to 100% precisely match what you posted two weeks ago then: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/4887019#4887019


So what's the story? Pretending that you hadn't played it before? Or were you pretending that you'd played it two weeks ago when you hadn't? Or you never played it, and you're just trolling? Let's hear the truth, Bishbosh.

  Voiidiin

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4/22/12 12:43:46 AM#29

As others have said i feel the complete opposite, if i want a MMO i will play an MMO, making D3 simplistic and more like an MMO kinda defeats the purpose of wanting to play a game like DIABLO.

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  Suraknar

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4/22/12 12:49:37 AM#30

Diablo and Diablo 2 were single player games with multiplayer mode.

I do not see why anyone would expect Diablo 3 to be an MMO...it is not the same thing.

I personally was looking forward to it just for the sake of the continuation of the story that I enjoyed in Single player mode with Diablo 1 and 2, but this time around there won;t be an offline single player mode. And that turned me off and I decided not to buy it due to that.

I just got GW2 instead, if I am to be forced to play online I would rather play an MMO, my single player games I like em to be offline.

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  Unlight

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4/22/12 12:52:42 AM#31
Originally posted by atticusbc

now that you mention it, i'm complaining about it because it does feel like an mmo.

Yup.  Always online and what amounts to a P2W cash shop in the form of an RMAH.  Nothing like it's predecessors and not in a good way.  It sounds like they've even dumbed it down, following the trend in MMOs these days.  What a disappointment from a franchise that gave me so many hours of enjoyment in the past.

  Cathleen81

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4/22/12 1:27:07 AM#32

. I do understand it from mmorpg.com part since they get loads of hits etc with diablo 3 which is always good and more money from adds etc in the end.

  wrightstuf

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4/22/12 1:29:00 AM#33

no, most complain because vid game hating is the new "in" thing to do

  Aori

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4/22/12 1:33:32 AM#34
Originally posted by wrightstuf

no, most complain because vid game hating is the new "in" thing to do

For the most part it is the new IN thing. Bias, ignorant and misinformed opinions flood these forums daily.

  dubyahite

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4/22/12 6:52:04 AM#35

My observation is that people are complaining because they don't understand the new game systems (like how stat customization works now) and run to the forums to say that Blizzard dumbed the whole game down, when in fact they added new levels of depth. 

 

I keep seeing people say that there is no stat customization now, when it is far more customizable than it was in D2 through the new gem system.  

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  Konfess

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4/22/12 7:22:37 AM#36

Diablo 1 & 2 were never persistent worlds, but because of their chat channels there are MMOs with the addition of the RPG which is Diablo.  Diablo 3 is very different from D 1 & 2, but that is meant to be innovative rather than stagnation.  The art style and level design is clearly innovative and complementary to the original Diablos.  The loss of the Traditional gauntlet cursor was a mistake.  The full screen chat channels were the online power of Diablo 1 & 2. 

If they were smart they would have made a single IRC chat client that could launch all blizzard games, any of the Diablo's,  Starcrafts, or Warcrafts.  At the end of my time with Diablo 2 I spent more time in chat than I did in game.

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  Banaghran

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4/22/12 8:53:55 AM#37
Originally posted by Axehilt

I imagine I'm going to love D3 overall, but in D2 the crappiest part about the game was how incredibly easy things were prior to level 20 -- and then after level 20 there was barely any progression left over to experience (you'd get your endgame skills at 30 and then your character was basically stagnant.)

 

By this frame of reference, wow is stagnant from the point you get all the skills in your primary rotation, discounting the same amount of gear , challenges and tactics.

Dunno, kinda reminds me of that discussion i had with some bloke, where he claimed that "endgame" in D2 (probably completing hell difficulty) was not reachable by every class, citing a "fire sorceress" as a example...

Flame on!

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  Axehilt

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4/22/12 11:23:19 AM#38
Originally posted by Banaghran
Originally posted by Axehilt

I imagine I'm going to love D3 overall, but in D2 the crappiest part about the game was how incredibly easy things were prior to level 20 -- and then after level 20 there was barely any progression left over to experience (you'd get your endgame skills at 30 and then your character was basically stagnant.)

 

By this frame of reference, wow is stagnant from the point you get all the skills in your primary rotation, discounting the same amount of gear , challenges and tactics.

Dunno, kinda reminds me of that discussion i had with some bloke, where he claimed that "endgame" in D2 (probably completing hell difficulty) was not reachable by every class, citing a "fire sorceress" as a example...

Fair point.  I guess the reason it didn't get old as fast in WOW is you weren't immediately repeating the entire game's content at level ~24 (whereas you do do that in D2.)  It was probably the double-whammy of having to suffer through too much easy mode and having to repeat the content -- most games just let you choose the right challenge for yourself right out of the gate.

  Rivalen

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4/22/12 11:24:51 AM#39

The problem with Diablo 3 is that most gamers that loved Diablo 2 have grown up and tried different games.

Diablo 3 is too much like Diablo 2 to draw some gamers interest, that's all.

It will be an incredibly sucessfull game i'm sure.

  ShadowVlican

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4/22/12 5:16:25 PM#40

d3 is not an mmo

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