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4/21/12 11:38:18 AM#81
Originally posted by BigBadWolfe LOL it's not a raid it's a "public quest". When we talk about raid we talk about INSTANCED raids. The Enmasse marketing site was more honest than you and didn't called that public quest a "raid". If that's a raid for you then even GW2 is full of "raids"... So no it isn't and that's why it's called a marketing scam. You completely fell for it. But it's not Enmasse fault... they did it right: they even advertized "Daily quests for reputation" or "Bug fixes" like it was something new and exciting. Btw Tera doesn't have battlegrounds and raids at launch. Even Stwor and Rift had those.
Originally posted by BigBadWolfe I did the math. Simple as that you are just talking nonsense with no real proof You said GW1 is pricey at 65$... and proved you were wrong. It's 30€ on steam You said Tera is the most inexpensive AAA mmorpg around... and i proved you were wrong since 198$ > 55$
Originally posted by BigBadWolfe Yes because GW2 (like GW1) added content via patches for free but i guess you didn't know. Then there were the paid expansions. This is why it's B2P And by expansions i mean true "EXPANSIONS". New classes, tons of new skills and features, entire new continents.... Not just some fixes for an incomplete game at launch.
Where did i ever complained that there was only cosmetic sfuff in GW2 cash shop? i guess you didn't read carefully. On the contrary that's a good thing. But what you completely misunderstood is the GW2 cash shop. I's completely irrelevant and you're not forced to buy anything. You talked about "restrictions" when it's just more characters slots after the 5th and maybe more bag slots. You can even change servers and play wherever you want for free. Tera doesn't let you do this even with the cashshop.
Since you can't do math or maybe you missed it the first time i will repost it here 1 year of gameplay Tera 1 box (55€) + 1 free month + 11 sub fees (13€each) = 198€ Gw2 1 box (55€) + 12 free months = 55€ How does it make Tera cheaper is a complete mistery. Even if you take into consideration expansion in the next years the math doesn't change. Let's say for example that Gw2 will have a new expansion every year. It would be great but still it's impossible since Arenanet (or even Blizzard) can't make new continents, new classes, and so much new content in a single year. But let's assume they are superheroes and they manage it. 1 year of gameplay Tera 12 months = 156€ GW2 1 expansion = 55€
And that's it i guess
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4/21/12 11:41:14 AM#82
Originally posted by BigBadWolfe This in the same post where you claim you "can read". Who ever said GW2 was F2P? Besides... you know, wrong people? As for your argument, GW2 will be cheaper than any other AAA MMO, there's no use in denying it. They're not going to release content every few months for 50 bucks. no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled |
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4/21/12 11:41:40 AM#83
Originally posted by Eir_S Right and then in that case I have already paid for this elsewhere, no need to drop a $50 on it and $15/per. More of a challenge? The two of us have yet to die, I have a Priest, I have yet to use heal once. 10 levels in, going over to their forums to see if there is a reason to be a Priest or not. I'm wondering if these mmo's are beoming like 3D Diablo. Everything is becomming leave your brain at the door. Fine for some, yes. But I'm always trying to find advancement. |
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4/21/12 11:42:34 AM#84
Originally posted by afropuff420 At about what level do you get off the island? I'm 12 atm, and finding it hard to want to log back in, but I'm willing to keep trudging through the lowish levels to get to a bit more "meat" so to speak. |
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4/21/12 11:44:53 AM#85
Originally posted by Jayaris
Well... duh. You already have the answer to your question
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4/21/12 11:47:36 AM#86
Originally posted by HorrorScope Ah, well I guess they're trying to ease people into it, but I don't know if 10 full levels of hand holding is preferable to me, so I agree there that it would be frustrating. I just thought it was a nice touch to add bosses and things early on, an idea not unlike GW2's starting zone bosses (I don't know what Tera's entail yet), and again, those bosses don't seem likely to kill you either. I'm just saying, "at least they're there". It could have been like WoW...... 10 levels of questing with no bosses, and in today's post Cata, having mobs turned "neutral" and removing elites altogether. Hopefully I'm not 100% wrong, but from what I read about Tera, they did amp things up as far as BAMs go. I personally don't think I'll be playing Tera for some time, if at all, but you might be right. It's not thrusting the genre forward, but like I said, some people are happy with what they're getting. If advancement is what you seek, may you find it in one of the upcoming games. The important thing to me is that times change and we see less WoW mechanics in 2012 and beyond. no GW2 won't kill WoW, but it's time to move on and quit worrying about those people still playing it. - eyelolled |
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4/21/12 11:53:21 AM#87
I have to admit I starred at a grey screen for a minute when Vekas killed me for the first time. "what in the...". Granted I was a level or two below him but I noticed that if I didn't get out of the way or was typing and he landed in me it took over 1/3 of my life away heh. I like that "boss" fights, even righ away at least make you try now since a crystal breaks every time.
In debating how TERA compares to other MMOs, which is completely natural, a few things may need to be kept in mind. First, is there an Asian bias? Let's be honest. There have been some craptacular games (in our opinion) to come out if the east BUT that does nit mean they all are. Being able to judge them separately without a knee-jerk reaction would be nice. Second, is no game going to be good right now because it's not "your" game coming out. Again, natural reaction but if this changes how you feel about a game it's not really giving an opinion of it just what it isn't compared to "your" game (e.g. Any game that is not GW2 is "standard" and offers "nothing new"). What is being glossed over with TERA is that it's a total package. They have worked really hard to get a lot of features in one title and it is indeed very polished. Just not worth my time anymore. |
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4/21/12 1:19:57 PM#88
One thing I have not seen mentioned in here is that GW2 will have different starting areas for each race. IMO that is HUGE!! Meaning each race you start will be a complete new story with different quests AND a different environment. Whereas in Tera, no matter what class or race you start, you starting in the same damn Noob Island and go through the exact same quest line. This was one thing I did like about WoW. If I did not like the starting area of Gnomes I could find my way to the starting area of the Humans. Choices!! This does make a difference in that it makes it look as if the devs from GW2 put a bit more time into developing the world and the story rather than make a game as quick as possible to start making some money. The first major city I came across in Tera looks a far cry from what I have seen from GW2. For the average game player this is important when making decisions on where you are going to place your hard earned money. I want to play a game where someone put their heart and soul into the game and give me options as to where am I going to start playing and what story do I want to follow....
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4/21/12 1:30:16 PM#89
It might not have bern mentioned because this is not the GW2 forums lol. There are indeed cities for each race in TERA. They chose to not to waste space segmenting land for separate starting area that are shed a day into the game.
Unless you have travelled through the areas of TERA, you really have no basis for your claims at the devs intent. Just not worth my time anymore. |
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4/21/12 1:31:47 PM#90
Originally posted by Odinthedark1 He can talk all he wants. I did the same thing. I can't stand hand holding quest grinders any more. I played up until level 7-8 and uninstalled it. It's quite literally exactly what I've been playing since I left DAoC, it just looks a little different and the graphics have gotten better. How long can you chase that carrot in front of you? Personally, I'm not a dog and it's not fun any more.
All they did was allow you to dodge and aim, which has been in MMO's before.. assuming you've actually been playing MMO's longer than a couple years. You don't even have to go far to get some of those mechanics, AOC anyone?
When you've been playing MMO's for 15 years, you are generally able to spot crap before most other people. It is what it is. If you like it, great! Don't tell other people what to like. |
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4/21/12 1:36:11 PM#91
Originally posted by Eir_S That's true, I was speaking on my behalf, joining in on the convo. Not trying to overstate what WE ALL HAVE TO DO! or anything like that. So that cool. I would also say I was impressed with performance in the Prolouge, there had to be several hundred people in there at once (testing spells even) and sure I was getting15-20 fps, but they have it programmed where you don't feel it in the controls. While that other game where the first game of theirs I loved, in their last beta, with a lot less players in the immediate area, it was a slideshow and it did effect my control, it was a mess when even 25-30 players were all battleing together. That is why I think it still has a ways to go, or it won't be for me. That is A1 to what I'm paying attention to there. |
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4/21/12 1:37:52 PM#92
Considering all the JSON Parse Errors folks are getting for trying to log in, there's a lot of folks who can't even try out this (soon to be failure) game. I was contemplating pre-ordering, but since I can't even log in to try the open beta, forget it. I make spreadsheets at work - I don't want to make them for the games I play. |
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4/21/12 1:38:34 PM#93
Originally posted by DAS1337 I can't stand hand holding quest grinders any more. I played up until level 7-8 and uninstalled it. It's quite literally exactly what I've been playing since I left DAoC, it just looks a little different and the graphics have gotten better. How long can you chase that carrot in front of you? Personally, I'm not a dog and it's not fun any more. That simply put is the angle I come from on any mmo, I don't care name or who, that doesn't even register. I am no fanboy, nor feel I'm a hater. I have more respect for myself, then doing drivel. I want something new, but it has to really start advancing. DDO2 needs to happen, with open worlds added and some updating. |
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4/21/12 2:46:53 PM#94
Originally posted by niceguy3978 Nothing really changes to be honest. I hit 22 and I was still running from quest hub to quest hub killing x of x mobs. The game lost me today because it feels so similar for so long. I need variation in questing, locales, and other game mechanics. This one seems to give you everything practically by level 11. I have no incentive for reaching max level.  |
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4/21/12 3:08:15 PM#95
Well friends, for me Tera is "The Game", the combat aspect of the game, the fluid character controls and the vivid animation hooked me so badly to this game. Now drop some friends along the way and voila you are starting to cook something that called FUN. And honestly i havn't had that much fun in an MMORPG game since L2. Sure Tera has it's flaws, like anything else in life, but i am not gonna drop it just because of those flaws, i am gonna stand my ground and try to make it better. For the ones that will populate this awesome world, hope you won't be on the wrong edge of my weapon ;) |
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4/21/12 4:15:20 PM#96
So the question of the day and the week and month is why the hell are you people on Tera forum instead of GW2 forum? Omfg we get it you don't like it game, great, why don't you go post on a game you do like instead of trying to turn every Tera fan away from the game? Everyone has what they like, let them try it for themselve see if they like or not. If you don't like it great, hope you find something you do no reason to even stay here. |
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4/21/12 4:19:05 PM#97
Originally posted by yowave If my gf had the option to create a female character with actual clothes / armor on... we might have given it a try. But hence, this just another Asian game with oversexualised female characters and a teenage girl race for the pedofiles. Thanks but no thanks. Was an instant turn-off for us. |
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4/21/12 4:23:12 PM#98
Originally posted by JeroKane What dictates what are "actual clothes/armor" in a fantasy game? L2P TERA combat: http://youtu.be/k_ZTX31fGtk |
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4/21/12 4:27:57 PM#99
Originally posted by Himemiya When you look at EverQuest 2, LOTRO, DDO, WoW, etc... Western developed games. Then look at Aion, TERA and other Asian titles. (FF being the sole exception). I think you darn well know where I'm getting at. Not to mention as to why there have to be a race included that obviously appeals to sicko's and pedofiles. There is actually a ton of negative press going on about TERA regarding exactly this. |
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4/21/12 4:31:10 PM#100
I played 30 minutes of the beta and the controls for the game irritate me bigtime, swapping between modes. I don't like controllers but prefer keyboard so would take a while to get used to. I do love the graphics in the game though but as I found things irrating from first go is not a good start I will hold off on purchasing. |
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