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  xenpt

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OP  4/20/12 2:09:03 PM#1

So im thinking of buying an SDD Disk but i dunno much about them so can anyone tell me a lil info and point me to a direction to buy from a brand i saw this top on the internet.

 

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  Quizzical

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4/20/12 2:32:58 PM#2

The biggest SSD vendors are probably Intel, OCZ, Samsung, and Crucial, not necessarily in that order.  As for "best", that could mean a lot of different things.

  Archeangel

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4/20/12 2:37:21 PM#3

I too have been thinking on this.  After doing a lot of research though I have surmised that 90% of the SSD's on the market seem to fail within the first year and a half.   I reinstall my OS about that often, but i am not sure if it's worth having to buy a new OS disk every year.   In fact i read a lot of reviews on Newegg stating that several of the drives failed within the first 3 months.  I would be very interested to know from a gamer standpoint if it is worth the effort and frustration i keep hearing about to do this.

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  Quizzical

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4/20/12 2:44:42 PM#4
Originally posted by Archeangel

I too have been thinking on this.  After doing a lot of research though I have surmised that 90% of the SSD's on the market seem to fail within the first year and a half.   I reinstall my OS about that often, but i am not sure if it's worth having to buy a new OS disk every year.   In fact i read a lot of reviews on Newegg stating that several of the drives failed within the first 3 months.  I would be very interested to know from a gamer standpoint if it is worth the effort and frustration i keep hearing about to do this.

Nonsense.  We don't have long-term data on SSDs, but according to broader statistics, the six month failure rate is about 2%-3%--including ones that are dead on arrival.  And we don't have any reason to believe that SSDs become more failure-prone as time passes, as least within the first few years.

What happens is that if 50 SSDs are sold, one fails, and one works fine but has an idiot user who is doing something else wrong and thinks the SSD has failed, guess which two people are motivated to write a review of that particular SSD.

  xenpt

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OP  4/20/12 2:45:14 PM#5
Originally posted by Archeangel

I too have been thinking on this.  After doing a lot of research though I have surmised that 90% of the SSD's on the market seem to fail within the first year and a half.   I reinstall my OS about that often, but i am not sure if it's worth having to buy a new OS disk every year.   In fact i read a lot of reviews on Newegg stating that several of the drives failed within the first 3 months.  I would be very interested to know from a gamer standpoint if it is worth the effort and frustration i keep hearing about to do this.

that would suck if that´s true,  buying a sdd disk for 2 years in 2 years and some don´t even last 3 months ? WTH LOL

  Vorthanion

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4/20/12 2:46:37 PM#6

Many SSDs have an issue with bluescreens and various odd behaviors.  From what I can tell, Intel has a reputation of having the fewest problems and the best compatibility rate on the market.  I have two intel 520 series SSDs and in all the time I've had them, I've only had a single blue screen, which could have resulted from the game I was playing and not the SSD itself and no odd behaviors at all.  So far, they have been just as solid and reliable as my past Western Digital Raptors and Velociraptors.

Take that as you will.  Some people swear by OCZ and Corsair, but I've seen an awful lot of complaints about blue screens with these drives as well.  When I bought my drives, I did a lot of research not only on the technical specs of each offering, but I also perused several different sites, such as NewEgg and Tom's Hardware, BestBuy and so forth, to get feedback from users on their experiences with the different brands.  I found very few complaints about Intel drives in comparison to the others.  It certainly doesn't qualify as definite proof, but I'll take anecdotal evidence over blind faith anyday.

  xenpt

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OP  4/20/12 2:48:29 PM#7
Originally posted by Vorthanion

Many SSDs have an issue with bluescreens and various odd behaviors.  From what I can tell, Intel has a reputation of having the fewest problems and the best compatibility rate on the market.  I have two intel 520 series SSDs and in all the time I've had them, I've only had a single blue screen, which could have resulted from the game I was playing and not the SSD itself and no odd behaviors at all.  So far, they have been just as solid and reliable as my past Western Digital Raptors and Velociraptors.

Take that as you will.  Some people swear by OCZ and Corsair, but I've seen an awful lot of complaints about blue screens with these drives as well.  When I bought my drives, I did a lot of research not only on the technical specs of each offering, but I also presued several different sites, such as NewEgg and Tom's Hardware, BestBuy and so forth, to get feedback from users on their experiences with the different brands.  I found very few complaints about Intel drives in comparison to the others.  It certainly doesn't qualify as definite proof, but I'll take anecdotal evidence over blind faith anyday.

Thank you,  i was thinking of buying intel because of my processor  that is also from Intel.

  Archeangel

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4/20/12 2:50:57 PM#8
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by Archeangel

I too have been thinking on this.  After doing a lot of research though I have surmised that 90% of the SSD's on the market seem to fail within the first year and a half.   I reinstall my OS about that often, but i am not sure if it's worth having to buy a new OS disk every year.   In fact i read a lot of reviews on Newegg stating that several of the drives failed within the first 3 months.  I would be very interested to know from a gamer standpoint if it is worth the effort and frustration i keep hearing about to do this.

Nonsense.  We don't have long-term data on SSDs, but according to broader statistics, the six month failure rate is about 2%-3%--including ones that are dead on arrival.  And we don't have any reason to believe that SSDs become more failure-prone as time passes, as least within the first few years.

What happens is that if 50 SSDs are sold, one fails, and one works fine but has an idiot user who is doing something else wrong and thinks the SSD has failed, guess which two people are motivated to write a review of that particular SSD.

You may be right there.  I don't know exactly how many of these users are as technologically inclined as I am.  I am just a bit worried about dishing out 200 bucks for a disk that may only last a couple months.  That is all i am saying.  I still have yet to hear if anyone actually thinks SSD's are worth it as a gamer.  Yeah booting my computer in 12 seconds is great, but how much does it increase performance in a game?

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  Quizzical

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4/20/12 2:51:35 PM#9

Second generation SandForce drives had a blue screen glitch that affected less than 1% of users.  It wasn't just the SSD, but was a combination of how a bunch of things interacted.  It's at least partially fixed now, and may or may not be entirely fixed.

The Crucial M4 has a blue screen glitch that doesn't kick in until over 5000 hours of use.  That's completely fixable with a firmware update, and the more recent such drives already have the firmware update installed when you buy it.

But other than those, SSDs, don't have blue screen problems.  And even those aren't widespread enough to worry that if you get an SSD it's going to cause blue screens on you.

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4/20/12 2:52:51 PM#10
Originally posted by xenpt

Thank you,  i was thinking of buying intel because of my processor  that is also from Intel.

Intel's processor division has nothing to do with their SSD division.  You wouldn't seek out Intel graphics just because you like an Intel processor, would you?

The problem with Intel SSDs is that you can usually get something equivalent from another brand for perhaps 20% or 30% cheaper.  Intel charges more, figuring that people will pay it because they're Intel.

  xenpt

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OP  4/20/12 2:53:39 PM#11
Originally posted by Quizzical

Second generation SandForce drives had a blue screen glitch that affected less than 1% of users.  It wasn't just the SSD, but was a combination of how a bunch of things interacted.  It's at least partially fixed now, and may or may not be entirely fixed.

The Crucial M4 has a blue screen glitch that doesn't kick in until over 5000 hours of use.  That's completely fixable with a firmware update, and the more recent such drives already have the firmware update installed when you buy it.

But other than those, SSDs, don't have blue screen problems.  And even those aren't widespread enough to worry that if you get an SSD it's going to cause blue screens on you.

What if i don´t want blue screens lol

  Quizzical

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4/20/12 2:57:05 PM#12

If you're worried about unexpected problems, then buy SSDs that launched at least several months ago, so that the problems have already been found and fixed.  If you're really paranoid, you might also want to avoid second generation SandForce drives.

But if avoiding blue screens is your top priority, then you should probably focus more on your power supply than your SSD.  And also be careful to make sure that your video drivers are installed properly, and that you don't buy new video cards until they have mature drivers.

  xenpt

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OP  4/20/12 2:59:01 PM#13
Originally posted by Quizzical

If you're worried about unexpected problems, then buy SSDs that launched at least several months ago, so that the problems have already been found and fixed.  If you're really paranoid, you might also want to avoid second generation SandForce drives.

But if avoiding blue screens is your top priority, then you should probably focus more on your power supply than your SSD.  And also be careful to make sure that your video drivers are installed properly, and that you don't buy new video cards until they have mature drivers.

my power suplly is fine is a nox modular 800w

  Vorthanion

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4/20/12 3:00:48 PM#14
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by xenpt

Thank you,  i was thinking of buying intel because of my processor  that is also from Intel.

Intel's processor division has nothing to do with their SSD division.  You wouldn't seek out Intel graphics just because you like an Intel processor, would you?

The problem with Intel SSDs is that you can usually get something equivalent from another brand for perhaps 20% or 30% cheaper.  Intel charges more, figuring that people will pay it because they're Intel.

I guess it depends on where you buy it.  I got mine for virtually the same price as the OCZ and Corsair offerings at the time, in the 240 GB size.  Personally, I'm willing to pay 10 to 20 dollars more for something that will give me peace of mind.  It's certainly why I continue to buy Intel processors instead of the AMD offering which are usually significanty cheaper.  It's also why I always went with Western Digital over others like Seagate for my hard drives.  Sometimes, the slightly higher price and the name brand actually do make a difference.

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4/20/12 3:00:54 PM#15
Originally posted by Archeangel

You may be right there.  I don't know exactly how many of these users are as technologically inclined as I am.  I am just a bit worried about dishing out 200 bucks for a disk that may only last a couple months.  That is all i am saying.  I still have yet to hear if anyone actually thinks SSD's are worth it as a gamer.  Yeah booting my computer in 12 seconds is great, but how much does it increase performance in a game?

How much would it be worth to you if all loading loading screens had their duration reduced by 2/3?  How much is it worth to you to eliminate hitching in games that aren't coded well enough to cover up slow hard drive accesses?  How much is it worth to you to not have to sit there and wait every time you want the computer to do some little thing?  How much is it worth to have things work the way that you intuitively think they ought to, as opposed to eventually getting around to doing what you asked?

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If you're worried about failure rates, then check the warranty length.  Most seem to have a warranty of 2-3 years, and some go longer than that.

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4/20/12 3:02:24 PM#16

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  stragen001

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4/20/12 3:02:49 PM#17

I was researching SSDs a little while back - decided not to buy one in the end, but one of the manufacturers is offering quite a nice warranty of 5 years or so on their SSDs. Obviously that doesnt help you if you dont back up and the disc fails, but it does mean that you will get a free replacment.

Also, companies with longer warranties on their products tend to be the ones that have the most trust in them, so its a good measuring stick for reliability

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  Quizzical

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4/20/12 3:04:32 PM#18
Originally posted by xenpt

my power suplly is fine is a nox modular 800w

If that's all you know about your power supply, then you definitely need to be a lot more worried about your power supply than an SSD.  How's the voltage regulation?  How about ripple suppression?  Transient overshoot?

  shuvit82

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4/20/12 3:05:47 PM#19

I'm using OCZ, Intel and Kingston SSDnow drives, and haven't had a problem with any of them. May have been good luck, but I've been happy with all three brands.

  Benthon

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4/20/12 3:06:00 PM#20

SSD's are a great investment. It's something that seemed like a difficult thing to justify buying, but after going to one I just can't stand non-SSD computers. It really is noticeable.

As far as what to buy, I'd recommend a Crucial M4. I've owned quite a few SSD's since my first buy, and it's probably the one I've been most satisfied with.

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