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4/18/12 11:18:23 AM#21
The problem is that if you suck, in pve, I can kick you from my group. If you suck, in pvp, I cant server kick you.
That is why this would be a bad idea. Teenturds will ruin pvp for some servers, there's no way around it. Just like in FPS, have you ever played against a team and go 15-0 ... winning 5 games in a row, but however, usually have a 7-7 and winning only 3/5 if you're lucky? You didnt magically become good for those 5 games, the others just sucked. Same happens in MMOs. Why would people have to pay for the stupidity of others? Dont fully understand this, look up the reddit server and join it. Revel in your losses. |
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4/18/12 11:19:30 AM#22
Welcome to why everyone cannot be a game designer.
That idea is terrible.
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4/18/12 11:21:42 AM#23
WvWvW is constantly happening with only a few minutes to caculate the points so the next match up are ready to go. What that means is while you just won this match, by the time you invaded the loser servers, you just lost your next W v W match up. And since this is a 3 server battle, which server are you invading. I don't think they even tell you who you are fighting against. Therefore its not a mechanice that fits the GW2 W v W v W
Life is a Maze, so make sure you bring your GPS incase you get lost in it. |
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4/18/12 11:27:42 AM#24
Ya, its sounds cool but it aint gonna happen. It goes against anets goals for GW2. |
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4/18/12 11:32:13 AM#25
GW2 is built around the idea of cooperation and players banding together. Something like what the OP is talking about would be counter to the game's central concept. |
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4/18/12 11:46:15 AM#26
Originally posted by Deathenger Dumb idea. While it may have worked for that game, creating a situation where you force people that want to PvE and only PvE are attacked and forced to PvP is always a bad idea. |
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4/18/12 12:17:17 PM#27
Forced PvP does not work on a game designed around PvP/PvE separation. If they designed it your way 2-3 years ago, I would be all for it. But it makes no sense now. This thread reminds of the "adding sandbox elements to SWTOR" thread. It just doesn't make sense to do it when the game has already been designed and implemented a certain way. You are better off just looking for the game that gives you what you want from the start! Enter a whole new realm of challenge and adventure. |
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4/18/12 12:45:25 PM#28
It'd be cool if you could port to one of the servers that lost and gank the peasants. All joking aside I think you could implement this while keeping everyone happy. From what I hear theres a cap on WvWvW (Admitally I don't know much of the concept, if someone could enlighten me it would be great) So if you don't get in you can't world pvp, correct? So why don't we just make two sets of servers. Just label the the servers that can do it as <pvp> servers and the ones that would not allow this as <pve> servers. (All names subject to change :D)
So if you never want to pvp aside from WvWvW join the pve server. If you didn't get into WvWvW roll on a pvp server and just port to the realm you just slaughtered and do it some more, wether it be in a group or solo. If you lost then you don't deserve anything. Boom everyones happy, except the losers. Yes I played SWTOR. |
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4/18/12 12:47:52 PM#29
Originally posted by daydreamerxx +1, QFT MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop). |
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4/18/12 1:13:10 PM#30
Awesome idea OP!! Loot and pilage the enemy server - Love it!!! Hide your women and small furry animals were coming for ya!!! |
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4/18/12 1:17:38 PM#31
What the **** is up with everyone and their effing mother wanting to turn GW2 into this horrible gankfest today.
GW2 IS NOT NOR WILL IT EVER HAVE ANY FORM OF GRIEFING. THE PVE WORLD AND THE PVP WORLDS ARE SPLIT FOR A REASON.
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4/18/12 8:20:05 PM#32
Originally posted by Deathenger This doesn't sound interesting in the least. Again, the problem with PVP is that it iteerupts other people's fun with your version of fun. For someone who isn't even remotely interested in pvp, this outcome would be quite disruptive. |
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4/18/12 8:24:01 PM#33
Originally posted by wowfan1996 +1 So true... There's a very big difference between something sounding fun, and something actually being a good idea / good design. There's a reason a lot of really cool sounding ideas get thrown out. They usually don't work the way you think they should. |
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Lord.Bachus
Elite Member
Joined: 5/14/07
I believe in life before death... So dont forget to enjoy it while you still can. |
4/19/12 12:22:27 PM#34
At the end of every 2 week battle there could be a window of 12 hours that allows the winning server to invade the loosing server. After those 12 hours noboddy can get intoo the other server anymore, people that die return back to their own server. Players on a hostile server are both hostile to NPC and players. This would make things more hardcore topugh then GW2 intends to be. So it will never happen.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) |
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4/19/12 12:25:34 PM#35
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus Would it not be humiliating enough to lose in wvw, that you have to invade the losing server and "rape" them? Don't get me wrong, I'm all about crushing the opposition. Only issue I would have with invading another server would be that there are many players who don't care much for pvp/wvw and just want to do pve. Though I myself am a pvp/wvw player, I would not want to take away the pve gaming from those who just want to do pve (do unto others as you would have them do unto you). |
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4/19/12 12:39:18 PM#36
Originally posted by Unlight ^this. Makes no sense. This just feeds the griefing trolls. |
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JoeyMMO
Apprentice Member
Joined: 10/09/11
To busy playing GW2 to post much around here... *shrug* |
4/19/12 1:00:53 PM#37
Originally posted by Deathenger Why not have the winning server, which is clearly the stronger party, be invaded by the other two then? Why would griefing be cool? The servers that wins gets the bragging rights and also get to stop on the others taking away more of their fun. This idea is so uncool it's really sad. |
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4/19/12 1:04:15 PM#38
Despite my love for PVP and its awesomeness. I agree with Anets choice to spereate PVE from PVP. And like others said. Why would the winning server have the chance to 'gloat' and punish people who probably werent even apart of the PvP? Makes no sense. |
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4/19/12 1:05:24 PM#39
Originally posted by Deathenger That would be awesome. +1 /signed Are you a Pavlovian Fish Biscuit Addict? Get Help Now! |
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4/19/12 1:11:39 PM#40
Originally posted by DarkPony Daddy. two d's. Hopefully intentional mispelling in your siggy. Love them, in any case. The Deep Web is sca-ry. |
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