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  Vorthanion

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4/19/12 10:28:50 AM#641

You bet.  Currently playing one right now, EQ Live.

 

Every new game coming out has PvP for the same reason that most if not all have raiding.  The vocal minorities are exactly that, very vocal and the developers react to it because many of them themselves are raiders and PvPers.  Also, PvP, like raiding, is easier to work with as an end game content regurgitator.  Even though both are niche, they both dominate the MMO end game market.  It's disgusting.

  LeegOfChldrn

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4/19/12 11:54:36 AM#642
Originally posted by Ramonski7

PvP in MMos (in it's current state )is nothing more than an attempt for delinquents and unskilled FPS players to compare their achievements against themselves in a RPG setting and attempt to use those merits to justify their hardcore status..... They do this because they KNOW they don't have enough skill to accomplish anything when they play actual FPSs.

 

Either that or it's FPS players that feel the need to justify their inner nerd for MMOs by telling their friends that PvPing in MMOs is actually a thing of importance when it really isn't in a MMO.

 

But to answer your question, I don't think I would enjoy a PvE only game for too long because it limits the ability to fully commit yourself in a living breathing world and the dangers of coming up on devious players (not to be confused with asshats with an attitude).

 

Until the ego, self-centered PvPer becomes a minority to the real mentally stable PvPers. I'll take limited PvP servers like those found in WoW. To me it was the perfect balance for PvE and PvP.

I'd say your wrong, only because I believe the good FPS players probably ARE the good MMORPG players.

 

Unless I'm an exception to the rule, I am always on the top of the end of matches no matter if I'm playing FPS, MMORPG, RTS, MOBA, whatever.

I believe the reason I top charts in MMORPG's is the same reason I top charts in FPS games and MOBA games: Gaming Experience. I know how to exploit the metagame in any game I play. I know how to read information, guides, tips. I know how to figure out what REALLY is the best, and why. I'm also fast and skilled (intelligent?) so I'm sure that helps.

 

Those who suck at FPS games probably suck at MMORPG's too. Those who rule at MMORPG's are probably NOT horrible FPS players.

  friendface

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4/19/12 11:57:47 AM#643

I voted NO.

PVP is the primary reason I've played every MMO I've ever subbed to. Why? Because people think, even if only a little, and therefore are more challenging and adaptive than any scripted PVE encounter could ever hope to be.

  Caldrin

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4/19/12 12:02:14 PM#644

No PVP is a major part of an MMORPG for me, ever since EQ and UO  i have enjoyed PVP..

its got to be proper PVP with a reason and open world as well is always better... none fo the battleground nistant crap you get in wow and GW2...

 

 

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  UtukuMoon

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4/19/12 12:06:58 PM#645
I do play a MMO that has no PvP at the moment.It used to have FFA PvP but it no longer has those servers.Vanguard is a giant when it comes to PVE.

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  teakbois

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4/19/12 12:07:16 PM#646

PvP, in every single game that triesto balance the two, has a negative effect on PvE.  

ALso, the PvP crowd has a much large % of asshats.

 

So, purer PvE and less asshattery is a win-win

  teakbois

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4/19/12 12:08:50 PM#647
Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn
Originally posted by Ramonski7

PvP in MMos (in it's current state )is nothing more than an attempt for delinquents and unskilled FPS players to compare their achievements against themselves in a RPG setting and attempt to use those merits to justify their hardcore status..... They do this because they KNOW they don't have enough skill to accomplish anything when they play actual FPSs.

 

Either that or it's FPS players that feel the need to justify their inner nerd for MMOs by telling their friends that PvPing in MMOs is actually a thing of importance when it really isn't in a MMO.

 

But to answer your question, I don't think I would enjoy a PvE only game for too long because it limits the ability to fully commit yourself in a living breathing world and the dangers of coming up on devious players (not to be confused with asshats with an attitude).

 

Until the ego, self-centered PvPer becomes a minority to the real mentally stable PvPers. I'll take limited PvP servers like those found in WoW. To me it was the perfect balance for PvE and PvP.

I'd say your wrong, only because I believe the good FPS players probably ARE the good MMORPG players.

 

Unless I'm an exception to the rule, I am always on the top of the end of matches no matter if I'm playing FPS, MMORPG, RTS, MOBA, whatever.

I believe the reason I top charts in MMORPG's is the same reason I top charts in FPS games and MOBA games: Gaming Experience. I know how to exploit the metagame in any game I play. I know how to read information, guides, tips. I know how to figure out what REALLY is the best, and why. I'm also fast and skilled (intelligent?) so I'm sure that helps.

 

 

and modest too

  Dmyankee

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4/19/12 12:09:01 PM#648

yes, pvp always skews the PVE  ...


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  pierth

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4/19/12 12:11:29 PM#649

Voted yes, I try to stay away from MMOs that even include PvP.

  LeegOfChldrn

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Joined: 10/11/11
Posts: 369

4/19/12 12:17:34 PM#650
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn
Originally posted by Ramonski7

PvP in MMos (in it's current state )is nothing more than an attempt for delinquents and unskilled FPS players to compare their achievements against themselves in a RPG setting and attempt to use those merits to justify their hardcore status..... They do this because they KNOW they don't have enough skill to accomplish anything when they play actual FPSs.

 

Either that or it's FPS players that feel the need to justify their inner nerd for MMOs by telling their friends that PvPing in MMOs is actually a thing of importance when it really isn't in a MMO.

 

But to answer your question, I don't think I would enjoy a PvE only game for too long because it limits the ability to fully commit yourself in a living breathing world and the dangers of coming up on devious players (not to be confused with asshats with an attitude).

 

Until the ego, self-centered PvPer becomes a minority to the real mentally stable PvPers. I'll take limited PvP servers like those found in WoW. To me it was the perfect balance for PvE and PvP.

I'd say your wrong, only because I believe the good FPS players probably ARE the good MMORPG players.

 

Unless I'm an exception to the rule, I am always on the top of the end of matches no matter if I'm playing FPS, MMORPG, RTS, MOBA, whatever.

I believe the reason I top charts in MMORPG's is the same reason I top charts in FPS games and MOBA games: Gaming Experience. I know how to exploit the metagame in any game I play. I know how to read information, guides, tips. I know how to figure out what REALLY is the best, and why. I'm also fast and skilled (intelligent?) so I'm sure that helps.

 

 

and modest too

The facts were very relevant to the topic. Modesty doesn't exclude speaking the truth when the topic warrants it. If someone says a fact, what's it to you? Does it offend you that I am good at video games or slept through college not paying attention with better test scores than those who studied ridiculously hard? Does it make you feel bad?

 

I always think it's funny when people get offended that others talk about the fact they're very good at video games, they're smart, etc.

I apologize if it offends you, but yes...I am very intelligent. That's part of the reason I have so much frustration in my life and find it very difficult to find friends I actually enjoy talking to. It's not all roses you know. There is an endless amount of disappointment with society (especially the more educated you become) and a ridiculous amount of boredom that comes from the lack of challenge in some areas. Not everyone is well educated, open minded, and not hyper-sensitive when others are prosperous. It's not easy to have an interesting conversation when other people seem to have a hard time grasping basic concepts or simple facts.

Sometimes I wish I were not, simply for the fact people like you wouldn't make me facepalm constantly, making myself think every post, "...and why are you still posting on these forums?" Fortunately I stay for those rare posters who speak rationally, don't attempt to troll people, and are mature enough to realize cracking a joke every 10 seconds doesn't make you as witty as you may think while smirking in a false sense of forum victory.

 

Of course, it always helps to add people to my ignore list :)

  Cod_Eye

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Joined: 9/04/09
Posts: 1028

4/19/12 12:27:46 PM#651

Yes I would, but only if it forced or encouraged grouping.  If I only need to solo my way through a PvE MMO then I just aswel just buy a single player game.

I think its why I still hold a candle for FFXI, If you didnt play ball and behaved like an asshat like some do in other MMO's then you wasnt going to get very far.

  Konfess

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4/19/12 12:43:26 PM#652

I hate to admit this but my mmo play style is mostly solo based crafting.  I enjoy equipping my alts in the best crafted gear possible, then I seek out the best PvE gear from quest and mob drops.  I luved the PvP in the original Planetside.  I have no problem with instanced Battlegrounds (PvP), except the exclusionary practice of gear ranking. 

I am starting to wonder if those who prefer Open World PvP mainly for unwilling, under-equipped, PvE engaged opponents are in fact suffering from a Antisocial Personality Disorder.  I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice, only my honest concern.

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  thorwood

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4/19/12 12:56:52 PM#653

I would play a pure PvE game with no PvP.

I would not play a PvP game where PvP is non-consentual. 

I will play a PvE game that has consentual PvP as I can choose to play  it as a PvE game. By consentual PvP, I mean PvP is restricted to battlegrounds or players can join open world pvp if they chose to flag themselves for PvP.

  TruthXHurts

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4/19/12 12:58:23 PM#654

I would not play an MMO without pvp. I will not even play a MMO these days that does not have open world PVP. I see no point in paying a monthly fee to play arena deathmatches.

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  Dragonantis

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4/19/12 1:03:49 PM#655

I think it would be nice for some, but everyone wants some PVP sometime, so a game without any would cause players to go elsewhere for it.

  apocoluster

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4/19/12 1:08:27 PM#656

  Yep...if I want to PVP i play 100% pvp games...i dont like the hybrid stuff...Focus is the Key to my wallet

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  Amjoco

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4/19/12 1:10:43 PM#657

Playing Vanguard Saga of Heroes right now!  It's fun and I don't miss the PvP too much. Perhaps when it goes F2P they will open a pvp server back up so I can be stabbed in the back...oh the good ole' days

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  Loser60

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4/19/12 1:11:33 PM#658

If it would be really good - yes, otherwise - no.

  Lowfer69

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4/19/12 1:11:45 PM#659

Yes I would. There have been more than a few games that PvP balancing has ruined the classes. Plus I'm just not into PvP if I want to frag or gank I just play BF3 or CoD or something.

  Vorthanion

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Joined: 7/02/11
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4/19/12 4:11:01 PM#660
Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn
Originally posted by teakbois
Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn
Originally posted by Ramonski7

PvP in MMos (in it's current state )is nothing more than an attempt for delinquents and unskilled FPS players to compare their achievements against themselves in a RPG setting and attempt to use those merits to justify their hardcore status..... They do this because they KNOW they don't have enough skill to accomplish anything when they play actual FPSs.

 

Either that or it's FPS players that feel the need to justify their inner nerd for MMOs by telling their friends that PvPing in MMOs is actually a thing of importance when it really isn't in a MMO.

 

But to answer your question, I don't think I would enjoy a PvE only game for too long because it limits the ability to fully commit yourself in a living breathing world and the dangers of coming up on devious players (not to be confused with asshats with an attitude).

 

Until the ego, self-centered PvPer becomes a minority to the real mentally stable PvPers. I'll take limited PvP servers like those found in WoW. To me it was the perfect balance for PvE and PvP.

I'd say your wrong, only because I believe the good FPS players probably ARE the good MMORPG players.

 

Unless I'm an exception to the rule, I am always on the top of the end of matches no matter if I'm playing FPS, MMORPG, RTS, MOBA, whatever.

I believe the reason I top charts in MMORPG's is the same reason I top charts in FPS games and MOBA games: Gaming Experience. I know how to exploit the metagame in any game I play. I know how to read information, guides, tips. I know how to figure out what REALLY is the best, and why. I'm also fast and skilled (intelligent?) so I'm sure that helps.

 

 

and modest too

The facts were very relevant to the topic. Modesty doesn't exclude speaking the truth when the topic warrants it. If someone says a fact, what's it to you? Does it offend you that I am good at video games or slept through college not paying attention with better test scores than those who studied ridiculously hard? Does it make you feel bad?

 

I always think it's funny when people get offended that others talk about the fact they're very good at video games, they're smart, etc.

I apologize if it offends you, but yes...I am very intelligent. That's part of the reason I have so much frustration in my life and find it very difficult to find friends I actually enjoy talking to. It's not all roses you know. There is an endless amount of disappointment with society (especially the more educated you become) and a ridiculous amount of boredom that comes from the lack of challenge in some areas. Not everyone is well educated, open minded, and not hyper-sensitive when others are prosperous. It's not easy to have an interesting conversation when other people seem to have a hard time grasping basic concepts or simple facts.

Sometimes I wish I were not, simply for the fact people like you wouldn't make me facepalm constantly, making myself think every post, "...and why are you still posting on these forums?" Fortunately I stay for those rare posters who speak rationally, don't attempt to troll people, and are mature enough to realize cracking a joke every 10 seconds doesn't make you as witty as you may think while smirking in a false sense of forum victory.

 

Of course, it always helps to add people to my ignore list :)

What facts?  All is see are a bunch of words on a bulletin board from some anonymous player who claims to be gods gift to gaming.  When you show me evidence to back up your claim, then we'll discuss the difference between people who spout facts and those that are merely blowhards.

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