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  Zekiah

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Hype (noun)
1. to trick; gull.
2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

4/19/12 9:47:52 AM#41
Originally posted by Fadedbomb

It seems the longer I wait the more "I told you so's" I'm handing out. 

 

I hate being that guy, except today :).

But when are gamers going to figure out the warning signs on the next game before purchase? How many times does the gaming community have to be suckered before we say, "NO! NO MORE!" so we can get better games produced?

Maybe that was just a dream I had once. 

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  Zekiah

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Hype (noun)
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2. exaggerated publicity; hoopla.
3. swindle, deception, or trick.

4/19/12 9:48:53 AM#42
Originally posted by Ayupan23

Will EMU out live both the NGE, And SWTOR?

Yep. By far.

"Censorship is never over for those who have experienced it. It is a brand on the imagination that affects the individual who has suffered it, forever." - Noam Chomsky

  Anubisan

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4/19/12 9:51:32 AM#43

I am also a long-time supporter of this game. I still enjoy it a lot, but I just recently started a new alt and I have to say that Bioware definitely did change some things in the early game. It IS much easier to kill things now at low level. I did not notice a difference on my high level characters, but the difference in early game was very noticeable to me. I was able to absolutely breeze through areas that I remembered giving me difficulties during beta and early after release...

Honestly though, I don't see this as a problem. Bioware has just made it easier to speed through the early part of the game. After doing each of the starter worlds several times already, I actually appreciate being able to speed through that content and get to the more interesting parts of the game.

  Effin_Rabbit

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This Rabbit stinks!

4/19/12 9:52:04 AM#44

SWTOR is easy-mode but VG's poor game design and lack of things like alchemy and herbalism is what makes it hard and have you played or watched anyone play VG recently? Youll remember why you stopped playing if you do.

  Oziius

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4/19/12 9:55:18 AM#45
Originally posted by eddieg50

   I have always been a big supporter or swtor on these forums but now it is time to cancel and this is why.

     I started out on a heavy to full server and as a casual player got my Sith character up to lvl 25, I quit for a month to play ME3 and when i came back to swtor it was a very, very light server and there was no way to transfer.  OK I said let me try a bounty hunter on a very heavy server (fat man), as usual I enjoyed the quests, voice overs etc but something was wrong I could not put my finger on it, anyway I decided to play a jedi counselor in the same server and knew right away what was wrong.  SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight! Now combat in swtor has never been super hard but i did die several times especially against bosses and somewhere along the line they made it super easy and that just kills the game for me.   I was able to forgive a lack luster crafting game, a play by numbers PvP , a space game that was not as good as jump to light speed as long as the combat was decent.        I cant even get my 30 days free even though i started from day 1 cause i dont have a character to 50 or several characters in the 40's. So even though I am spending $15 a month EA says tough luck.

     Dont get me wrong I still love the Story, voice overs, cut scenes , companions but the super easy combat has taken me out of the game.   The funny thing is a game with poor quests has I think won me over, that is right Like an old Junk Yard dog with fleas that grows on you Tera has got me. I just love the combat and I play to just play the main quest line and ignore most of the side quests.   I also am looking forward to Vanguard F2P and of course Guild Wars 2,   but goodbye swtor , if you happen to give character transfers for free or merge let me know and I will consider rejoining if you tweak the combat a bit toward the harder side. I fell very sad, For the first time since Shadowbane I thought I found my MMO and it was not to be.

Hmmm. So let me get this straight... you played til about 25, left, came back and prolly got in the 20's or so and quit again cause the combat is too easy? Dod you ever have a character over 30? Just wondering. 

 

You have to understand that a group of three mobs in this game is the equivilent of one mob in another game. They did this on purpose. It was so that the battles would feel a little more epic, and you wouldn't just feel like an advanced bounty hunter, trooper , Jedi, etc beeating the shit outta one poor peon. So when you blast one of three mobs that come at you and do a lot of damage, it's because you still have two more to fight. This gets proressively harder as you level. 

 

Sorry to see you go, especially if you haven't had a character past 25. Also, I must say... if you think the combat is too easy in TOR, how the hell are you gonna play Tera? I have played every beta of Tera and while I think that the combat is fun, let's not fool ourselves into thinking it's really that difficult. I thought it would be, cause you have to aim and whatnot. But it turns out, it's not. You just aim and click like a crazy person. Granted, if you want to jass it up, dive and what have you, you can, but with most mobs, as you're refering to normal mobs in TOR, you can really just stand there and click the same button until they die. My 4 y/o son was actually really good at it... ROFL. 

 

  ktanner3

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4/19/12 10:26:29 AM#46
Originally posted by Anubisan

I am also a long-time supporter of this game. I still enjoy it a lot, but I just recently started a new alt and I have to say that Bioware definitely did change some things in the early game. It IS much easier to kill things now at low level. I did not notice a difference on my high level characters, but the difference in early game was very noticeable to me. I was able to absolutely breeze through areas that I remembered giving me difficulties during beta and early after release...

Honestly though, I don't see this as a problem. Bioware has just made it easier to speed through the early part of the game. After doing each of the starter worlds several times already, I actually appreciate being able to speed through that content and get to the more interesting parts of the game.

 

I agree. but I will have to say that it's always going to be easier going back and doing what you've already done. When you first play it, the game is fresh and new and you don't have your playstyle down pat yet.Once you've leveld up a main and go back with an alt, it's always easier because you're used to how the mobs work and you're more familiar with the game. I have three characters that started on Koriban and it was easier every time I did it and that was all before patch 1.2.

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  Nethermancer

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4/19/12 10:38:11 AM#47

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

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  ktanner3

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4/19/12 10:46:11 AM#48
Originally posted by Nethermancer

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.

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  BeansnBread

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4/19/12 10:47:55 AM#49
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Nethermancer

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.

Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Chrome1980

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4/19/12 10:49:33 AM#50
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Nethermancer

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.

Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.

SWTOR has lots of problems and i always speak up about it but this is just pure nonsense.

  BeansnBread

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4/19/12 10:50:22 AM#51
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Nethermancer

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.

Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.

SWTOR has lots of problems and i always speak up about it but this is just pure nonsense.

Not for us it wasn't.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Skuz

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4/19/12 10:51:51 AM#52

[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]

Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.

If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.

I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.

Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.

Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.

  Chrome1980

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4/19/12 10:52:06 AM#53
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Nethermancer

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.

Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.

SWTOR has lots of problems and i always speak up about it but this is just pure nonsense.

Not for us it wasn't.

Sorry i doubt anyone is going to  believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.

  BeansnBread

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4/19/12 10:53:23 AM#54
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by ktanner3
Originally posted by Nethermancer

I would agree that is was waaaay to easy.

Eve online combat is easy but you need to LEARN ALOT of things to make it easy.

Vangaurd combat is easy but you have to LEARN your class before its easy.

SWTOR is just plain easy. I just randomly did my class tree without any research and i rofl stomped everything even bosses, with the exception of the last boss fight which i died once. So from level 1-50 i had to learn A SINGLE FIGHT before i could beat it.

Unacceptable to me.

Yeah and I'm sure you have a bridge to nowhere to sell me to go along with that long line of BS you just spewed.

Me and my friends pretty much 1-shotted every instance before 50.

SWTOR has lots of problems and i always speak up about it but this is just pure nonsense.

Not for us it wasn't.

Sorry i doubt anyone is going to  believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.

Why do you resort to calling me a troll? The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious ways and we just rolled over them.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Chrome1980

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4/19/12 10:55:01 AM#55
Originally posted by colddog04

Sorry i doubt anyone is going to  believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.

Why do you resort to trolling. The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious way and we just rolled over them.

Because you are trolling? saying game is easy another thing but to exaggerate and say you one shotted every instance is pure trolling. 

/claps

  BeansnBread

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4/19/12 10:57:44 AM#56
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by colddog04

Sorry i doubt anyone is going to  believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.

Why do you resort to trolling. The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious way and we just rolled over them.

Because you are trolling? saying game is easy another thing but to exaggerate and say you one shotted every instance is pure trolling. 

/claps

I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily. 

 

But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy. 

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Chrome1980

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4/19/12 10:57:50 AM#57
Originally posted by Skuz

[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]

Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.

If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.

I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.

Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.

Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.

I doubt that statement as well considering Jedi Knight is a tank class and yes you can dps but not as effective as sentinels. But even a sentinel can not reduce 3/4 of life off a mob with one swing unless it is 3 to 4 levels below.

 

 

Originally posted by colddog04
I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily.  

But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy. 

 

 

It is all in the context and how you put it. Trying to convey that instance was easy is not same as 'i one shotted the instance'. Can't blame me for jumping on the wagon.

  Oziius

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4/19/12 11:04:28 AM#58
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by Skuz

[quote] SWTOR had taken the WOW, EQ2, LOTRO route and made combat to easy or the super easy mode as it is called, one swing of my light saber took 3/4 of the life off a mob and I was not even a Jedi knight![/quote]

Well. I'm going to question the validity of this statement because it looks completely bogus to me.

If the enemy was the same level as you this would not happen, if it did it happened only in your head, so if you want to convince me otherwise I want you to video it & post it on YouTube, until you can show some kind of proof to back this claim up I'm calling it bullshit.

I have characters ranging from 30-50 on both factions & have never witnessed anything like what you describe.

Is the combat easy? Yes it is unless you haven't learnt how to play the characters.

Is the combat substantially less difficult than other games using the same design, no it isn't, it's very comparable to other games and always has been, it didn't suddenly change in the time you weren't playing, it was like this before you left.

I doubt that statement as well considering Jedi Knight is a tank class and yes you can dps but not as effective as sentinels. But even a sentinel can not reduce 3/4 of life off a mob with one swing unless it is 3 to 4 levels below.

I have been playin TOR since December. I'm a casual player, I play as much as I can. I havevn't found the combat any difference then any other MMO I've played, except for the use of multiple mobs for most encounters as I mentioned earlier. So Yeah, one mob of three may be easier then another game where you are only fighting one mob, but this is supplemented by the fact that you're fighting three. I mean, honestly, I was playing WoW before this as a healer and litterally doing other things outside of the game while healing with my Shaman. Never once has someone in my group come close to death. So, in short, I find the combat to be harder then WoW fo sho. Can't vividly remmeber  others at the moment, but I'm sure it's right on par. 

 

All this nonsense about one-shotting shit in instances all the way to 50 is just that.... nonsense. 

  BeansnBread

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4/19/12 11:06:49 AM#59

Well, we've done a lot of raiding in our day. And we were literally shocked at how easy it was.

 

But you can try and make SWTOR seem hard. It probably is for some people. Especially random groups with no vent.

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  Smilingdeath

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4/19/12 11:08:16 AM#60
Originally posted by colddog04
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by colddog04

Sorry i doubt anyone is going to  believe that you were one shotting every instance before 50. Don't troll us please.

Why do you resort to trolling. The game was literally easy for us. The bosses were telegraphed in very obvious way and we just rolled over them.

Because you are trolling? saying game is easy another thing but to exaggerate and say you one shotted every instance is pure trolling. 

/claps

I think perhaps you jump on the "troll wagon" a little too easily. 

 

But whatever. We crushed the instances. They were easy. 

Have you done any of the ops? We just started a couple of weeks ago, doing kiraggas palace, and we wiped many times on the first boss till we learned the fight. And thats supposed to be EZ.

 

If you 1 shotted all the instances, I say what Hack are you using?

 

otherwise you are simply full of it.

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