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  Eir_S

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4/18/12 11:55:44 PM#21
Originally posted by skydiver12

Soloing a named BAM for 19 Minutes

That sounds incredibly boring.

  Jockan

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4/18/12 11:59:30 PM#22
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Mannish

LOL, I dont understand how somebody can say its wrong for the OP to play the way he wants to play. If he has found a way for the game to be more enjoyable for him then good. I am a grinder and not a quester so its good to see that my playstyle can be played in TERA. Its not about TERA's questing because really its the same as all the other quest based games. Its about actually being able to advance in the game without having to do all the quest that the game has.

I might counter that by saying that I don't understand why someone feels like creating a thread describe how he likes to play MMORPGs.  What exactly are we supposed to write in terms of a reply?  This guy likes mob grinding, but lets call a spade a spade here.  it's mob grinding.  it's not creating your own story or even really exploring.  TERA's zones are nowhere near as in depth as those found in EQ1.  I don't understand that comparison at all.

 

You still dont understand. Creating a story can be something simple as going out riding your horse and deciding to stop and fight some mobs you never tried just for the hell of it. Next thing you know you get attacked by a red and while fighting the red another passer by sees the battle and stops to help. You both kill the red and then decide to go kill a bam. You all fight a good fight but  die trying and laugh because it was so fun and you both add each other  friends list and from that day on you and this person level together every day all the way to max level experiencing more adventures like you did the first day you met. To me this is what I call making my own story and going on my own adventures. 

See most people like you have no idea what adventure really is. I have never liked quest based games and have played Lineage 2 for 6 years and nonthing else. The game is all about mob grinding and I have loved every second of it. Does that mean that a person who plays Lineage 2 has never experienced adventure or explored? 

 

  Azmodai

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Joined: 11/06/11
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4/19/12 12:25:17 AM#23
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by skydiver12

Soloing a named BAM for 19 Minutes

That sounds incredibly boring.

Its not WOW, In TERA you've got to be on your toes the whole fight or you die very fast. Well I dont think that it would last 19 minutes for a Solo bam fight but his point still stands, Remember action Combat + aiming makes grinding a lot better than you think. 

  SuperXero89

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4/19/12 12:29:33 AM#24
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Mannish

LOL, I dont understand how somebody can say its wrong for the OP to play the way he wants to play. If he has found a way for the game to be more enjoyable for him then good. I am a grinder and not a quester so its good to see that my playstyle can be played in TERA. Its not about TERA's questing because really its the same as all the other quest based games. Its about actually being able to advance in the game without having to do all the quest that the game has.

I might counter that by saying that I don't understand why someone feels like creating a thread describe how he likes to play MMORPGs.  What exactly are we supposed to write in terms of a reply?  This guy likes mob grinding, but lets call a spade a spade here.  it's mob grinding.  it's not creating your own story or even really exploring.  TERA's zones are nowhere near as in depth as those found in EQ1.  I don't understand that comparison at all.

 

You still dont understand. Creating a story can be something simple as going out riding your horse and deciding to stop and fight some mobs you never tried just for the hell of it. Next thing you know you get attacked by a red and while fighting the red another passer by sees the battle and stops to help. You both kill the red and then decide to go kill a bam. You all fight a good fight but  die trying and laugh because it was so fun and you both add each other  friends list and from that day on you and this person level together every day all the way to max level experiencing more adventures like you did the first day you met. To me this is what I call making my own story and going on my own adventures. 

See most people like you have no idea what adventure really is. I have never liked quest based games and have played Lineage 2 for 6 years and nonthing else. The game is all about mob grinding and I have loved every second of it. Does that mean that a person who plays Lineage 2 has never experienced adventure or explored? 

 

You're talking to a person who came from the original EverQuest, a game that bled adventure.  Everything about that game encouraged player interaction and interdependance.  Not even Lineage II made subscribers that dependant on each other. What you and Sovrath are describing can be done in any MMORPG, whether it's TERA, EverQuest, WoW, or LotRO.  This is not some implemented feature that you can use as a way to praise a certain game.

I'm glad that you enjoy mob grinding, but you don't have to sugar-coat your opinion to make it more than it really is.

  Jockan

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4/19/12 12:35:59 AM#25
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Mannish
Originally posted by SuperXero89
Originally posted by Mannish

LOL, I dont understand how somebody can say its wrong for the OP to play the way he wants to play. If he has found a way for the game to be more enjoyable for him then good. I am a grinder and not a quester so its good to see that my playstyle can be played in TERA. Its not about TERA's questing because really its the same as all the other quest based games. Its about actually being able to advance in the game without having to do all the quest that the game has.

I might counter that by saying that I don't understand why someone feels like creating a thread describe how he likes to play MMORPGs.  What exactly are we supposed to write in terms of a reply?  This guy likes mob grinding, but lets call a spade a spade here.  it's mob grinding.  it's not creating your own story or even really exploring.  TERA's zones are nowhere near as in depth as those found in EQ1.  I don't understand that comparison at all.

 

You still dont understand. Creating a story can be something simple as going out riding your horse and deciding to stop and fight some mobs you never tried just for the hell of it. Next thing you know you get attacked by a red and while fighting the red another passer by sees the battle and stops to help. You both kill the red and then decide to go kill a bam. You all fight a good fight but  die trying and laugh because it was so fun and you both add each other  friends list and from that day on you and this person level together every day all the way to max level experiencing more adventures like you did the first day you met. To me this is what I call making my own story and going on my own adventures. 

See most people like you have no idea what adventure really is. I have never liked quest based games and have played Lineage 2 for 6 years and nonthing else. The game is all about mob grinding and I have loved every second of it. Does that mean that a person who plays Lineage 2 has never experienced adventure or explored? 

 

You're talking to a person who came from the original EverQuest, a game that bled adventure.  Everything about that game encouraged player interaction and interdependance.  Not even Lineage II made subscribers that dependant on each other. What you and Sovrath are describing can be done in any MMORPG, whether it's TERA, EverQuest, WoW, or LotRO.  This is not some implemented feature that you can use as a way to praise a certain game.

I'm glad that you enjoy mob grinding, but you don't have to sugar-coat your opinion to make it more than it really is.

 

 

 

I give up. Sigh

  Deron_Barak

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OP  4/19/12 1:09:31 AM#26

 It seems some people responding read something compelely different than what I wrote.  This time I've decided to color code so there is no confusion.

 

 Never did I say I would be soloing through my levels: "With all of the group content, overland and dungeon, the gameplay in limiting you questing feels like EQ".  I'm not talking about mob grinding until my ears bleed.  The greatest aspect of play I'm looking forward to group play with all of the BAMs, dungeons, etc. that are there.

 

 Never did I say I was never going to quest: "Of course it would seem wierd not to do ANY quests since there are red icon quests that make up the main story of TERA. I should do those and maybe throw in guild/BAM/dungeon quests later on".  The main story itself gives a lot of xp.  The areas between steps would be opporotunities to do the other activities I listed in my OP.

 

 My point is that most games, you know the ones with a questing system your telling me is old, force you to level through that quest system and only that quest system.  Ironically instead of applauding the fact TERA allows a different way and I'm taking it you're telling me I need to follow it even though you think it's bad....wow.

 

 Yes, the side quests in TERA are common tasks and not really quests, like many of the common quests of other MMOs.  The main story quest does exactly what it needs to however: let you know what's going on and I like the lore of the main quest honestly.  I am indeed using my own imagination to enjoy the game.  Not letting a questline decide it for me.

 

 I'm not delusional or making up for a bad game design on TERA's part.  TERA is a great game no matter what you think of it's side quest system which is such a small part of what TERA is overall.  This I am glad for since I'm sick of doing quests non stop, I don't care how good they are, so I'm glad I now have a choice.  I want to do the quests that matter: Main Story, Guild Rep, Faction Rep and Dungeon.  Between these four types and doing group content while I explore and grind (hunt, whatever) when solo I am going to have a great time.

Just not worth my time anymore.

  Deron_Barak

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Joined: 3/14/06
Posts: 1139

 
OP  4/19/12 1:18:38 AM#27
Originally posted by SuperXero89

You're talking to a person who came from the original EverQuest, a game that bled adventure.  Everything about that game encouraged player interaction and interdependance.  Not even Lineage II made subscribers that dependant on each other. What you and Sovrath are describing can be done in any MMORPG, whether it's TERA, EverQuest, WoW, or LotRO.  This is not some implemented feature that you can use as a way to praise a certain game.

I'm glad that you enjoy mob grinding, but you don't have to sugar-coat your opinion to make it more than it really is.

 Well which is it? I came from EQ as well.  I was a Pally so I had little to no soloing capability but I had a blast because of grouping.  What kind of grouping? Camp and grind groups, you have to know this as well if your an EQ vet.  The game shouldn't need to force you to play like this again, it just has to make it available.  TERA makes it available.

 

Edit: I not looking for the exact same EQ "do nothing but grind" playstyle but I plan to group a lot and get a majority of my xp that way.

I'd also like to mention that in all of this TERA has a fantastic combat system making the soloing or group grinding fun if that's what you choose to do.  Choices people, choices

Just not worth my time anymore.

  rexzshadow

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Joined: 12/02/11
Posts: 1439

4/19/12 1:34:26 AM#28

Its hard for games now day to balance grouping and soloing, I believe mmorpgs should be group focused, thats why your playing a mmorpgs instead of a normal rpg. However trying to cater to more casual gamer with less time, and ofc lazy people they have to make things soloable as well. Which i think Tera does a great job at, you can solo the quest just takes longer, and if you have to kill a BAM for storyline quest you can use kaira binding to weaken it to soloable stat. However to do dungeon you have to group, and for repeat BAM farm you have to group. Has a nice balance of solo and group =D.

Also you need more hot pink in your color coding and tons of highlights so it make you felt like you just ate some fruit loops after reading =D

  ropenice

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4/19/12 1:38:28 AM#29

Don't let them get you down guys. Enjoy your game of choice. Odd that the same people that want to close every thread on GW2 forum that critisizes it, come here to give you guys a hard time for saying you are having fun playing the game your way.

  Deron_Barak

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OP  4/19/12 1:51:33 AM#30
Originally posted by rexzshadow

Also you need more hot pink in your color coding and tons of highlights so it make you felt like you just ate some fruit loops after reading =D

 I tried to keep it to a minimum while stioll getting my point across but you right, it could have used more flare

Just not worth my time anymore.

  stayontarget

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4/19/12 2:57:42 AM#31

Finally we get to play for real, I've been waiting a long time for this day to come.  Sad thing is I'm only going to be able to play for 2 hours before i have to go to work.

Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...

  Deron_Barak

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OP  4/19/12 3:10:19 AM#32
No kidding! 10 weeks of three day tastes are finally paying off. Even without the new content up front I'd be excited. If I makes you feel an better I won't be able to play until about 10pm PST. I hope your day goes by fast though.

Just not worth my time anymore.

  stayontarget

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4/19/12 3:36:51 AM#33

I get back home from work around 11:30pm and will probably log back in at midnight for a few more hours at least :p 

Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...

  Kehdar

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4/19/12 8:41:29 AM#34
Originally posted by ropenice

Don't let them get you down guys. Enjoy your game of choice. Odd that the same people that want to close every thread on GW2 forum that critisizes it, come here to give you guys a hard time for saying you are having fun playing the game your way.

So true, as a fan of both games i'm trying to stay away from stupid controversy, but it really hard some times. I really don't get why people feel the need to go on the other game board to bash it...

I love Guild Wars and I play it since the relase of the GW1 ( I even get the collector of GW1 at release) but I must say i start to hate the gw2 community on this site, they seems to think that for GW2 to be a success every other game has to be smite to the ground. They act like fanatics, all this GW2 vs the world is start to really look like mass hysteria.

True, there are some tera fans on GW2 board as well, but i guess the problem is more pronounced here since GW2 fans are a lot more. I started to put annoying fans from both sides on ignore, but good God i have to block half forum at this point.

I don't see why is so hard to understand that a player can like both games for different reasons. And i don't understand why some ppl feel the need to post in a forum of a game they don't like just to bash it.

 

For example:

@itgrowls: you don't see the point to pay 15$ a month for this game? Fine just don't...

@Eir_s: You already made it clear that you don't like TERA in a lot of other posts (defining it meh, or sugar injected via your eyeballs), so why do you have to come here (on TERA board) and write something so useless and annoying like "That sounds incredibly boring"? I love BAM fights it's the main reason i like TERA, you don't like it? Don't play TERA, simple as that. You are one of the first to get pissed when some posters on GW2 forum do what you just did here...

 

Really guys have you ever heard the saying "live and let live" in our case would be more "play and let play".  I for one will play both games and I'm sure I will enjoy both for different reasons.

  Sovrath

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4/19/12 1:33:18 PM#35
Originally posted by SuperXero89

 

You're talking to a person who came from the original EverQuest, a game that bled adventure.  Everything about that game encouraged player interaction and interdependance.  Not even Lineage II made subscribers that dependant on each other. What you and Sovrath are describing can be done in any MMORPG, whether it's TERA, EverQuest, WoW, or LotRO.  This is not some implemented feature that you can use as a way to praise a certain game.

I'm glad that you enjoy mob grinding, but you don't have to sugar-coat your opinion to make it more than it really is.

Yes, this type of game play can be done in any game.

It's pretty much how I play mmo's as I usually just drop the quests all together.

Having said that, there is more of an old school feeling, at least for the moment, in Tera than some of the recent titles I've played. I think it's that feeling that some are reacting to.

No one is saying thisis a special feature. However, since the areas are large and one can feasibly, at a certain point, go to alternate areas to level, it feels like some older titles.

Some will like this and some won't.

  Eir_S

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Posts: 4707

GW2 socialist.

4/19/12 7:48:32 PM#36
Originally posted by Azmodai
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by skydiver12

Soloing a named BAM for 19 Minutes

That sounds incredibly boring.

Its not WOW, In TERA you've got to be on your toes the whole fight or you die very fast. Well I dont think that it would last 19 minutes for a Solo bam fight but his point still stands, Remember action Combat + aiming makes grinding a lot better than you think. 

I don't know if you're kidding or not.  The first boss fight I looked up on Youtube after someone mentioned how good the bosses look (and they look great) did not show any kind of movement based skills involved.

http://youtu.be/U9aBooolcYE

Now maybe I'm missing something (level, class, the boss itself), or my luck is just not very good when looking up these kinds of things, but that looks terribly dull.

  DiSpLiFF

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Posts: 611

4/19/12 7:53:36 PM#37

I was going to try the beta until someone mentioned that it's 24 gigs. That's a hefty load on my bandwith just for a weekend. 

  Eir_S

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Posts: 4707

GW2 socialist.

4/19/12 7:54:46 PM#38
Originally posted by Kehdar

@Eir_s: You already made it clear that you don't like TERA in a lot of other posts (defining it meh, or sugar injected via your eyeballs), so why do you have to come here (on TERA board) and write something so useless and annoying like "That sounds incredibly boring"? I love BAM fights it's the main reason i like TERA, you don't like it? Don't play TERA, simple as that. You are one of the first to get pissed when some posters on GW2 forum do what you just did here...

This has got to be the umpteenth time I've been told not to give my opinion on the Tera forums.  I stated that I could be wrong about the "BAM" fights I found through Youtube based on class or level - maybe the one fighting was a "tank" class.  I also had someone contest my post saying you have you be on your toes during those fights and in none of the videos did I see that happening.  Simple enough.  In light of your other comments though, I don't remember ever seeing GW2 fans tell Tera players to leave.  Whether I get pissed or not is not an issue, they have all the right in the world to express their views, and they do it every single day.

And now a simple comment has turned into this drama again.  Go ahead and report me for having an opinion.

  Deron_Barak

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Posts: 1139

 
OP  4/19/12 8:00:22 PM#39
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Azmodai
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by skydiver12

Soloing a named BAM for 19 Minutes

That sounds incredibly boring.

Its not WOW, In TERA you've got to be on your toes the whole fight or you die very fast. Well I dont think that it would last 19 minutes for a Solo bam fight but his point still stands, Remember action Combat + aiming makes grinding a lot better than you think. 

I don't know if you're kidding or not.  The first boss fight I looked up on Youtube after someone mentioned how good the bosses look (and they look great) did not show any kind of movement based skills involved.

http://youtu.be/U9aBooolcYE

Now maybe I'm missing something (level, class, the boss itself), or my luck is just not very good when looking up these kinds of things, but that looks terribly dull.

 Steparu was showing the movements of the crab and he is a Lancer which is less about dodging and more abotu blocking.  The video starts off with the crab at about 10% also so you see the amount of time it would take someone to solo it lol.

 Here is a better video displaying the group aspect of a BAM fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxLG6szqRbk

Notice how the health bars fall if hit.

Just not worth my time anymore.

  Eir_S

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Posts: 4707

GW2 socialist.

4/19/12 8:03:49 PM#40
Originally posted by Deron_Barak
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by Azmodai
Originally posted by Eir_S
Originally posted by skydiver12

Soloing a named BAM for 19 Minutes

That sounds incredibly boring.

Its not WOW, In TERA you've got to be on your toes the whole fight or you die very fast. Well I dont think that it would last 19 minutes for a Solo bam fight but his point still stands, Remember action Combat + aiming makes grinding a lot better than you think. 

I don't know if you're kidding or not.  The first boss fight I looked up on Youtube after someone mentioned how good the bosses look (and they look great) did not show any kind of movement based skills involved.

http://youtu.be/U9aBooolcYE

Now maybe I'm missing something (level, class, the boss itself), or my luck is just not very good when looking up these kinds of things, but that looks terribly dull.

 Steparu was showing the movements of the crab and he is a Lancer which is less about dodging and more abotu blocking.  The video starts off with the crab at about 10% also so you see the amount of time it would take someone to solo it lol.

 Here is a better video displaying the group aspect of a BAM fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxLG6szqRbk

Notice how the health bars fall if hit.

Now see, that wasn't hard at all.  No one told me to leave or insulted me, they proved me wrong by showing me that I'd missed something (or was right about the lancer class).  Obviously some classes are more capable of solo'ing than others.  Thank you Deron, that was a much more interesting fight than the ones I found.

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