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  Larsa

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OP  4/16/12 8:43:52 PM#1

Haven't seen a thread about it, but EA BioWare are talking about population, character transfers and the possibility of server merges.

Key quotes:

"One of the problems we’re running into right now is kind of a classic MMO problem, which is that our overall population of players has not changed, but our peak concurrent users has changed."

"Are server merges a possible solution? Absolutely. Are character transfers a possible solution? They’re a definite solution and we’re going after that first. But all things are on the table."

Find the full article with quotes from EA BioWare's Lead Designer Daniel Erickson here: http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1324496/swtor_bioware_reponds_to_criticism_server_merges_still_possible.html

 

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  BeansnBread

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4/16/12 8:47:35 PM#2

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

SWTOR is the greatest mmo ever!

  SlothnChunk

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4/16/12 8:49:48 PM#3
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

EA shareholders.

  Ryowulf

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4/16/12 8:50:09 PM#4

"overall population of players has not changed, but our peak concurrent users has changed"

 

Why would a gaming company even bother saying that? No one would believe it, so it makes the company seem like its lying.

 

 

  aesperus

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4/16/12 8:51:39 PM#5
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

Why do they lie? 

Cause they are still holding on to the definition of accounts (even though atm are enabled by default under 'free' status) as enabled subscriptions, instead of logged in users. Many games do this, it's not only easier to keep track of, but for many they have a subscription model so they are getting income either way.  However, in this case they basically gave every a free trial, so it's not an accurate number.

  NeoZcar2

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4/16/12 8:51:43 PM#6

Actually they lie to the gamers they dont lie to shareholders... the shareholders got a report that subscriptions were well under 800k but they still claim 1.5million+ to gamers. The reason for this is to try and grasp at the last remnants holding onto the game in hopes that lieing to them will keep them there.

  aesperus

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4/16/12 8:52:13 PM#7
Originally posted by SlothnChunk
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

EA shareholders.

This ^ as well.

  DrunkWolf

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4/16/12 8:52:15 PM#8
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

I guess when you give everybody a free month it counts as everybody is still playing the game. maybe they count me as a customer still because i got a free month. even though the game is uninstalled on my computer.

  Ice-Queen

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4/16/12 8:53:17 PM#9
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

They don't want to admit it's changed. Once the 6 months subs and now the free days on top of that goes away, they'll HAVE to face reality. My husband bought a 6 months sub and many others I know bought 3-6 months subs, all have quit playing. So they look as to be subscribers but none are ingame playing.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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  snapfusion

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4/16/12 8:54:06 PM#10

Their over all population includes people that have unsubbed but still have time remaining on their account, those people who are no longer logging in creating those "peak" performance problmes they were having.

  nomss

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4/16/12 8:57:42 PM#11
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

How can you know?

Guild Wars 2's 50 minutes game play video:
http://n4g.com/news/592585/guild-wars-2-50-minutes-of-pure-gameplay
Everything We Know about GW2:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/287180/page/1

  Zefire

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4/16/12 8:58:21 PM#12

Wow very soon i would say.

That means we will have it  buy to play in 1 year or less

  Drakxii

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4/16/12 9:02:39 PM#13
Originally posted by Larsa

"One of the problems we’re running into right now is kind of a classic MMO problem, which is that our overall population of players has not changed, but our peak concurrent users has changed."

I saw this and I was going to post it here but I was to busy laughing at this.

I will not play a game with a cash shop ever again. A dev job should be to make the game better not make me pay so it sucks less.

  PyrateLV

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4/16/12 9:05:18 PM#14

"One of the problems we’re running into right now is kind of a classic MMO problem, which is that our game really isnt that good so our concurrent users has changed."

 

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  DeaconX

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4/16/12 9:08:56 PM#15
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by SlothnChunk
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

EA shareholders.

This ^ as well.

How could they lie to shareholders though? Those people get to see the numbers, one would presume... either way... none of this is a big surprised to most of us, I would think.


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  SlothnChunk

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4/16/12 9:11:31 PM#16
Originally posted by DeaconX
Originally posted by aesperus
Originally posted by SlothnChunk
Originally posted by colddog04

Their overall population of players has not changed?

 

Why do they lie? 

EA shareholders.

This ^ as well.

How could they lie to shareholders though? Those people get to see the numbers, one would presume... either way... none of this is a big surprised to most of us, I would think.

They legally can't. But that's why they offered so much free time lately. Those people that all came back, even for five minutes, will all get counted. They are padding the books.

  Ice-Queen

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4/16/12 9:15:58 PM#17

March 8th shareholder transcripts.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/1728125741x0x551670/86a5c9a0-1ee8-480f-887b-04bf50c8d268/ERTS_Wedbush_03082012_Transcript.pdf

 

 

"I've heard from investors today saying that
we must have 800,000 subscribers. I heard 600,000 yesterday. So what I think a lot of people have
misunderstood is we said we had 1.7 million subscribers on the last call, which was about a month ago. What that
was about was the fact that only about – just about half that number had triggered through their 30-day point and
become active subscribers, our definition of recurring subscribers.
We had about half that total still in the 30-day trial period, but they're subscribers because that first month is
including with a package good. What I said a month ago was, just over half."

 

Soo, they counted people that bought the game and had the 30 days from buying it as subscribers because they had 30 days free when buying the game? Trying to understand this.

What happens when you log off your characters????.....
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  MMOarQQ

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4/16/12 9:19:30 PM#18

The game is bleeding like a stuck pig and these bozos are talking basic first aid. Textbook denial.

  User Deleted
4/16/12 9:20:05 PM#19

"One of the problems we’re running into right now is kind of a classic MMO problem, which is that our overall population of players has not changed, but our peak concurrent users has changed."

 

So it's a classic problem for all MMORPGs but you had NO plan to address the problem at launch?  Server mergers/transfers are in the WORKS even though you KNEW this would be a problem?

 

Cry me a river.

#OccupyFatman

 

 

  DeaconX

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4/16/12 9:22:16 PM#20
Originally posted by Tayah

March 8th shareholder transcripts.

http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/1728125741x0x551670/86a5c9a0-1ee8-480f-887b-04bf50c8d268/ERTS_Wedbush_03082012_Transcript.pdf

 

 

"I've heard from investors today saying that
we must have 800,000 subscribers. I heard 600,000 yesterday. So what I think a lot of people have
misunderstood is we said we had 1.7 million subscribers on the last call, which was about a month ago. What that
was about was the fact that only about – just about half that number had triggered through their 30-day point and
become active subscribers, our definition of recurring subscribers.
We had about half that total still in the 30-day trial period, but they're subscribers because that first month is
including with a package good. What I said a month ago was, just over half."

 

Soo, they counted people that bought the game and had the 30 days from buying it as subscribers because they had 30 days free when buying the game? Trying to understand this.

THIS man knows EXACTLY what was meant


Why do I write, create, fantasize, dream and daydream about other worlds? Because I hate what humanity does with this one.

BOYCOTTING EA / ORIGIN going forward.

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