Originally posted by otacu

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by otacu

 

 

When asked about it Eme said "we are focusing on the launch for now, we don't want to talk about the cash shop".

Which sounds very fishy to me.

The moment EU Tera will get the p2w K Tera cash shop i will unsubscribe.

 

Well, for sake of clarity here is the exact quote:

Since my response has been buried... I am reposting it here and we are going to close out the other threads. Feel free to reply below.

"Guys you are getting worked up over another publisher's choice or decision. Bluehole provides every publisher with a bunch of cool features or items and it is up to the publisher to decide how to utilize them.

Right now our focus is on launching TERA successfully and whether you believe it or not we have yet to make any decisions around most of these type of items. We have talked about some of the premium items we are working on such as name or appearance changes but beyond that nothing is final."

http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forums/general-discussion/topics/EMEs-Response-to-Koreas-Item-Shop-Announcement?page=1

Yes that's why i said it's not a problem right now. As the gw2 cash shop is only cosmetic items. That's fine.

It's the t-cat coins shop the problem. EME MUST refuse to introduce it.

Incorrect, take another look

Fact, GW2 has announced they will have a store

Fact, TERA has not

Can we get back to how awesome TERA is now  

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Originally posted by rexzshadow
This is more of the problem with the current generation rather than the game themselves. MMORPG used to be something people play to work together toward a goal. To compete with each other and have satification on thing you work hard to earn. Now generation just want them and want them now without any work. They also want to be able to do everything so you don't need to group with other people. Thus you killed the purpose of mmorpgs and they end up just like a single player game.

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But now the consumer are millions of people and they are not all people that can and WANT to spend hours daily to do things like in past mmorpg.

They want to have fun and they want it NOW.
And it's understandable: they have a life, they have a job, they have other insterests. Old mmorpg were huge timesinks.

So of course SoftwareHouses are going for the big audience and not for the small (very) minority.

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Originally posted by rexzshadow
@otacu also the equipment means nothign at all, highest you get is lvl 54 and you probably get better stuff from just quest and dungeons. Its there for peopel who are blasting through the game too fast to get their own gear, doesn't add any advantage as all. The good gear you still have to farm, the bandage are only for lower down time in pve more of convience item than anything. Potion wise not really, you can make more useful potion through alchemy. As for protion of crystal, so what? It doesn't make you any stronger because your crystal don't break when you die in pve. You save money thats about yet, does nothing to make you stronger.
P2W means if you buy the stuff you will be obviously more power, convience isn't P2W or else GW2 is p2w as well. Inv expansion is a convience, so is more character slots. Its ok to sell convience just now power.
Google microtransaction by extra credit it was a good video i know i watched it 10 times =X

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No crystal breaking.
100% HP/MP ressurect scrolls.
Self regen of a whopping 100% HP and MP over 20 seconds usable before combat.
100% stamina regen potion, usable in combat.
Guild regen buff that STACKS with other current guild buffs

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Just the No crystal breaking means P2W because people with this bonus can basically farm instances more than others or they can pvp without restraints.
If you think something like No crystal breaking is simple "convenience" it's YOUR opinion.
And the other items too are p2w.
If you don't see a problem here i won't argue any further.
But most of the players (and myself) HATE these things in a cash shop.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by otacu

 

Incorrect, take another look:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/cash-shop-items-leak-t32319.html

Fact, GW2 has announced they will have a store

Fact, TERA has not

Can we get back to how awesome TERA is now  

Thank you but i already know about the leaks. Small boost to exp and karma. Nothing p2w

The only thing getting close is the orb of resurrection that clearly states you cannot use in pvp and wvwvw so again no problem.

It's perfectly fine. If EU Tera will have a cash shop like that and not like K Tera i will be very happy.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by hotix

MUST PK DERON!!!!!

(sorry guys, waiting on a res)

Quit slacking off DB, we know you are just waiting for the microwave to ding... 

Originally posted by otacu

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by otacu

 

Incorrect, take another look:

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/cash-shop-items-leak-t32319.html

Fact, GW2 has announced they will have a store

Fact, TERA has not

Can we get back to how awesome TERA is now  

Thank you but i already know about the leaks. Small boost to exp and karma. Nothing p2w

The only thing getting close is the orb of resurrection that clearly states you cannot use in pvp and wvwvw so again no problem.

It's perfectly fine. If EU Tera will have a cash shop like that and not like K Tera i will be very happy.

 What about the "Magic Find" boost for getting rare drops or the "Mystic Key" for when you get a random "Mystic Chest" drop from a mob or PvP kill? Is it going to seem cosmetic then? Bag slots, Bank slots, extra character slots.  What is a "Minie"?

 I have no doubt that even with the "not required" required items that it will be worth it to GW2 fans.  You seem to always paint TERA in the most negetive light you can but your glossing this over.

Originally posted by Wraithone

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by hotix

MUST PK DERON!!!!!

(sorry guys, waiting on a res)

Quit slacking off DB, we know you are just waiting for the microwave to ding... 

 I eh, ah... still hungry but I-

Need another res!

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by otacu

 What about the "Magic Find" boost for getting rare drops or the "Mystic Key" for when you get a random "Mystic Chest" drop from a mob or PvP kill? Is it going to seem cosmetic then? Bag slots, Bank slots, extra character slots.  What is a "Minie"?

 I have no doubt that even with the "not required" required items that it will be worth it to GW2 fans.  You seem to always paint TERA in the most negetive light you can but your glossing this over.

It's simple. Gear doesn't mean anything in GW2 so the "magic find" is useless if you want more power. There is no gear grind.

Mystic key can be looted from mobs too and again since the game is not gear based no problem at all. 

The gear plateu is there.

Bag slots, bank slots and extra character slots are convenience items and that's fine (as i said too for the Tera items)

It's the items that give you an advantage in pvp or pve over other players that make a "p2w" item.

And there are no such things in Gw2. And i doubt there will ever be since in his 7 year history Gw1 never got a p2w cash shop.

Ask yourself: do you think you are more powerful in pvp with these items? of course not since everyone gets the same gear.

Do the same question about the Ktera cash shop.

Originally posted by Robokapp

the last sleeper hit was alganon...or so they said.

I literally laughed out loud when I read this.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
I guess your right, if drops mean nothing in GW2 then it really doesn't matter what's in thier CS. Weird that they would want you buy the keys though if that's the case. They seem to have a shop like EQ2 does.

As far as NA TERA goes, when they have a CS I'll let you know how I feel about it lol. Most assuredly, if TERA has a CS with any P2W items it will be when a F2P model is introduced.

Yea I found it was weird how they want you to buy keys when you can with some time get a golem to open those chests in game.

Well fuck I assume  that makes the keys...

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
I guess your right, if drops mean nothing in GW2 then it really doesn't matter what's in thier CS. Weird that they would want you buy the keys though if that's the case. They seem to have a shop like EQ2 does.

As far as NA TERA goes, when they have a CS I'll let you know how I feel about it lol. Most assuredly, if TERA has a CS with any P2W items it will be when a F2P model is introduced.

is ktera P2P?

Originally posted by Morv

Originally posted by Robokapp

the last sleeper hit was alganon...or so they said.

I literally laughed out loud when I read this.

Well... Dave and his Dev's tried, but their reach exceeded their grasp. But lets move on or we shall attract the dread attention of He who is not to be named... ^^

Originally posted by chibineko89

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
I guess your right, if drops mean nothing in GW2 then it really doesn't matter what's in thier CS. Weird that they would want you buy the keys though if that's the case. They seem to have a shop like EQ2 does.

As far as NA TERA goes, when they have a CS I'll let you know how I feel about it lol. Most assuredly, if TERA has a CS with any P2W items it will be when a F2P model is introduced.

is ktera P2P?

Yes, there just no box price in KTera however it is more expansive per month.

Not sure how you're paying for the subscription, but my KTera subscription only cost $9.99 and that included the broker fee.

Oh look, Tera fans getting way too excited about a niche game and GW2 fans busting in to tell everyone how their game is superior to God.

Oh my god i am so surprised!

Originally posted by Blessings

Not sure how you're paying for the subscription, but my KTera subscription only cost $9.99 and that included the broker fee.

where the hell are you buying yours from o.o coz all site i checked are 23 dollars o.o

tera is by far better than gw2.

Originally posted by micaelmorais

tera is by far better than gw2.

 

I really like TERA, but we haven't played GW2 yet, so we can't make that conclusion.

Tried Tera Online when someone gave me a closed beta key and did not like it one bit. Everything was just too clunky.