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  hikaru77

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4/14/12 10:48:53 AM#21
Originally posted by Cetra

None of the developers at bioware understand a sh1t about mmo gaming. All patches since launch have left me disappointed.

They are better off making singleplayer games.

I cant wait for GW2 to kick swtor butt. Expect swtor to go f2p next year.

You know?, there is a lot of people who really like the 1.2 and the pvp changes, but they dont lose their time qqing on mmorpg.com and swtor.com. And plus they just give us a free month while we wait for the ranked wz. And gw2 wont ¨kick swtor¨, is a b2p game. 

  Jason2444

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4/14/12 11:11:57 AM#22

How this game still has PvPers is beyond me.

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  Ryowulf

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4/14/12 11:14:47 AM#23
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Cetra

None of the developers at bioware understand a sh1t about mmo gaming. All patches since launch have left me disappointed.

They are better off making singleplayer games.

I cant wait for GW2 to kick swtor butt. Expect swtor to go f2p next year.

You know?, there is a lot of people who really like the 1.2 and the pvp changes, but they dont lose their time qqing on mmorpg.com and swtor.com. And plus they just give us a free month while we wait for the ranked wz. And gw2 wont ¨kick swtor¨, is a b2p game. 

What do those people like about the pvp changes, since the negatives look pretty bad?

Or are you just supporting the game no matter that they do?

  Jason2444

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4/14/12 11:17:16 AM#24
Originally posted by hikaru77

You know?, there is a lot of people who really like the 1.2 and the pvp changes

All 5 of them

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  Chrome1980

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OP  4/14/12 11:17:28 AM#25
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Cetra

None of the developers at bioware understand a sh1t about mmo gaming. All patches since launch have left me disappointed.

They are better off making singleplayer games.

I cant wait for GW2 to kick swtor butt. Expect swtor to go f2p next year.

You know?, there is a lot of people who really like the 1.2 and the pvp changes, but they dont lose their time qqing on mmorpg.com and swtor.com. And plus they just give us a free month while we wait for the ranked wz. And gw2 wont ¨kick swtor¨, is a b2p game. 

Yes people sitting in full BM and Warhero gear are loving 1.2. I already mentioned that. The same people who were busy farming gear pre 1.2 on easy mode. These same people who are in panic mode now because players are asking for old system back. Who would want to leave their gear advantage? why they were quite before 1.2 and now they are telling everyone that harsh penalities on loss are brilliant.

It is sad that i put so much effort in my OP and you are simply dismissing it as QQ. The same reason why i stopped posting on official forums.

  gervaise1

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4/14/12 11:26:48 AM#26
Originally posted by thedarkess

So when this game is going f2p again?

They may have to agree any changes with LucasArts - depends on the agreement; they may simply pay LA $X and can do what they want or they may have some sort of sub based formula, the idea being that the more/less popular the franchise is the more/less money LA gets.

It also depends what you mean by f2p. A lot of the 1.2 changes seem to introduce huge timesinks - which crys out incoming inst-win cash shop. Easier, imo, would be to make the patches paid DLC - trouble is they would have to be good enough to make people pay whatever $$$ EA ask. Not a lot of new content in 1.2 when looked at objectively.

The other thing imo is introduce a small 'sub' for doing the PvP bit - like CoD; 6 monthly or yearly charge.

Like Warhammer however the game isn't really geared to an f2p cash shop. And it has cost a lot of money - whatever the actual figure the payback is supposed to come from the subscriptions. 

  JeroKane

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4/14/12 11:28:04 AM#27
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Cetra

None of the developers at bioware understand a sh1t about mmo gaming. All patches since launch have left me disappointed.

They are better off making singleplayer games.

I cant wait for GW2 to kick swtor butt. Expect swtor to go f2p next year.

You know?, there is a lot of people who really like the 1.2 and the pvp changes, but they dont lose their time qqing on mmorpg.com and swtor.com. And plus they just give us a free month while we wait for the ranked wz. And gw2 wont ¨kick swtor¨, is a b2p game. 

Please explain to us how implementing Ranks is gonna fix all this mess with PVP?

 

I can give you the answer... it's really simple:  It won't fix a darn thing!  It will make it even worse than it already is, as it will only broaden the gap with people that are already fully geared out (going to top the ranks) towards everyone else.

 

Seriously, Bioware would be better of telling the PVP'ers they are sorry and remove PVP completely from the game and just focus on PVE and fix that up and at least try to keep those people subscribed to the game.

  n3v3rriv3r

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4/14/12 11:33:46 AM#28

Good wall of text.. read it all.

  User Deleted
4/14/12 11:43:31 AM#29
Originally posted by Chrome1980
Originally posted by hikaru77
Originally posted by Cetra

None of the developers at bioware understand a sh1t about mmo gaming. All patches since launch have left me disappointed.

They are better off making singleplayer games.

I cant wait for GW2 to kick swtor butt. Expect swtor to go f2p next year.

You know?, there is a lot of people who really like the 1.2 and the pvp changes, but they dont lose their time qqing on mmorpg.com and swtor.com. And plus they just give us a free month while we wait for the ranked wz. And gw2 wont ¨kick swtor¨, is a b2p game. 

Yes people sitting in full BM and Warhero gear are loving 1.2. I already mentioned that. The same people who were busy farming gear pre 1.2 on easy mode. These same people who are in panic mode now because players are asking for old system back. Who would want to leave their gear advantage? why they were quite before 1.2 and now they are telling everyone that harsh penalities on loss are brilliant.

It is sad that i put so much effort in my OP and you are simply dismissing it as QQ. The same reason why i stopped posting on official forums.

 

Also remember that a lot of these people in full BM/ WH leveled against bolstered opponents, and who can forget the Ilum exploit ?

 

  Buttski

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4/14/12 1:11:02 PM#30

serious pvp'ers don't play swtor.

  Hamrtime

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4/14/12 1:39:01 PM#31

Im a sorc healer in full BM gear and I stopped playing Friday night. I tried the new system Thursday evening and couldnt stand the fact that they totally ruined my class. I went back Friday with a fresh outlook and tried to make it work. Sorc healers in its new state is total garbage. They nerfed our heals, made everyone else stronger and took away my dark infusion quick heal. I can now get stunned and get killed before the stun wears off. Due to the long cast times, I can no longer use dark infusion because I get stunned or interrupted. ToR was fun while it lasted but I will just spend my money on another company that has some sort of clue on how to run an mmo.

  Minsc

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4/14/12 2:19:32 PM#32
Originally posted by Buttski

seious pvp'ers don't play swtor.

True dat.

 

  GoldenArrow

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Posts: 1076

4/14/12 2:23:28 PM#33

I'm so enjoying the tears from all the ex-OP classes.

Playing sniper and only sniper since launch and having to suffer as an UP class for over 3 months was really painful.

Now I completely faceroll these crybabies who got nerfed.

  Chrome1980

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Joined: 4/14/12
Posts: 523

 
OP  4/14/12 2:40:49 PM#34
Originally posted by GoldenArrow

I'm so enjoying the tears from all the ex-OP classes.

Playing sniper and only sniper since launch and having to suffer as an UP class for over 3 months was really painful.

Now I completely faceroll these crybabies who got nerfed.

I never said anything about OP classes in my topic. Not even close.

  darkehawke

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4/14/12 2:48:00 PM#35
Originally posted by wowfan1996

 


Originally posted by Cetra
Expect swtor to go f2p next year.


Don't get your hopes up too high. SWG never went F2P. WAR never really went F2P either (since their endless trial covers such a tiny part of the game you can't even call it freemium).
 

 

SWG never went F2P because LA was always intent on shutting it down to eliminate SWTOR's competition. 

Why announce a game to shut down that was actually growing population wise and making SOE a bit of cash with that ridiculous trading card game.

But EA makes enough money from other games to let SWTOR run along to avoid the whole Free to Play outcry.

My guess is it'll go f2p once a lot more big games come out

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Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
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  darkehawke

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4/14/12 2:50:19 PM#36
Originally posted by GoldenArrow

I'm so enjoying the tears from all the ex-OP classes.

Playing sniper and only sniper since launch and having to suffer as an UP class for over 3 months was really painful.

Now I completely faceroll these crybabies who got nerfed.

dont forget most of the proper pvpers have left by now

you're probably facerolling lev 10's

Currently playing- SWG PreCU & GW 2
Have tried WoW, AoC, & Vanguard, SWG:NGE, GW, LOTRO & SWTOR
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  JeroKane

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4/14/12 2:52:29 PM#37
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by wowfan1996

 


Originally posted by Cetra
Expect swtor to go f2p next year.


Don't get your hopes up too high. SWG never went F2P. WAR never really went F2P either (since their endless trial covers such a tiny part of the game you can't even call it freemium).
 

 

SWG never went F2P because LA was always intent on shutting it down to eliminate SWTOR's competition. 

Why announce a game to shut down that was actually growing population wise and making SOE a bit of cash with that ridiculous trading card game.

But EA makes enough money from other games to let SWTOR run along to avoid the whole Free to Play outcry.

My guess is it'll go f2p once a lot more big games come out

SW:TOR's whole design screams F2P with Cashshop.

Mark my words.... in the EA board backchamber this game was designed to go F2P in the near future.

Switching this game to F2P in the near future and adding a Cashshop is peace of cake for them, as all content is already heavily gated / instanced... so easy to sell in Quest/Zone packs and adding new ones. Basically like how Turbine has done with DDO and LOTRO.  Just that with the heavy instancing / gating in SW:TOR it will be even easier.

  DeaconX

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4/14/12 2:56:59 PM#38
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by wowfan1996

 


Originally posted by Cetra
Expect swtor to go f2p next year.


Don't get your hopes up too high. SWG never went F2P. WAR never really went F2P either (since their endless trial covers such a tiny part of the game you can't even call it freemium).
 

 

SWG never went F2P because LA was always intent on shutting it down to eliminate SWTOR's competition. 

Why announce a game to shut down that was actually growing population wise and making SOE a bit of cash with that ridiculous trading card game.

But EA makes enough money from other games to let SWTOR run along to avoid the whole Free to Play outcry.

My guess is it'll go f2p once a lot more big games come out

SW:TOR's whole design screams F2P with Cashshop.

Mark my words.... in the EA board backchamber this game was designed to go F2P in the near future.

Switching this game to F2P in the near future and adding a Cashshop is peace of cake for them, as all content is already heavily gated / instanced... so easy to sell in Quest/Zone packs and adding new ones. Basically like how Turbine has done with DDO and LOTRO.  Just that with the heavy instancing / gating in SW:TOR it will be even easier.

This has been the running theory for months now at the studio where I work.  Sad part is, I'm not sure I'd even care to play it if it did go F2P :/


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  RefMinor

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4/14/12 2:57:15 PM#39
Originally posted by JeroKane
Originally posted by darkehawke
Originally posted by wowfan1996

 


Originally posted by Cetra
Expect swtor to go f2p next year.


Don't get your hopes up too high. SWG never went F2P. WAR never really went F2P either (since their endless trial covers such a tiny part of the game you can't even call it freemium).
 

 

SWG never went F2P because LA was always intent on shutting it down to eliminate SWTOR's competition. 

Why announce a game to shut down that was actually growing population wise and making SOE a bit of cash with that ridiculous trading card game.

But EA makes enough money from other games to let SWTOR run along to avoid the whole Free to Play outcry.

My guess is it'll go f2p once a lot more big games come out

SW:TOR's whole design screams F2P with Cashshop.

Mark my words.... in the EA board backchamber this game was designed to go F2P in the near future.

Switching this game to F2P in the near future and adding a Cashshop is peace of cake for them, as all content is already heavily gated / instanced... so easy to sell in Quest/Zone packs and adding new ones. Basically like how Turbine has done with DDO and LOTRO.  Just that with the heavy instancing / gating in SW:TOR it will be even easier.

 

F2P works well for SWTOR, you just charge for spacebarring in cutscenes.
  Mardukk

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4/14/12 2:57:39 PM#40
Originally posted by Jason2444

How this game still has PvPers is beyond me.

My thoughts exactly.  I thought all the PvPer's had left based on all the forum bitching.  I'm starting to think PvPer's make up about 25% of the population and 95% of the posts.

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