Originally posted by Leucent

 

Damn, now I m definately going to cry in a corner. Mellow out, your game, alot of people don t like , who cares.

you are one of the people that cares the most apparently.

maybe. just a thought here, there isn't much hype about TERA by the company because it's entirely too early? perhaps? anyone?

besides who cares what other people think about your game so long as they use facts when making broad statements about a title i'm fine with the posts. It's when people are consistantly negative who never even cracked a single video to see what gameplay is like that's when it bothers me, those people shouldn't even be allowed on the interweb much less allowed to post to any discussion board.

Originally posted by Jessina

Originally posted by Nadya3

Originally posted by Castran

TERA failed in Korea and it'll do the same here. The Secret World has a better chance at being successful, meanwhile Guild Wars 2 will be a guaranteed hit.

that is 100 % false.  in fact Tera is  the number 3 most played MMO in korea , a year after.

 

 

Fact: You do not know that GW2 will not be a hit (Your 100% false is 100% false)

Another Fact...GW2 isn't released yet and this isn't Korea.

Let me give you an OPINION that has a 99.9%chance of becoming a Fact: GW2 will be the next King of MMOs.

If I am wrong then the 0.1% chance came true.

Move along now.

 

Wow, who can argue with such "facts?"   GW2 fans make me laugh.  And why are you telling Nadya to move along when she's the one posting on a thread about the game that SHE wants to play?  Shouldn't you be the one moving along, since you're the one doing the hijacking?  

Seriously, don't you folks have anywhere to go yet?  

I don't want to start a debate over GW2's combat versus Tera because I have not played GW2 and neither have you.  What I can do is link plenty of videos of people of GW2 pvp where people are constantly getting targetted and hit by ranged attacks that would have easily been avoided in Tera.  Yes both GW2 and Tera have a dodge and block mechanic but that doesn't mean that they are both equally useful.

For instance it's possible for a tank in Tera to run to ally and shield block a ranged attack aimed at the ally.  Having played tab targetting based MMOs before, generally a ranged attack meant for that player will in fact hit them even if someone stands in the way to negate the attack.  Can you do that in GW2? I would love to see a video of that happening.  What I can show you is a video of people trying to avoid a ranged attack in GW2 and still getting hit regardless because they are targetted.

Maybe all these GW2 beta testers are just bad and can't dodge properly, or maybe it's just easier to avoid a ranged attack in Tera, which really nullifies the complaint that players hate Tera's rooting mechanics makes it harder to dodge in PvP.

Just to clarify, there's a huge difference between an actual dodge mechanic and using a defensive cooldown to avoid an attack.

Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Wow, who can argue with such "facts?"   GW2 fans make me laugh.  And why are you telling Nadya to move along when she's the one posting on a thread about the game that SHE wants to play?  Shouldn't you be the one moving along, since you're the one doing the hijacking?  

Seriously, don't you folks have anywhere to go yet?  

Well, Anet cares so much for their fans that they have a forum for their players to chat in.

http://www.guildwars2.com/en/

O WAIT!

Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

I don't want to start a debate over GW2's combat versus Tera because I have not played GW2 and neither have you.  What I can do is link plenty of videos of people of GW2 pvp where people are constantly getting targetted and hit by ranged attacks that would have easily been avoided in Tera.  Yes both GW2 and Tera have a dodge and block mechanic but that doesn't mean that they are both equally useful.

For instance it's possible for a tank in Tera to run to ally and shield block a ranged attack aimed at the ally.  Having played tab targetting based MMOs before, generally a ranged attack meant for that player will in fact hit them even if someone stands in the way to negate the attack.  Can you do that in GW2? I would love to see a video of that happening.  What I can show you is a video of people trying to avoid a ranged attack in GW2 and still getting hit regardless because they are targetted.

Maybe all these GW2 beta testers are just bad and can't dodge properly, or maybe it's just easier to avoid a ranged attack in Tera, which really nullifies the complaint that players hate Tera's rooting mechanics makes it harder to dodge in PvP.

Just to clarify, there's a huge difference between an actual dodge mechanic and using a defensive cooldown to avoid an attack.

another diff in combat is you dont have tanks in gw2 so someone really shouldnt b taking a hit for u in gw2 unless they are using one of the few defensive CDs 

Originally posted by gr0und3d

Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Wow, who can argue with such "facts?"   GW2 fans make me laugh.  And why are you telling Nadya to move along when she's the one posting on a thread about the game that SHE wants to play?  Shouldn't you be the one moving along, since you're the one doing the hijacking?  

Seriously, don't you folks have anywhere to go yet?  

Well, Anet cares so much for their fans that they have a forum for their players to chat in.

http://www.guildwars2.com/en/

 

O WAIT!

they are working on official forums right now i believe 

and doesnt tera have its own forums so y r u here?

I actually think that Tera looks like it would be a bunch of fun.  However, I have a personal aversion to subscriptions so I won't be playing it.  I hope Tera does do well though because I think a lot of people could get a lot of enjoyment out of it.  If I didn't have such issues with subscriptions, this one and TSW would be among the top 3 games I want to play this year.

Originally posted by SuperXero89

Originally posted by corpusc

Originally posted by SuperXero89

To the casual observer, it really seems as if TERA fans are going through a bit of an inferiority complex right now.  We're nearing close to TERA's launch, but with GW2 beta on the horizon

....snip....

matter is that people are drawn to Guild Wars 2 because of the game itself, not  exaggerated claims by GW2 fans.  The game speaks for itself and doesn't need an army of fans

...snip....

 if it was worthy of such wannabe hype, it would have it.

lol   you are far from a casual observer when you try to start a GW2 hype vs. Tera hype pissing contest..

you say GW2 speaks for itself and doesn't need an army of fans, ...... so why are you holding up the GW2 banner and speaking for it right now?  lol

 

also you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.  saying it has no hype, when the exact thing you are talking about IS the Tera hype thats going on right now....which you are now a part of.

 

the rest sounds like typical fanboy cliches, and typical Korea hating cliches, so stop being a double talking hypocrite.   

I shouldn't have to explain simple concepts in post #2 that I explained in post number #1. Your ignorance is exacerbated by the fact that you claim I ever said Guild Wars 2 has no hype.   This thread isn't about GW2.  I won't go on about it. TERA is the game that has no hype.  That is why threads like this exist -- to validate the opinions of TERA fans and to make them feel better that no one is hyping the launch of their game quite like other games were hyped in the past.  

Then you go on about typical Korea hating cliches.  I'm sure South Korea is a great country.  I'm not sure why you think I would hate an entire country based on my feelings about a video game, which I don't even hate either.  If you are referring to my feelings about Korean MMORPGs, then yes, I find that you're ignorant if you can't see that MMORPGs that come out of South Korea and some from Japan, China, and Malaysia are a bonafide MMO subgenre.  There's nothing in TERA that breaks away from the mold of the typical Korean quest grinder aside from the real time combat which WILL grow stale in about a month.  The fact that you take offense to my comments regarding Korean MMORPGs indicates to me that you are a fan of this type of game which means you are the exact type of niche fan EnMasse hopes to attract. While this means that you will enjoy TERA, this also means that you are most likely incapable of giving an object opinion.

LOL   this is a real doozy of a post.  

1) i never said you said GW2 has no hype

2) i don't care about hype or lack of hype....you're confusing me with YOU, that was YOUR point.  lol

was just showing how you were trying to make a point while disproving your point at the same time

3) glad you can now see this thread isn't about GW2, so maybe you can leave your fanboy battles out of it next time

4) the fact Tera doesn't have A LOT of hype IS PART OF THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD!  how can you miss THAT?  lol

5) if people were always talking about YOUR countries MMOs and saying how terrible they were, and stupid they were, you wouldn't take offense?  hmmmmm

6) you say there's nothing about it that breaks away from your stereotype (except for combat) , while in your previous message you also admitted it wasn't a grinder, but now you're back to calling it a grinder     lol  

7) like so much of your post, wrong, wrong, wrong, WRONG.  i never played any other Korean MMOs, i'm not Korean, i don't come from Korea, i don't like the art style stereotypers associate with the country      wrong much?

8) you ironically mention objective opinions when you're whole point of being here is so obviously subjective.  you proudly displayed your child-like agenda in your first paragraph

9) you ignored where i mentioned things i didn't like about it, and argued against some key features

Originally posted by chibineko89

Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

I don't want to start a debate over GW2's combat versus Tera because I have not played GW2 and neither have you.  What I can do is link plenty of videos of people of GW2 pvp where people are constantly getting targetted and hit by ranged attacks that would have easily been avoided in Tera.  Yes both GW2 and Tera have a dodge and block mechanic but that doesn't mean that they are both equally useful.

For instance it's possible for a tank in Tera to run to ally and shield block a ranged attack aimed at the ally.  Having played tab targetting based MMOs before, generally a ranged attack meant for that player will in fact hit them even if someone stands in the way to negate the attack.  Can you do that in GW2? I would love to see a video of that happening.  What I can show you is a video of people trying to avoid a ranged attack in GW2 and still getting hit regardless because they are targetted.

Maybe all these GW2 beta testers are just bad and can't dodge properly, or maybe it's just easier to avoid a ranged attack in Tera, which really nullifies the complaint that players hate Tera's rooting mechanics makes it harder to dodge in PvP.

Just to clarify, there's a huge difference between an actual dodge mechanic and using a defensive cooldown to avoid an attack.

another diff in combat is you dont have tanks in gw2 so someone really shouldnt b taking a hit for u in gw2 unless they are using one of the few defensive CDs 

trinity was discussed earlier/another thread.  Tank is anyone taking damage.  Can someone step in front of a homing fireball for a wounded comrade or will it go through them and hit the selected target?

Originally posted by chibineko89

Originally posted by gr0und3d

Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Wow, who can argue with such "facts?"   GW2 fans make me laugh.  And why are you telling Nadya to move along when she's the one posting on a thread about the game that SHE wants to play?  Shouldn't you be the one moving along, since you're the one doing the hijacking?  

Seriously, don't you folks have anywhere to go yet?  

Well, Anet cares so much for their fans that they have a forum for their players to chat in.

http://www.guildwars2.com/en/

 

O WAIT!

they are working on official forums right now i believe 

and doesnt tera have its own forums so y r u here?

 Fighting with GW2 fanbois 

Seriously though, this is fun.  TERA fans would much rather be playing the game right now than fighting about what "sleeper" means and what the difference between pre-programmed static quest and pre-programmed events is.

Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Originally posted by chibineko89

yes go follow that carrot on a stick cause thats what all you hardcore players are good at that and ganking in open world pvp

what ever happened to getting more skillful with your character instead of just getting that next peice of "epic" gear

"ooo my gear score is higher than yours so i must b  a better player than u"/sarcasm

Right, because a game that has aim and fire combat is certainly not skill-based.  Are you high?  

People that think skill means more than gear in TERA are kidding themselves.  Does it mean more than in tab target games?  It could be argued, yes.   But gear is still the number one overriding factor.  TERA is still gear/level based first, skill after that.

Also, is the gap, given equal gear, between the 'skilled' TERA player and the 'average' TERA player bigger than the same two types of payer in WoW?  Remains to be seen, but probably not.  Is the gap between skilled and unskilled player bigger in TERA, yes that one is for sure true.  But average vs. skilled is quite a large gap in WoW.

I think Tera will do pretty ok, it will never be a big hit.

There are quite a few things i love about Tera but there are also some negative points that are quite brutal and shadow some of the good parts.

For a pvp game to have that much difference from only a few levels and gear is crap, it simply is a bad design and Enmasse should have done more on that part imo. It aint fun to be one shoted by ppl 4 lvls higher then you in open world pvp. Its to much power difference.  This is my biggest concern and i think it will manage to piss off alot of people after launch.

But beside that i will get Tera as the combat was very fun, and ill give Tera some credit when it came to alternative ways to level. Dungeon, quest, smal group content is pretty nice. From 20-30 me and my buddie didt do many quests. We didt even get to finish half of the story quests. 

I doubt ill stay long term in Tera, but it will be fun for while atleast.

Originally posted by gr0und3d

Originally posted by chibineko89

Originally posted by BigBadWolfe

I don't want to start a debate over GW2's combat versus Tera because I have not played GW2 and neither have you.  What I can do is link plenty of videos of people of GW2 pvp where people are constantly getting targetted and hit by ranged attacks that would have easily been avoided in Tera.  Yes both GW2 and Tera have a dodge and block mechanic but that doesn't mean that they are both equally useful.

For instance it's possible for a tank in Tera to run to ally and shield block a ranged attack aimed at the ally.  Having played tab targetting based MMOs before, generally a ranged attack meant for that player will in fact hit them even if someone stands in the way to negate the attack.  Can you do that in GW2? I would love to see a video of that happening.  What I can show you is a video of people trying to avoid a ranged attack in GW2 and still getting hit regardless because they are targetted.

Maybe all these GW2 beta testers are just bad and can't dodge properly, or maybe it's just easier to avoid a ranged attack in Tera, which really nullifies the complaint that players hate Tera's rooting mechanics makes it harder to dodge in PvP.

Just to clarify, there's a huge difference between an actual dodge mechanic and using a defensive cooldown to avoid an attack.

another diff in combat is you dont have tanks in gw2 so someone really shouldnt b taking a hit for u in gw2 unless they are using one of the few defensive CDs 

trinity was discussed earlier/another thread.  Tank is anyone taking damage.  Can someone step in front of a homing fireball for a wounded comrade or will it go through them and hit the selected target?

good question i dont know for sure

i went to gw2wiki and got this 

A projectile is a ranged attack which must travel from the user to the target before dealing damage.

Most projectiles can be avoided, blocked, reflected, or intercepted by the environment or other enemies. A few projectiles auto-track the target as it moves. Projectiles will travel further if they are fired from a height.^[1]

Many kinds of projectiles can also be used to finish combos.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by chibineko89

Originally posted by gr0und3d

Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Wow, who can argue with such "facts?"   GW2 fans make me laugh.  And why are you telling Nadya to move along when she's the one posting on a thread about the game that SHE wants to play?  Shouldn't you be the one moving along, since you're the one doing the hijacking?  

Seriously, don't you folks have anywhere to go yet?  

Well, Anet cares so much for their fans that they have a forum for their players to chat in.

http://www.guildwars2.com/en/

 

O WAIT!

they are working on official forums right now i believe 

and doesnt tera have its own forums so y r u here?

 Fighting with GW2 fanbois 

Seriously though, this is fun.  TERA fans would much rather be playing the game right now than fighting about what "sleeper" means and what the difference between pre-programmed static quest and pre-programmed events is.

i love the smilies on this site

wowz pages and pages of trolling carebear action

tera will be great until b&s or archeage takes its place for me.  y'all have waaayy too much time on your hands to be arguing "video games" the way that you do.  but hey if it's for the lolz...

Originally posted by Jessina

Originally posted by Nadya3

Originally posted by Castran

TERA failed in Korea and it'll do the same here. The Secret World has a better chance at being successful, meanwhile Guild Wars 2 will be a guaranteed hit.

that is 100 % false.  in fact Tera is  the number 3 most played MMO in korea , a year after.

 

 

Fact: You do not know that GW2 will not be a hit (Your 100% false is 100% false)

Another Fact...GW2 isn't released yet and this isn't Korea.

Let me give you an OPINION that has a 99.9%chance of becoming a Fact: GW2 will be the next King of MMOs.

If I am wrong then the 0.1% chance came true.

Move along now.

 

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Where is everyone discussing Tera supposed to "Move along now" to? 

Dont get off track now, This thread is not about wether the game is fun or not. Its about wether or not its sleepy

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Dont get off track now, This thread is not about wether the game is fun or not. Its about wether or not its sleepy

I could have sworn it was another GW2 is better than everything else thread.