Instead of arguing why GW2 will be the best and why Tera will fail, shouldn't we really be rejoicing? The more MMOs that are released, the more CHOICES we have as MMO players. Some people are sure to enjoy what Tera has to offer, and others will enjoy GW2, SWTOR, WoW, The Secret World etc. I don't understand the constant bickering about which game is better than which. Technically, no game is really better than the other as it all comes down to personal preference.

Well, Tera is the only game I'm actually excited for but primarily becasue there is a lot that is a bit more old school. Having said that, I doubt it will be a sleeper hit. More like a game that attracts a die hard niche audience.

Originally posted by LESTATx75

Instead of arguing why GW2 will be the best and why Tera will fail, shouldn't we really be rejoicing? The more MMOs that are released, the more CHOICES we have as MMO players. Some people are sure to enjoy what Tera has to offer, and others will enjoy GW2, SWTOR, WoW, The Secret World etc. I don't understand the constant bickering about which game is better than which. Technically, no game is really better than the other as it all comes down to personal preference.

good post

2012 is looking to be a good year for mmo choices

Originally posted by teakbois

Originally posted by BigBadWolfe


On topic, Tera will fail or succeed based solely on if En Masse plans to market their game or not. As much as forum trolls swear their uninformed opinions matter, they don't.

 

Rift has had an enormous marketing push, is more of a broad appeal game, and has closed over 2/3rds of their servers after one year.  Marketing only works if the game is something people will want to pay, and based on the list I gave above  think the appeal is very limited.  TERA wont fail, but it wont be over 200k subs by this time next year.

Gave it a shot, and it indeed was a major sleeper.

I hear Nembutal takes Tera to fall asleep.

Originally posted by NBlitz

Any other TERA fans getting sick of following the TERA forums? It's the same folks, same crap but different day.

 

I CANNOT WAIT until the lot of you disappear into GW2 and forget about this niche title. Niche title but loved by its fan base.

I've gone from title to title and discussed the one I left during that time but never to the extent some of you have and still are. 

 

You're kidding yourself if you think you're discussing anything. What you're doing is trying to put down others for their preferences. To make yourself feel better because you're a wretch.

There's nothing niche about it.

If anything, it's pretty mainstream.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

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Originally posted by BadSpock
Even if TERA turns out to be an amazing game play experience, it will not be a "sleeper hit" due simply to the fact that the IP will turn many people off and it isn't from a well known western publisher.
Sad but true.

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What about the IP will turn many people off?

Rift isnt from a well known publisher and it has done quite well in the past year.

Hopefully, your subsequent posts are a little less sad and a little more truth.

Really don't want to get into the whole... Elin whatever debate all over again.

yes all these boring grind and quests "go kill 10 mobs that stand near quest giver" made me fall asleep

Originally posted by BizkitNL

Originally posted by NBlitz

Any other TERA fans getting sick of following the TERA forums? It's the same folks, same crap but different day.

 

I CANNOT WAIT until the lot of you disappear into GW2 and forget about this niche title. Niche title but loved by its fan base.

I've gone from title to title and discussed the one I left during that time but never to the extent some of you have and still are. 

 

You're kidding yourself if you think you're discussing anything. What you're doing is trying to put down others for their preferences. To make yourself feel better because you're a wretch.

There's nothing niche about it.

If anything, it's pretty mainstream.

You cannot play TERA by mouse-clicking your skills. What kind of effect do you think that will have on the regular MMO gamer?

If people don't like it and they have expressed their opinion why keep doing it over and over again. That is the definition of insanity (doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results!)

My opinion.

I like Tera and overall think it is a decent, solid game. It could have been a " sleeper hit of 2011". In 2012 it will be lost in a sea of other releases.

Hopefully for the people that are going to play it will end up with a decent population of fans who play long term.

If they would have went with a different payment model. Say $9.99 a month, cheaper box price, ect they may could capture a larger audience. They are charging full AAA price at a time when other AAA titles are on the horizon in a few weeks/months.

If they would have released in 2011 charging full price may have gone better. This is just my opinion and may be wrong. But with all the other releases coming I just cant see Tera drawing in huge numbers. Niche game probably, nothing wrong with that, just dont expect huge sub numbers in 2012.

Originally posted by jdnewell

My opinion.

I like Tera and overall think it is a decent, solid game. It could have been a " sleeper hit of 2011". In 2012 it will be lost in a sea of other releases.

Hopefully for the people that are going to play it will end up with a decent population of fans who play long term.

If they would have went with a different payment model. Say $9.99 a month, cheaper box price, ect they may could capture a larger audience. They are charging full AAA price at a time when other AAA titles are on the horizon in a few weeks/months.

If they would have released in 2011 charging full price may have gone better. This is just my opinion and may be wrong. But with all the other releases coming I just cant see Tera drawing in huge numbers. Niche game probably, nothing wrong with that, just dont expect huge sub numbers in 2012.

I think you're spot on. Not saying it won't fair well, but the bet would have been safer last year.

There will also be a lot of poeple who try GW2 and don't play it long term. I am wanting to at least try it myself even though I will be playing Tera. I just think people aren't grasping that you will most likely be spending more then $15 a month. That is how cash shops work every model and hasn't changed in decades.

Originally posted by Deron_Barak

Originally posted by deziwright

Past lvl 22 it gets less linear. you have several places to lvl at all times form that point on. Most never got that far in betas but believe me theres plenty to do later on :) Though still. I will admit. They really didnt even need quests in this game. Should have just kept it as a monster hunter game and got rid of a lot of the rpg questing element. Focus on whats great. :)

  I just don't do quests other than the main one hehe.  EME was brilliant in increasing mob xp IMO.  With the combat system the way it is you can just go hunt if you're not high enough to reach the next step in the main story.  I'll probably add guild rep, BAM repeatables and dungeon quests but we'll see.

 There is just too much group content to waste xp on boring side quests.  It actually makes 1-20 not seem so linear.

really?  not doing (most) quests would make me enjoy the game SOOOO much more.

(as it would in LOTRO, SWTOR or ANY game....i hate questgrinding period, just an extra extra-tedious layer ON TOP of the included mob grinding)

when did they increase xp for mobs?

when i was playing it, i felt i'd be missing out on a huge amount of xp (like maybe %40 or so, altho i wasn't too good about watching my XP bar all the time) if i ignored the quests.  

how much xp do you think you'd be missing out on if you ignore quests?

Here is the deal , one person calling others trolls in the forum, Stated GW2 does nothing different , and that Tera is very different.

This is false, they got called on it , and basiclly couldn't argue with the facts,then someone rightly stated well different doesn't equal better. This is a good arguement. But not the original matter of contention.

Lets be honest Tera Could be good, great, bad, ok, or awful. Im personally leaning to ok. I don't care for its combat , its an anti action action combat system (or thats how it feels to me). Beyond that it doesn't change anything from the mmo experince, This is reality. However, its the small things that make mmos enjoyable, so the combination of systems and game experince could make Tera a wonderful game to play, or just the same awful.

The same is true for GW2 it might be very bad. I kind like better equipment to strive for but gw2 doesn't have it (not the tredmill like wow has tho, more like daoc, like every so often / expack there were new better items, but just a bit better and not better items for every item slot). Furthermore, GW2 is acctually doing things different. And honestly if you looked at it with less bias you might like some of the changes (Amazing playability, all content is playable by your character... so you level 52 and your firend is 10 ... no problem go play with him you'll scale down to the zones level and play together, Non-liner experince. You don't follow quest huh to quest hub per say, you just walk off and explore in -> direction  and stuff happens and you effect its outcome, explorable easter eggs; jumping, thinking, fighting puzzles hidden all over).  The game is doing something different, you might not like it, it may suck. But give credit where credit is due.

PS. Just to be fair, i think gw2 ~ equal equipment is lame, i don't care for it. And more so i think generic and jack of all trade classes ARE THE WORST, i feel classes should fit very spefici roles, hybrid are ok but only if they come with pros and cons. (And i like tera's class system, just do not like the combat).

Back to TERA if it wanted to be a big hit removing that action root all together would be a plus in my mind. - Out of my 14 core gaming buddies 7 tried it 5 said nope withint 2 days simply due to that. (Doesn't mean some people will not enjoy it, just that it turns many people off).

Originally posted by NBlitz

Originally posted by Omnifish

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Even if we assmue that is true, we aready have a game like this in the west...it's called DCU <>

DCUO had a wonky block and dodge system, frustrating soft tab target system and was more of a hybrid. Has that changed? Don't lump it with TERA.

So your seriously saying a slightly, 'better', dodge system will keep people playing longer? Even with the quest hubs/ grindo game structure?

Point is, DCU was set up exactly the same way.  People said, 'Oh the combats great and different, that'll keep people playing!', I can tell you this because for my sins I was one of them, but it didn't because the quests/tasks were mindless grinding of mobs, till end game. I can lump Tera in the same bracket for sure, actually DCU at least had a little pay off if you like comicbook cutscenes...

Originally posted by DeserttFoxx

Im sorry, did aion fail? last time i checked it was number 1 in korea.. still is, and tera isnt beating Aion in korea.

Aion certainly succeeded in South Korea.  In the US?  Not so much.

Originally posted by DOGMA1138

TERA will be RIFT 2.0.

Not really.  Why does Rift even exist in the first place?  Extra versatile talent trees?  Less organized public quests?  Other than that, they're basically just trying to polish the same old stuff that has been around for a long, long time.

TERA can at least point to the combat system.  The game might be good or it might not, but at least it has a chance at being something special.  Which is more than can be said for Rift.

Tera has one maybe two good months in it if it launches with the smoothest launch in history and makes zero mistakes.

Otherwise...