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Originally posted by DannyGlover dude just have a look at this thread. Eir_s just posted something about gw2 being awesome without any reasoning on page 2. this thread isnt even about gw2. |
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Magnetia
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Joined: 11/07/11
Any fool can know. The point is to understand. |
4/11/12 1:58:47 AM#42
I think it's just a matter of being critical. I do not like this game BECAUSE - and then present some comparisons, even if it is just personal preference. The most important thing to remember is that you could be one of the mis-informed. I'll use the secret world as an example. I do not like the dungeon aspect of the game, I do not feel they are doing their class system justice by using tank/heals/dps in dungeons while boasting a classless system. I like this game because I think I will enjoy - again, present some points to discuss beyond 'Crafting is cool'. A valid reply could simply be - "I enjoy this crafting because - it gives me good items / it has an interesting material gathering system / it is a nice break from the breakneck speed of the game." Simply saying 'it is cool / lame' is a statement with zero substance. I'll use the secret world again because it's very convenient XD. I love the fact that they are putting in puzzles which require actual research, thinking and puzzle solving. I've always felt that MMOs could tap into a very VERY rich world of tabletop / GM mechanics which could be worked into the genre. This idea is still new and probably needs a lot of work but I would like to see this kind of stuff in future MMOs, but damn it's exciting to see people shun the status quo. Play for fun. Play to win. Play for perfection. Play with friends. Play in another world. Why do you play? |
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4/11/12 3:08:21 AM#43
I quit Guildwars 2 for now im fed up with empty world:(... played:AC-Darktide,AC2-Darktide,L2 and Darkfall.Solo Fav games:Morrowind,DayZ(PLAYING NOW), Skyrim, Bioshock, Age of Empires 2, Soldiers of fortune 2 and many more... |
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Originally posted by Classicstar aventurine probably didnt have enough money to pay the "dont give my game a shit score" fee.
its fairly typical of the media to attack smaller people/companies that cannot defend themselves rather than the big boys. thankgod for media watchdogs, really need one for the mmo industry, all these sites are corrupt. |
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Zillen
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Joined: 9/15/10
I am free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally. |
4/11/12 3:43:46 AM#45
[BROKEN LINK DETECTED. ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL] You argument is invalidated. Do not fear broken links. We are your salvation... ...through destruction.
There is no massive conspiracy waiting in the MMO playerbase. There are no "sleeper-agent fans" waiting to convert once the X or Y is unleashed on the world. |
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4/11/12 3:45:22 AM#46
Originally posted by DannyGlover Plenty of them to find at http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/473/view/hype/read/comments 1237 comments, enjoy the read. :) I maintain this List of Sandbox MMORPGs. Please post or send PM for corrections and suggestions. |
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4/11/12 4:04:14 AM#47
Originally posted by bishbosh So, someone telling he/she loves you is appropriate, but someone insulting you would be appropriate too ? Perspective, people, perspective ... ***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in ***** |
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Originally posted by k-damage someone telling me that they love me can be heaps inaapropriate say if i barelyknow them, they are 50 years older than me and are seeking a sexual relationship, i am married/engages/with someone already. people are different from video games anyway. everyone knows that. |
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4/11/12 4:26:43 AM#49
Originally posted by bishbosh "people telling they love you" in the general meaning of love, not sexual. And no, in term of good manners, how you express an opinion about a product or a people is no different. ***** Before hitting that reply button, please READ the WHOLE thread you're about to post in ***** |
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4/11/12 4:31:22 AM#50
Well, one troll that the public will always buy is how unfair and impartial the news services are. But it's old, dusty crusty old. |
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Adamantine
Elite Member
Joined: 1/07/08
War is not the ultima ratio, but the ultima irratio - Willy Brandt |
4/11/12 8:00:20 AM#51
Originally posted by bishbosh Duh, isnt that obvious ? "This game sucks" is an insult, if you give no reasons. "This game is awesome" isnt, even if you give no reasons.
Originally posted by DannyGlover Uh, I havent kept any links, but that one should really not be very hard, it happens pretty often.
Originally posted by orsonstfu Nope. This rule exists in all forums, not just the ones that want to make money.
Originally posted by Kakkzooka LOL
Originally posted by Eir_S And again I'm getting excluded from humanity.
Originally posted by bishbosh Sincere condolences.
Originally posted by bishbosh Cannot happen with objects, only with people.
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Adalwulff
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Joined: 1/18/10
"I am not the light, or the darkness, but the twilight in between" |
4/11/12 8:11:44 AM#52
Originally posted by bishbosh Because its never just one post, you guys who hate games like GW2, keep making thread after thread trying to convince people of your opinions. I find it hard to believe you dont understand this....lol  |
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4/11/12 9:11:01 AM#53
Originally posted by bishbosh Not sure if this has been mentioned in the replies. Yet it is customary, when making a negative critisism about something to point out the faults that brought to this negative critisism so it can then be addressed or improved. Let me make an example, you see a player fighting in a a battleground, or arena or even a raid, or not even an MMO, you see a baseball player or football player that by their actions gets a great score, killing alone 5 other player or hiting homeruns or being nimble and avoiding to be stoped by others.
Saying "This player is awesome" implies that you are giving positive critique to what they actually just did and the way they did it. There is really not much else that is required to be said. Saying why is optional. If you say "this player sucks", it is customery to say why, for instance, He did not use X skill when Y situation happened so he lost, or he went left when it was obvious he should have gone right, or he missed to hit the ball because he hdid not hold the baseball bat properly. So there is always something required to be said to justify the reasons which made you feel they "sucked"... this way they can learn from it correct it and not "suck" next time, or in the case of a game after a series of patches. The base principle here is that, no one is perfect, everyone makes mistakes, even Devs creating Games, but everyone should have the opportunity to correct their mistakes. A saying goes: It is ok to make mistakes as long as we learn from them, but often we learn from them by others pointing out the reasons. Saying "this game sucks" is similar as saying "you made a mistake", but when you do not say what the mistake was, then how can we expect the person to correct it? Think about it, if your teacher at school handed you your homework with just the grade and without telling you where your mistakes were, how are you going to learn and improve? So the teacher says, "your homework sucks" but they also tell you why. Same applies here too. "This game sucks, because ... " - Duke Suraknar -
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4/11/12 9:13:22 AM#54
if it was said like this:this game is underperforming compared to my expectation!it would probably fly higher .but worded like the op say?some would say it is rude! |
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4/11/12 9:19:30 AM#55
because "this game sucks" is usually followed by "and you're an idiot if you like it." |
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4/11/12 9:20:28 AM#56
Originally posted by jdlamson75 Damn it, that's not appropriate! "How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it." |
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4/11/12 9:28:00 AM#57
my view = fact your view = subjective unless its my view as well.
That is how forum pages work does your game have rainbow sprinkles and magic ponies!? |
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4/11/12 9:32:33 AM#58
Originally posted by Adalwulff This didn't really happen that much prior to some of the cash shop leaks. Before that it was almost universal knowledge on these forums that if you played GW2 long enough you would p*ss beer and sh*it rainbows. Alot of it has to do with how some (not all or even most) of the more hardcore GW2 fans go to other games forums, especially SWTOR prior to release and TERA now and crap all over those games. It brings those games fanbois on over to crap on GW2 as "revenge." Though why someone would need revenge in a game forum, I have no idea. But anyone that couldn't see this coming...I don't really know what to say to them. |
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4/11/12 9:33:18 AM#59
Originally posted by SEANMCAD It was better summed up by the late great George Carlin. "My shit is stuff, your stuff is shit." |
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Originally posted by Adalwulff this thread isnt about gw2. defending "your" game when it is not even being attacked ---- must be some new species of fanboy... |
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