Originally posted by Tardcore

I wish I could find the one with a taruen on a wyvern with his entire inventory piled up on the wyver's back trying to fly.

Originally posted by garretth

Originally posted by KhinRunite

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

Actually, like the OP, I have a very specific preference when it comes to weapons. I like using Bows and Swords exclusively. If the game will require me to swap weapons to maximize my output I guess I'll play a very minor role in PvP or avoid it entirely.

You can use bows and swords with the warrior and the ranger...not sure what else.

Thief can use a sword/dagger combo and use a short bow. That's about it, I think.

Originally posted by nikki9786

Guild Wars 2 skill system is extremely simple.  You get 5 attack skills depending on what weapon you equip.  5 skills sound lame?  Yes it does.  Don't like it?  Swap weapons and get 5 different ones.

Personally, I like to play a warrior with duel swords. I hate clubs and 2he swords and axes, etc. You can do this in GW2, but if I do, I will be stuck with the same 5 skills the whole game.

This is innovation? 

It sounds like GW2 just isnt for you. Can I make some suggestions of other games you may enjoy?

SWTOR's is a brand new game that many enjoy..........though you will only be able to use 1 weapon through your entire career.

Tera is another very popular game you might have heard of.........you again only get 1 weapon your entire game career.

I know The Secret world has a very flexible weapon system, maybe this would suit you.

I'm honestly shocked that trollish  threads like this exist when SWTOR's stick you with a particular light saber for the rest of your characters life.

Anyway's I hope you find a game that you enjoy since GW2 won't work for you. Cheers!

I've seen the videos too.

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ArenaNet has already stated they have a love for eSports, with many of them fans of the MOBA genre.

In games like League of Legends you only get 4 skills, but it's the way you utilise those skills that sets you apart from another player.

The amount of weapon choices and the combinations available is quite large actually, so a thief who has a dagger in his main hand and pistol in his offhand will play differrently to a thief who has a pistol in his mainhand and a dagger in his offhand.

Not sure what people are complaining about. Personally, I prefer having 5 weapon skills and 5 utility skills opposed to having 3 bars of hotkeys to memorize.

Originally posted by nikki9786

Guild Wars 2 skill system is extremely simple.  You get 5 attack skills depending on what weapon you equip.  5 skills sound lame?  Yes it does.  Don't like it?  Swap weapons and get 5 different ones.

Personally, I like to play a warrior with duel swords. I hate clubs and 2he swords and axes, etc. You can do this in GW2, but if I do, I will be stuck with the same 5 skills the whole game.

This is innovation? 

I'm not sure why you made this post, did you get lost on your way to TSW forums and get confused? I'm sure in that game you'll be able to use you 7 active and 7 passive skills and only a sword to your heart's content.

Originally posted by Rednecksith

Originally posted by Volkon

Originally posted by Rednecksith

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

God forbid people might want to specialize, or might not like the look of a weapon type.

Let me warn you right now, if you want to specialize, this is the wrong game. EVERYTHING about GW2 screams against specialization and leans heavily towards flexibility and balance. You can't be a pure tank/heal/dps type... instead you'll equip skills that do any combination of support, control and damage (usually more than one aspect). You can't stick with only one weapon type, attunement, etc. and be able to play to your full capabilities. Specialists will fail, and fail hard.

Then that's back-asswards game design. Specialization should be just as viable as being a 'jack of all trades' type. If I want my thief to use dual pistols exclusively, I should be able to do so. In fact, I should be able to specialize into them to the point where more generalist characters can't use them as well as I do (which is the whole point behind specialization). The trade-off would be that I lose some utility afforded by other weapons. 

Bottom line is, both playstyles should be viable. Arenanet may have gotten rid of the trinity, but they're still forcing people to play the game a certain way. It's the classic 'illusion' of freedom.

I'd be willing to bet that if you want to only use dual pistols, you'd end up being better at using dual pistols than most other players.  However, you probably wouldn't be as effective overall if you only used the pistols.  So, it's not an "illusion" of freedom.  You have the freedom to do what you want.  Some choices (like in any free system) are just better than others.

I've played quite a few RPG style games over the years and have found that using only one weapon, no matter how good it is, tends to be a handicap.  In almost all cases, it's good to have different weapons and skills to use to fit certain situations.

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I've seen the videos too.

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Well, at least you have your combat rotations down. See you in WvW and I expect to see you hitting those buttons in that exact order.

@OP - you're seriously complaining about having choices?  Makes me wonder what you would think about not having choices....or maybe you like that.

Originally posted by Rednecksith

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

God forbid people might want to specialize, or might not like the look of a weapon type.

It's not about "God forbid" anything. The game is designed a specific way. It appeals to some, to some it doesn't. If it doesn't appeal to you, don't play it. End of story. Nothing more to talk about.

And FYI, you have more than 5 skills, the first 5 are dedicated to your weapon, the rest you can change. Exactly how this is a problem is beyond me, considering that in every single MMO out, you pretty much use the same 5 skills over and over and over and over again anyway with an occasion tap at utility skills in another bar. My mesmer will be Staff predominantly. He'll have a scepter for those cases when the group could use the support skills it comes with, but otherwise it's all about staff for me, and what I'll be using 90% of the time. Sounds just dandy to me.

Originally posted by nikki9786

Guild Wars 2 skill system is extremely simple.  You get 5 attack skills depending on what weapon you equip.  5 skills sound lame?  Yes it does.  Don't like it?  Swap weapons and get 5 different ones.

Personally, I like to play a warrior with duel swords. I hate clubs and 2he swords and axes, etc. You can do this in GW2, but if I do, I will be stuck with the same 5 skills the whole game.

This is innovation? 

Duel swords or dual swords?

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

I've seen the videos too.

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Just because you see people doing that, doesnt mean its the way the game plays... im sure you could 'get by' spamming 1 skill, but that will drastically prolong combat and youre only diservicing yourself by not switching it up and LEARNING your profession.

Most people are jumping into GW2 Demos and Betas with WoW or EQ as their main MMO experience.  Also, Conventions are Noisy, Crowded and theres a lot going on around the people playing the demos, I think you can forgive them for not reading every single skills purpose or not knowing how a certain profession functions. They just want to use their 15 minutes to explore and play the game...

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

That sounds horribly tedious, and I hope its not accurate.

Well, yeah, so although its been said, it seems like you would more prefer a game like The Secret World with their way of doing skills "The Skill Wheel."

Please watch to learn more:

The Secret World (US) Dev Diary: Skill Wheel - YouTube

Hope it helps if more to your liking... although i don't believe you can dual wield swords in this game....

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Originally posted by Golelorn

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

That sounds horribly tedious, and I hope its not accurate.

No more so than expecting a mage to cast ice spells on a fire monster and fire spells on an ice monster.

Originally posted by VassagoMael

Originally posted by Golelorn

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

That sounds horribly tedious, and I hope its not accurate.

No more so than expecting a mage to cast ice spells on a fire monster and fire spells on an ice monster.

.... so thats where i have been messing up...

@Rednecksith: That's what the trait system is for.  I don't know what nonsense that guy before you was spouting, but you CAN specialize to a major extent. Even so, the downside of specialization rings truer in guild wars because there are going to be times where you'll feel the pain of the weakness to your specialization. I.E. You might be great with swords, but that's not going to help you kill the guy on the keep walls. So even if you are specialized you'll still have to mix things up from time to time. I think that's fine because honestly, because while you may be lacking in those moments you aren't specialized in, you'll be fantastic when the fights suit your spec.

Originally posted by nikki9786

Guild Wars 2 skill system is extremely simple.  You get 5 attack skills depending on what weapon you equip.  5 skills sound lame?  Yes it does.  Don't like it?  Swap weapons and get 5 different ones.

Personally, I like to play a warrior with duel swords. I hate clubs and 2he swords and axes, etc. You can do this in GW2, but if I do, I will be stuck with the same 5 skills the whole game.

This is innovation? 

Unfortanly that is how the game is set.  I can see where you are coming from. I have not played the game myself yet, though I have heard it really works. 

oh, and at the end, when you say "THis is innovation?".. that kinda makes you seem trollish, like you are looking for a fight. So, is it Innovation? It is how they set up their game, what do you want people to say?

Originally posted by VassagoMael

Originally posted by Golelorn

Originally posted by heartless

If you're not swapping weapons, you're playing the game wrong.

That sounds horribly tedious, and I hope its not accurate.

No more so than expecting a mage to cast ice spells on a fire monster and fire spells on an ice monster.

Are we talking swapping weapons mid-fight, or for the occasion?

I can handle for the occasion, but not swapping 3 different sets of weapons in one fight.

Looks like the GW2 fans got a little stumped on this thread.  I do agree though, I'm only a fan of the bow and greatsword.  However being a ranger will allow me to utilize them well with swapping, longbow at a range and slice them into pieces when they get close with greatsword.  I can see that someone with a singular weapon preference would be angered by this, and in no way is it innovation, but regardless it will provide extremely interactive experience.