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  Aori

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4/10/12 12:49:37 AM#41
Originally posted by robgyorgy

well im asking about the walmart pc without buying a psu for it. i wanna use it as is till i get this 1 from newegg. will that be fine for a week or so?

Safest option is to get a new psu, ask yourself if it is worth the risk of ruining the money you just spent on the pc. From reviews in the past people have had alot of issues with boot ups and crashed with walmart pc's equiped with high powered GPUs.

  Aori

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4/10/12 12:50:32 AM#42
Originally posted by bishbosh
Originally posted by garretth

Hubby just built this for me:

I5 2500k CPU

ASUS P8Z68 - V/GEN3 Motherboard

16GB 1600 MHZ Memory (Cosair)

MSI 7850 twin frozr Video card

Cosair Force GT SSD (running Intel smart response technology)

Western Digital 1TB hard drive

750 W Cosair PSU

LG Blu Ray optical drive

ANTEC P280 case

Windows 7 64bit

 

What do you guys think...seems to run very fast, is very quiet and makes SWTOR look good!

 

 

 

 

this is actually a very nice build.

the 750 PSU is overkill for single GPU. 650 should be fine with plenty of headroom for overclocking.

16gb memory also seems overkill unless you run apps which need that much. 

If they paid 1600 for it they got robbed..

  GorgeHall

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4/10/12 12:51:28 AM#43

Ya  I think there will be no problem in using it. Well it also depend when you are planning to buy new one too. For short term there will absolutely be no problem.

 

 

 

  robgyorgy

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OP  4/10/12 12:53:51 AM#44
Originally posted by GorgeHall

Ya  I think there will be no problem in using it. Well it also depend when you are planning to buy new one too. For short term there will absolutely be no problem.

 

 

 

planning on buying as soon as i get a build that im happy with performance and price wise (that means today)^_^ i think the limit shud be around where u stated it. 1100-1200 for now. and later down the road ill build my monster gaming pc (september!!!!! cant wait ^_^)

 

  garretth

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4/10/12 12:57:59 AM#45
Originally posted by bishbosh
Originally posted by garretth

Hubby just built this for me:

I5 2500k CPU

ASUS P8Z68 - V/GEN3 Motherboard

16GB 1600 MHZ Memory (Cosair)

MSI 7850 twin frozr Video card

Cosair Force GT SSD (running Intel smart response technology)

Western Digital 1TB hard drive

750 W Cosair PSU

LG Blu Ray optical drive

ANTEC P280 case

Windows 7 64bit

 

What do you guys think...seems to run very fast, is very quiet and makes SWTOR look good!

 

 

 

 

this is actually a very nice build.

the 750 PSU is overkill for single GPU. 650 should be fine with plenty of headroom for overclocking.

16gb memory also seems overkill unless you run apps which need that much. 


Hubby says that he knows that it is overkill but this powersupply operates at 92% efficiency at 50% load and runs very quietly at that load.  :)  

System is so quiet it's hard to know if its on...

  Quizzical

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4/10/12 12:59:33 AM#46
Originally posted by bishbosh

i dont agree with your case+PSU choice. never skimp on these because they will last you many upgrades to come. 

i would try and get a hd7000 series GPU btw and the best budget CPU cooler is the coolermaster hyper 212. dont get the xigmatek. if you are looking to get a higher end CPU cooler get a noctua d14 or a thermalright silver arrow.

First off, let's realize that if you add more than $10, you're going over budget, so you'd have to cut back somewhere else.

The case is appropriate for a $1000 gaming machine:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060

Some high end video cards won't fit, but it can accommodate anything else nicely.  Three case fans of 120 mm or larger sizes are included, which means plenty of airflow.  If there's a need for more airflow in the future, then there is room to mount three more fans.

I think you're absolutely nuts to criticize the power supply choice on a $1000 budget.  It's not some random piece of junk.  It's Super Flower's gold platform.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=266

It features very good energy efficiency, excellent transient overshoot results, excellent voltage regulation, pretty good ripple suppression, and high quality internal components.  650 W is more than enough for any modern single GPU gaming rig.  So it's not modular and it doesn't come with the fanciest packaging.  So what?  Find something better (or even not markedly worse) for the same price and then we can talk.

For the CPU cooler, I really just wanted something cheap that was a lot better than the stock cooler.  A lot better than the stock cooler isn't a high bar, so I mostly went for cheap with the combo deal.  The Noctua and Thermalright coolers that you list are nice, sure.  But you don't get an $80 cooler on a $1000 budget.

The trouble with a Radeon HD 7000 series card is that it's not as good on a price/performance basis as a clearance deal on Barts.  A Radeon HD 7770 only saves you $10 before rebate and is $20 more expensive after rebate, while being about 20% slower.  A Radeon HD 7850 costs $97 more before rebate while only being about 20% faster.  Once Barts and Juniper disappear, we'll see prices on Pitcairn and Cape Verde fall, and then they'll be a better value for the money.  But that hasn't happened yet.

  Quizzical

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4/10/12 1:02:00 AM#47
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i want that corsair 500r case(white)

Nice case, sure.  But look what it costs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

That adds $100 to the price tag as compared to the Rosewill Challenger that I linked.  For that matter, it's even more expensive than the full tower case I linked in the first build.

  Quizzical

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4/10/12 1:03:21 AM#48
Originally posted by bishbosh
Originally posted by garretth

Hubby just built this for me:

I5 2500k CPU

ASUS P8Z68 - V/GEN3 Motherboard

16GB 1600 MHZ Memory (Cosair)

MSI 7850 twin frozr Video card

Cosair Force GT SSD (running Intel smart response technology)

Western Digital 1TB hard drive

750 W Cosair PSU

LG Blu Ray optical drive

ANTEC P280 case

Windows 7 64bit

 

What do you guys think...seems to run very fast, is very quiet and makes SWTOR look good!

 

 

 

 

this is actually a very nice build.

the 750 PSU is overkill for single GPU. 650 should be fine with plenty of headroom for overclocking.

16gb memory also seems overkill unless you run apps which need that much. 

It's a nice computer.  It's also not relevant to a $1000 build.  $1600 spent wisely (or even spent not really all that stupidly) gets you something nicer than you can fit in a $1000 build.

  robgyorgy

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OP  4/10/12 1:05:28 AM#49
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i want that corsair 500r case(white)

Nice case, sure.  But look what it costs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

That adds $100 to the price tag as compared to the Rosewill Challenger that I linked.  For that matter, it's even more expensive than the full tower case I linked in the first build.

so if i go to a 1100-1300 budget. what could i get to make it decently better?(as off from the very first build u gave me) is the corsair a good case for the buck?will it be worth the investment?

  Quizzical

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4/10/12 1:06:40 AM#50
Originally posted by garretth


Hubby says that he knows that it is overkill but this powersupply operates at 92% efficiency at 50% load and runs very quietly at that load.  :)  

System is so quiet it's hard to know if its on...

Not many power supplies can hit 92% efficiency at around 120 V; that's the threshold for 80 PLUS Platinum certification.  Corsair's AX and HX series can sometimes touch around 90%, but not 92%.  None of their others can come anywhere near 90% efficiency.  If you live somewhere that the input voltage is 230 V or so, then that adds some to the energy efficiency.

  garretth

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4/10/12 1:06:47 AM#51
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by bishbosh
Originally posted by garretth

Hubby just built this for me:

I5 2500k CPU

ASUS P8Z68 - V/GEN3 Motherboard

16GB 1600 MHZ Memory (Cosair)

MSI 7850 twin frozr Video card

Cosair Force GT SSD (running Intel smart response technology)

Western Digital 1TB hard drive

750 W Cosair PSU

LG Blu Ray optical drive

ANTEC P280 case

Windows 7 64bit

 

What do you guys think...seems to run very fast, is very quiet and makes SWTOR look good!

 

 

 

 

this is actually a very nice build.

the 750 PSU is overkill for single GPU. 650 should be fine with plenty of headroom for overclocking.

16gb memory also seems overkill unless you run apps which need that much. 

It's a nice computer.  It's also not relevant to a $1000 build.  $1600 spent wisely (or even spent not really all that stupidly) gets you something nicer than you can fit in a $1000 build.

Agreed...was interested in opinions...sorry if was the wrong post for that.

  Aori

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4/10/12 1:07:44 AM#52
Originally posted by robgyorgy
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i want that corsair 500r case(white)

Nice case, sure.  But look what it costs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

That adds $100 to the price tag as compared to the Rosewill Challenger that I linked.  For that matter, it's even more expensive than the full tower case I linked in the first build.

so if i go to a 1100-1300 budget. what could i get to make it decently better?(as off from the very first build u gave me) is the corsair a good case for the buck?will it be worth the investment?

The case is good if your PC is always in plain sight and you want it to match decor, otherwise its a little more spacey, little easier to work with but not enough to justify the costs. As for your price it would all invest to a GPU which IMO would be the wisest choice.

  robgyorgy

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OP  4/10/12 1:11:44 AM#53
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by robgyorgy
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i want that corsair 500r case(white)

Nice case, sure.  But look what it costs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

That adds $100 to the price tag as compared to the Rosewill Challenger that I linked.  For that matter, it's even more expensive than the full tower case I linked in the first build.

so if i go to a 1100-1300 budget. what could i get to make it decently better?(as off from the very first build u gave me) is the corsair a good case for the buck?will it be worth the investment?

The case is good if your PC is always in plain sight and you want it to match decor, otherwise its a little more spacey, little easier to work with but not enough to justify the costs. As for your price it would all invest to a GPU which IMO would be the wisest choice.

i do care a LITTLE for how the case looks but what attracted me to it was the removable dust filters(which i wanna thicken btw for extra dust catching as my appartment oddly gathers dust around alot)

  Quizzical

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4/10/12 1:13:20 AM#54
Originally posted by robgyorgy
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i want that corsair 500r case(white)

Nice case, sure.  But look what it costs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

That adds $100 to the price tag as compared to the Rosewill Challenger that I linked.  For that matter, it's even more expensive than the full tower case I linked in the first build.

so if i go to a 1100-1300 budget. what could i get to make it decently better?(as off from the very first build u gave me) is the corsair a good case for the buck?will it be worth the investment?

It's getting late, so I'm not going to do another new build tonight.  Rather, I'll just say, pick your priorities, mix and match parts from the two builds I linked, and maybe consider an intermediate video card, depending on how much you want to spend.  Some options that are a decent enough value for the money in their price ranges:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102986

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130620

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102981

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127567

  Quizzical

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4/10/12 1:16:32 AM#55
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i do care a LITTLE for how the case looks but what attracted me to it was the removable dust filters(which i wanna thicken btw for extra dust catching as my appartment oddly gathers dust around alot)

You don't need to spend $140 on a case to get removable dust filters.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129180

I don't know if the Rosewill cases have dust filters or not.  You could look into it.  The combo deal with the power supply takes $20 off the price tag, which makes a big difference.

  Aori

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4/10/12 1:17:23 AM#56
Originally posted by robgyorgy
Originally posted by Aori
Originally posted by robgyorgy
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i want that corsair 500r case(white)

Nice case, sure.  But look what it costs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

That adds $100 to the price tag as compared to the Rosewill Challenger that I linked.  For that matter, it's even more expensive than the full tower case I linked in the first build.

so if i go to a 1100-1300 budget. what could i get to make it decently better?(as off from the very first build u gave me) is the corsair a good case for the buck?will it be worth the investment?

The case is good if your PC is always in plain sight and you want it to match decor, otherwise its a little more spacey, little easier to work with but not enough to justify the costs. As for your price it would all invest to a GPU which IMO would be the wisest choice.

i do care a LITTLE for how the case looks but what attracted me to it was the removable dust filters(which i wanna thicken btw for extra dust catching as my appartment oddly gathers dust around alot)

Dust filters are great and all you can even makeshift your own for cheaper but they shouldnt be a 50dollar reason to buy a case. If you want it because of aesthetics then go for it, i honestly went thru a similar thing where i really fell in love with the simplicity and design of the carbide cases. Then i woke up and realised i can put that money to something that makes a difference.

I got a $44 shellshocker rosewill case which turned out to be exactly what i needed, it has almost everything a premium case has to offer. Also if you don't have an air compressor get an electric air blower if they're onsale, just when you use air to clean dust make sure to stop fan rotations so you don't break any bearings. Filters aren't going to stop PCs from getting dusty they may slow it down but its going to happen.

  Aori

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4/10/12 1:19:00 AM#57
Originally posted by Quizzical
Originally posted by robgyorgy

i do care a LITTLE for how the case looks but what attracted me to it was the removable dust filters(which i wanna thicken btw for extra dust catching as my appartment oddly gathers dust around alot)

You don't need to spend $140 on a case to get removable dust filters.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129180

I don't know if the Rosewill cases have dust filters or not.  You could look into it.  The combo deal with the power supply takes $20 off the price tag, which makes a big difference.

Only the front fan has foam filters, the others do not.

  Quizzical

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Joined: 12/11/08
Posts: 13109

4/10/12 1:19:52 AM#58

You don't need dust filters for exhaust fans.

  robgyorgy

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Joined: 3/18/08
Posts: 108

 
OP  4/10/12 1:25:09 AM#59
Originally posted by Quizzical

You don't need dust filters for exhaust fans.

k heres the only thing i need help with and i will buy it right now

from the very First build u made me. can u cut 300-400$ off on that build to make it a decent pc? and i will add it to cart and buy it

 

or add 200 $ or so to the 2nd build whichever is eazier :P

 

and i apolagize for all the confusion i just wanna do this right :)

  Aori

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Joined: 1/28/06
Posts: 1745

4/10/12 1:28:51 AM#60
Originally posted by robgyorgy
Originally posted by Quizzical

You don't need dust filters for exhaust fans.

k heres the only thing i need help with and i will buy it right now

from the very First build u made me. can u cut 300-400$ off on that build to make it a decent pc? and i will add it to cart and buy it

 

or add 200 $ or so to the 2nd build whichever is eazier :P

 

and i apolagize for all the confusion i just wanna do this right :)

For the second build change the gpu to a Sapphire 7870

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