Originally posted by Monorojo

Based on some random beta videos at that, stating the game has close to no faults and is the 2nd coming of the messaih?

 

That is just really really wierd to me. It seems like these people are in an alternate universe, where this fantasy that Guild Wars is the perfect game is actually a reality.

I agree.

Just check ops post history.

The new EA/Bioware music division

edit - the fat lady is singing just out of frame to the left.

people assume it plays as well as the videos show. If it does it will be awesome...so no i do not find it odd.

I do not understand how most of you get baited so easily.

OP it looks like your opinion is that it is P2W, you have stated this and also that you will not be touching it, so why even create a bait thread.

If this makes you sleep at night, by all means go for it. But to do it out of just sheer hatered its pretty horrible.

I knwo this is the internet but it does show somewhat of your character, please try to be a better person and maybe respect other's opinion as I respect that you opinion maybe right that it will be P2W, however this we will find out only when everything is on the table.

Originally posted by Cthulhu23

Originally posted by Lexin

Fans have been saying it about a lot of MMO's but in this case it might be true.

That's what they said about all the others, too.   

I still think GW1 is an amazing game so I would expect GW2 to be much better. So I'm going with them making it much better then GW1.

Originally posted by atziluth

Originally posted by bigsmiff

That's my point. No one knows about that kind of stuff. But, people push it as fact when it is pure speculation.

There is one major difference that I have seen. GW2 during the press weekends has allowed pretty much unfettered video of gameplay which includes bugs, glitches, and some of the raw points of GW2 beta right now. Now there is a ton of content which we don't know if the quality will be the same as what we have seen, but what has been shown so far by mainstream and bloggers alike has been impressive. 

Time will tell if GW2 is a run away hit, but some straight shooting VG bloggers I trust through past experience have all been blown away. Not just mildly surprised or satisfied, but hand down blown away. It is something new so the shine will dull to a certain extent, but there is enough footage right now (literally days worth) that even the most conservative critic would say hints at something solid. 

It has been a long time since something "solid" has come out in the MMO industry. The game will not be for everyone, but for what it is, most are saying it at the very least does it well. 

Why can't more people on this site give a respectful, civil response like this?

/tiphat

EQ1 was an amazing ground breaking game, EQ2 not so much, just because there is a 2 after it doesnt mean its gonig to be better then the first.

Originally posted by Monorojo

Originally posted by castamir11

Why do people turn to insulting SWTOR on a thread about GW2?

You would think they would have learned from the hype that game recieved (which is not even close to the current hype GW2 is getting) that they are setting themselves up for a hard smack across the face by reality REEEEAAAALLLY soon.

LOL this post is comming from someone who's most famous statement was "Why do people say if you like WoW you'll love Warhammer ....I hate Wow and I love Warhammer "

Originally posted by atziluth

Originally posted by bigsmiff

That's my point. No one knows about that kind of stuff. But, people push it as fact when it is pure speculation.

There is one major difference that I have seen. GW2 during the press weekends has allowed pretty much unfettered video of gameplay which includes bugs, glitches, and some of the raw points of GW2 beta right now. Now there is a ton of content which we don't know if the quality will be the same as what we have seen, but what has been shown so far by mainstream and bloggers alike has been impressive. 

Time will tell if GW2 is a run away hit, but some straight shooting VG bloggers I trust through past experience have all been blown away. Not just mildly surprised or satisfied, but hand down blown away. It is something new so the shine will dull to a certain extent, but there is enough footage right now (literally days worth) that even the most conservative critic would say hints at something solid. 

It has been a long time since something "solid" has come out in the MMO industry. The game will not be for everyone, but for what it is, most are saying it at the very least does it well. 

This poster has probably responded with one of the most intellegent responses in the thread. At the very least, he's paid attention to his topic.

I haven't tried to verify his claims, but I have to believe he's not far off. It's a pretty compelling arguement. And I'm only mildly interested in GW2.

Originally posted by Probert

EQ1 was an amazing ground breaking game, EQ2 not so much, just because there is a 2 after it doesnt mean its gonig to be better then the first.

Talking about SOE so doesn't count.

Now you can say FFXIV also but they did a complete 360 from XI. Yeah FFXIV sucked for the longest but it has improved XI on the other hand has been a great game since day 1.

For some of us, the details of the game's design, how it was designed and why it was designed the way it has been designed are the real meat of why the game looks to be great. Videos just give us a glimpse at how well the phenominal design, on paper, appears to be translating into an actual game. So far? So good.

FACT: 99% of MMO's are awesome before you play them.

just a repeat of any AAA mmorpg with a great word of mouth does.

GW2 is the next Warhammer...cept im sure wont fail that bad lol. Though honestly we will never know if gw2 will fail. because they dont have a monthly sub to go by.

Originally posted by drakes821

FACT: 99% of MMO's are awesome before you play them.

^^QFT

But I still plan on pre-ordering the CE tomarrow

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Why can't more people on this site give a respectful, civil response like this?

/tiphat

Because most people don't have that much self control, and Monorojo has sort of pre-riled some people up.

If somebody wants a higher ratio of respectful, civil responses, one of the keys is to make sure that all your topics and posts tend towards that yourself.  Also, if you're complaining about hyperbole, it helps if you have less hyperbole yourself.  Picking out the most vocally enthusiastic fans and then painting that as the standard person only tends towards more angry replies from said vocally enthusiastic fans, and the quieter, more laid back ones just shaking their head and avoiding the topic for milder climes.

Even if you think people are raving, delusional fanboy lunatics with poor impulse control, it's more polite to not say it in quite such explicit terms.

I think the whole tone of this forum could be raised a few notches by people on both sides really stepping up their A-game on being polite, but I don't think it's going to happen!  People bait, and people counter-bait, and people counter-counter-bait, and quite frankly, some people have become complete masters of baiting. :(

Originally posted by drakes821

FACT: 99% of MMO's are awesome before you play them.

I am finding this to be eerily true.

Originally posted by Monorojo

Originally posted by Fion

Originally posted by Monorojo

Based on some random beta videos at that, stating the game has close to no faults and is the 2nd coming of the messaih?

 

That is just really really wierd to me. It seems like these people are in an alternate universe, where this fantasy that Guild Wars is the perfect game is actually a reality.

 

Some of us, you know, have actaully played the game.

Corection, you played the beta where the content you  experiened was controlled by Anet. Saying your limited playtime in beta is basis to claim the entire game will be amazing is, again, laughable at best.

The videos, pictures, presentations etc etc look pretty damn good.  In fact they look incredibly awesome.  The only people talking about the game being the messiah is people claiming others are.  Which they are not.   In your sarcastic, pessimestic little universe all GW2 fans are insane.  Which they are not. 

How do you know the game IS NOT going to live up to those expectations?  How do you know the game is NOT going to be good?  What evidence do you really have of that?  Because the fans themselves have loads of evidence to the contrary. 

Ive hardly read one single fan post of anyone saying the game is perfect, and that it has no flaws.  Thats in your own mind and the mind of every single dissenter saying the game isnt going to "be all that great".   Its because you somehow think its cool and smart to be the super neato Fonzie cool guy wearing sun shades in the corner of the dance looking cool and miserable while everyone else parties and has fun, meanwhile telling everyone that walks by that this party sucks. 

Some fandom can be exaggerated and it always is.  But nothing amounts to the pessimism of some people, who think EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE is overhyped, excitement is dead, there's nothing to really look forward to in life and wants desperately for the world to join them because misery loves company. 

Anyone find it odd that theres like 30 threads made each day about the hype on this game ??  Just saying the same thing over and over.

Theres always people who will take things to one extreme or the next not just games, but pretty much anything in life.

Just like that girl is the most amazing person ever until you marry her and see her true side.

Originally posted by Cinge

Lol 95% of the people that say they have "played" are lying :P

I love how your "facts" totally refute their "facts".  I'm going to go ahead and believe you over them because you put a :P at the end.

Originally posted by Monorojo

Originally posted by Fion

Originally posted by Monorojo

Based on some random beta videos at that, stating the game has close to no faults and is the 2nd coming of the messaih?

 

That is just really really wierd to me. It seems like these people are in an alternate universe, where this fantasy that Guild Wars is the perfect game is actually a reality.

 

Some of us, you know, have actaully played the game.

Corection, you played the beta where the content you  experiened was controlled by Anet. Saying your limited playtime in beta is basis to claim the entire game will be amazing is, again, laughable at best.

I find your thread and "earnest desire to bring people down to Earth" laughable. Also, there are very very FEW people actually saying that it's going to literally be "a perfect game" or "the messiah". Yes, those few people need a reality check or need their heads examined. Most of the people excited about GW2 are expecting "a very good game", based on actual facts. Maybe the people who made it into beta could be as happy with the rest of the content if "it was at least as good as what they got to actually play." Is that possibility so hard to comprehend? Let's face it...this thread is just a rehash of all others like it. Nothing really new here.