You again? I would wait a few weeks after release too, if I would be a little bit more patient.

Originally posted by Butregenyo

Hype : Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material.

 

Guild Wars 2 is not hyped at all. Developers let players play and see, showing real content that matches their promises. Gw2 news never missguides people, it is what they are. I can say/do much if you can not realize this fact alone by yourself. Just wait for release and see for yourself, as they dont try to milk you like other companies (Ea,activision,blizzard), they wont have any loss from you if you buy their game after 3 months.

You know what the OP means. He's referring to the player driven hype.

I also am looking foward to giving the game a try. I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Good on you that you've actually learned to be more patient, but  you're a little unrealistic. 3 to 6 months, really? That length of time from launch is a bit of a stretch to form an opinion. Surely before then, you'd have made a decision already.

You are hyping up your disdain for hype, ha!

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

3 to 6 months? That seems WAY too long. You only need a couple of weeks, a month max, to know what is in the game and if it's something you'd enjoy. I'm not prepurchasing anything, and I'll wait a bit, but certainly not 3 months.

If you've been burnt by the TOR hype, then you only have yourself to blame for that. If you'd have waited a month, or even a week or two, you'd have been able to read the signs of why this one would be going down relatively fast. You'd need to filter out the trolls and viral marketeers, but you'd have known that once the story is over, it's pretty much over.

You're trying to overcompensate for buying into the TOR hype. If GW2 has serious flaws, you'll know about them well within the first month.

Originally posted by JoeyMMO

You're trying to overcompensate for buying into the TOR hype.

OP isn't referring to TOR hype (check posting history)

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

Are you trying to tell me that pre order gives you access to beta?  from my understanding the only way you gain beta access with any type of game purchase, pre order or pre purchase, is from pre purchase.   I've read in many different places that you do not gain anything concerning the beta from pre order.  

Pre purchase = guaranteed access to beta

Pre order = nothing concerning beta??

nvm I looked it up myself and am puzzled why once again I'm arguing over semantics instead of people learning how to read in context... gad dam thats annoying as hell.

Pre order DOES NOT GIVE YOU ACCESS TO BETA!!! Click HERE

"What if I don't want to pay in full in advance?

In addition to Pre-Purchase, a number of our retail partners are offering a Pre-Order program. Customers who pre-order will receive one-day Headstart Access to the final game."  that is it no beta unless you get in some other way.

Find it suprising an obvious troll post by the OP has received 3 pages of replys. 

With the (arguably) pay to win model,

This has been beaten to death. There is no valid argument that the game is pay 2 win as no item purchased in the store offers a power advantage over any other player.

the incredibly simplistic combat,

Incredibly simplistic combat? You mean teh combat system that is so complicated 99% of all current beta testers have utterly failed in showing any game skill at all. Or do you mean simplistic because every skill is not targetted like in Darkfall. A failed game with one of the lowest total playerbases ever.

the unbalanced zerg fest that is WvWvW

Not sure how a massive multiple objective battlefield that has enough objectives to maintain three teams of 500 - 700 players all working togethor organized for 2 weeks straight to both defend, and attack keeps, supply camps, battlefields, and passes means zerg. It just means that there will always be available action on the battlefield for everyone. And we have seen that there is plenty of chances for small scale fights and 1v1 opportunities.

Go falsify and spread you BS somewhere else because anyone who has spent even a reasonable ammount of time researching teh game knows your full of it. There is more known about this game already then there has been about any other MMORPG ever before release. And it is has been produced by a company known for delivering exactly on their promises and maintaining large playerbases with quality, content, and follow-through.

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by JoeyMMO

You're trying to overcompensate for buying into the TOR hype.

OP isn't referring to TOR hype (check posting history)

I just looked at his history the one that started this thread, and yes it is an attempt to overcompensate for buying TOR because apparently misinformation and no logic follows with these types of posts about GW2 and their fanbase. It's just like the claim the GW2 is p2w when there's metric butt-tons of evidence to the contrary and people just keep on posting about it like parrots with cashew sized brains.

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

Are you trying to tell me that pre order gives you access to beta?  from my understanding the only way you gain beta access with any type of game purchase, pre order or pre purchase, is from pre purchase.   I've read in many different places that you do not gain anything concerning the beta from pre order.  

 

Pre purchase = guaranteed access to beta

Pre order = nothing concerning beta??

There is no pre-order.

Pre-purchase guarantees access to all public beta events.

Not pre-purchasing means you have to get a beta key in another way. Most likely in a give-away or if ArenaNet sends it to you personally.

Its F2P buying the game does not hurt me, and I am going to buy it. Rather it lives up too its hype or not it was wourth checking out.

See no reason to really. It's not like it has subscription fee. I loose nothing by getting in on it early and if I won't like what I see I'll just put it away for few months. Plus the beta weekends will be good indicator of what to expect on launch and afterwards.

Also - if You are sick of hype take a few days off from GW2/MMO related forums. You don't have to read every topic about GW2...

Originally posted by wrightstuf

Originally posted by Butregenyo

Hype : Exaggerated or extravagant claims made especially in advertising or promotional material.

 

Guild Wars 2 is not hyped at all. Developers let players play and see, showing real content that matches their promises. Gw2 news never missguides people, it is what they are. I can say/do much if you can not realize this fact alone by yourself. Just wait for release and see for yourself, as they dont try to milk you like other companies (Ea,activision,blizzard), they wont have any loss from you if you buy their game after 3 months.

You know what the OP means. He's referring to the player driven hype.

I also am looking foward to giving the game a try. I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Uhm no, we know what Hype means, and it's being misused over and over again in these forums. Hype is generated SOLELY by the developers advertisements and interviews, THAT'S ALL. It's not generated by the public in ANY sense of the word thus is the problem with his and many other's use of the word. People being excited about a game is not HYPE even when they go to extremes and say things like it's the second coming or it's so great it will make cheeze come out your ears. Please learn vocabulary people before misusing words. An Example of Hype is like whe BW told everyone their combat would be different and that it was not epic combat to have a whole bunch of little guys beating on a large central boss figure. That's hype.

Fantasy really hasn't been beat to death it just was never done properly in the first place. Now it will be finally done right.

If I decide to play, it will not be due to someone elses hype...If I bought into hype, I would of played WoW....

Hype for me in this case is not wht im reading, or premade videos of devs playing the game (i fell for that in Dark and Light), but videos of actual players posting on youtube. When i watch one of Yogcasts or Totalbiscuits videos i can only think "Damn, if  only i could be playing that".  Its a safe enough kind of hype for me, probably the only safe one.

Originally posted by sidhaethe

Originally posted by JoeyMMO

You're trying to overcompensate for buying into the TOR hype.

OP isn't referring to TOR hype (check posting history)

 Whatever he's still butthurt over. Can't be WAR since he loved the first few months. Could be RIFT, could be SWTOR, but whatever it is that he hasn't gotten over yet, he's overcompensating for it.

Checked up on the OPs past post history. Seems he has a habit of jumping on a games bandwagon and then when it fails he trys to defend it by bashing the competition.

He jumped all over WAR then when it turned out to be crap he spent a hundred posts trying to defend it by bashing AoC.

Now hes a shining white knight for SW:TOR and he vigorously defends it by bashing GW2. At least he could try to use relevant and truthful concerns to bash GW2 and not spread lies and debunked troll theories.

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

Are you trying to tell me that pre order gives you access to beta?  from my understanding the only way you gain beta access with any type of game purchase, pre order or pre purchase, is from pre purchase.   I've read in many different places that you do not gain anything concerning the beta from pre order.  

 

Pre purchase = guaranteed access to beta

Pre order = nothing concerning beta??

There is no pre-order.

Pre-purchase guarantees access to all public beta events.

Not pre-purchasing means you have to get a beta key in another way. Most likely in a give-away or if ArenaNet sends it to you personally.

how do you go from his statement of "I'll pre order to play it in beta" to me letting him know you can't gain access with pre order only pre puchase but you only focused on the semantics of but you can gain access other ways.. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS stop making up a argument on semantics instead of context of the conversation... extremely frustrating.

YES there is a pre order = 1 day early log into launch.  and gives you no access to beta unless you already have access.

Pre Purchase = guaranteed access to beta

The person I replied to said he was going to pre order to gain access to beta then cancel if he didn't like it.   my reply let him know that isn't possible with pre order.. good lord people seriously need to stop pulling bits and pieces out of entire conversations to start idiotic ludacris arguments over nothing...

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by romanator0

Originally posted by TheTrueKing

Originally posted by wrightstuf I'll pre order so i can play it in beta and cancel if it sucks. I'm far more "hyped" to play TSW. I love MMOs, but i'm really tired of the fantasy themed ones like GW2. Its been beat to death, lol.

Hate to break it to you but you can't beta without pre PURCHASE = no cancel of purchase because its not a pre order and if you pre order you don't get into beta.

 

and yes there is a difference between pre purchase and pre order.

Actually you can. Pre-purchasing only guarantees you access to the public beta events. You can still gain access to the beta events even without pre-purchasing, it just isn't guaranteed.

Are you trying to tell me that pre order gives you access to beta?  from my understanding the only way you gain beta access with any type of game purchase, pre order or pre purchase, is from pre purchase.   I've read in many different places that you do not gain anything concerning the beta from pre order.  

 

Pre purchase = guaranteed access to beta

Pre order = nothing concerning beta??

Hmm, yea i just double checked....you only get beta access if you pre PURCHASE, not pre order. That sucks. It now means no beta for me. There is just no way in hell i'd buy an MMO i havent tried any more. Too many games are hyped up and look good on paper or vids, but turn out disappointing. Warhammer Online, SWTOR, AoC all come to mind. I'll wait till reviews come in and i see how the people playing are liking it.

Strikes me funny tho. Here on the GW2 forum this will just be considered good business...If Funcom was doing it, they'd be called money grubbing criminals.