Originally posted by darkehawke

dont judge all the fans based upon that

most of us are pretty reasonable

I am a GW2 fan, I wouldnt be annoyed by region locking if I wasnt. I was just amazed by that guys stupidity. It really was mind boggling.

Originally posted by Thomson

Originally posted by fivoroth

I guess they are region locking because the game is unfairly priced in Europe. I am not going to pay 30-50% more for the game. This is not common practice as there are a gazillion games which are fairly priced in Europe.

The prices are not unfair, it's not Arenanet or NCSoft who decided that europe has to
pay more for GW2 or anything. The taxes are just higher which makes to game effectively cost more.

There is nothing that Arenanet or NCSoft could do to change that because it's they
can't decide how much tax you'll have to pay for the game.

Its 15 dollars cheaper to get the US version, even after you take VAT into account. Has nothing to do with taxes.

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by darkehawke

dont judge all the fans based upon that

most of us are pretty reasonable

I am a GW2 fan, I wouldnt be annoyed by region locking if I wasnt. I was just amazed by that guys stupidity. It really was mind boggling.

there's been a few responses from clueless children in this thread that is mind boggling

it makes me wonder how they survive in the real world

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol. 

Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.

How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.

I loathe the concept of regional locking, whether it's for a game that you purchase or any other content that's denied to some regions but not to others.  How many times have I followed a link to some content or another and been told "This is not available in your region".  Makes me want to setup a US proxy just to circumvent it.

So yeah, region locking sucks ass.  Chances are it will never affect me directly but I still hope they reconsider it.

Hey - here's a video detailing our opinions. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE-akVaK8KA

To our Euro allies I would say:   "Sorry for the inconvenience this puts you in... "  ...but I'm sure they'll get a work-around put in place soon enough.  Anet always finds a way to fix stuff like this even if they aren't the fastest at getting around to it.

To everyone else:  Tough Shit.  Stop buying Taiwan serials for a 1/10th of the price the game is actually worth and then reselling those accounts through RMT sites.   We all know there's a bunch of you who do this and you can complain on the forums all you want...  but you're not entitled to make money off Anet's hard work.  Just GTFO and stop making excuses.

Not a huge fan of region locking but I can sort of understand why it's in place. Publisher, retail partners, etc.

What I think ANet should do as far as region locking goes, is to require the game to be activated from the region where it was purchased, and then allow it to be played from anywhere in the world.

So if you live in France, you have to purchase and activate the game in France. Once you do that, the region lock is lifted and you can play from anywhere in the world. There is no subscription fee so there really is no point in maintaining the region lock after the game is activated.

I'm really hyped for Guildwars 2, but ArenaNet's business decisions are starting to piss me off.

The funny part ist, the best prevention for europeans to buy the US version is, that they will probably only accept credit cards. Many europeans don't have one and those who do, are reluctant to use them for online shopping.

And the sad part is, that they will probably only accept credit cards for prepurchase in europe, too...

Originally posted by heartless

Not a huge fan of region locking but I can sort of understand why it's in place. Publisher, retail partners, etc.

What I think ANet should do as far as region locking goes, is to require the game to be activated from the region where it was purchased, and then allow it to be played from anywhere in the world.

So if you live in France, you have to purchase and activate the game in France. Once you do that, the region lock is lifted and you can play from anywhere in the world. There is no subscription fee so there really is no point in maintaining the region lock after the game is activated.

well someone can buy it for a friend and then activate it in the states to avoid whatever Ncsoft is trying to prevent.

Originally posted by Deldor

I'm really hyped for Guildwars 2, but ArenaNet's business decisions are starting to piss me off.

The funny part ist, the best prevention for europeans to buy the US version is, that they will probably only accept credit cards. Many europeans don't have one and those who do, are reluctant to use them for online shopping.

And the sad part is, that they will probably only accept credit cards for prepurchase in europe, too...

This seems more like  a publisher decision than developer's because Publisher handle everything after the developer makes the game. But honestly ppl  like you are making a mountain out of molehills, the only people that are affected are ppl that travel a lot which only happens to be a fraction of the players.

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol. 

Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.

How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.

You make it sound like Anet is part of some conspiracy to scam europeans.

There is a market difference, and Anet is compensating for it, like any other business would do. This will stop people from scamming Anet.

Originally posted by Deldor
 the sad part is, that they will probably only accept credit cards for prepurchase in europe, too...

ncsoft accepts PaySafe cards too

https://help.ncsoft.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6037/~/what-is-paysafecard%3F

Originally posted by Adalwulff

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by GrayGhost79

When that happens it means there really wasn't an issue to begin with, it was a few trying their best to find something they can complain about. If it were a true issue with the posters here the thread would have stopped once Anet said they were looking into a fix lol. 

Uh no. With 4 days left until pre-purchase and they make this last minute announcement to try and stop EU players getting the cheaper version. They thought they were being clever and then realise they are wrong so they start 'looking into the issue'. That doesnt exactly inspire any consumer confidence.

How do we know that their fix will actually be acceptable? We dont. So the issue isnt over until they announce the fix that they have come up with.

 

You make it sound like Anet is part of some conspiracy to scam europeans.

There is a market difference, and Anet is compensating for it, like any other business would do. This will stop people from scamming Anet.

They announced the price, everyone told them that the conversion was way off, especially for the CE, and then there is region locking announced, It doesnt take a genius to realise why they did it.

There is no market difference, every other game I have purchased here i the UK has been equivalent to the US cost after including VAT. GW2 is not. There is no reasonable justification for the extra cost either which is why they decided to region lock rather than review the prices that they set.

I was planning to ge the US version since it's bound to be a LOT cheaper.

I will wait f or the bargain bin now or not buy at all.

In terms of world economies, I consider NA and EU to be in the same region.  I don't see a reason for ArenaNet to isolate the two.

My concern has been answered. Players in the Philippines who pre-purchase will automatically connect to NA data center. 

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by makkaal

This isn't new, though. I've encountered this with WoW like three years back - had nothing to do and wanted to play with an American friend of mine, couldn't do it. Not exactly ANet's fault, but definitely a chance missed.

That is pretty strange, back when I was playing WoW I played on business trips to Thailand, UK and the US with no IP restriction.

Dude. I'm sorry, but why were you playing WoW when you were in Thailand?

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by makkaal

This isn't new, though. I've encountered this with WoW like three years back - had nothing to do and wanted to play with an American friend of mine, couldn't do it. Not exactly ANet's fault, but definitely a chance missed.

That is pretty strange, back when I was playing WoW I played on business trips to Thailand, UK and the US with no IP restriction.

Dude. I'm sorry, but why were you playing WoW when you were in Thailand?

+10... I near fell out of my chair with this one ,the sad  fact  is this one point will fly right over the head of 95% of the folks is a classic

Originally posted by TROLL_HARD

Originally posted by evilastro

Originally posted by makkaal

This isn't new, though. I've encountered this with WoW like three years back - had nothing to do and wanted to play with an American friend of mine, couldn't do it. Not exactly ANet's fault, but definitely a chance missed.

That is pretty strange, back when I was playing WoW I played on business trips to Thailand, UK and the US with no IP restriction.

Dude. I'm sorry, but why were you playing WoW when you were in Thailand?

no AIDS with WoW.