http://www.ingame.msnbc.msn.com/technology/ingame/biowares-protest-cupcakes-donated-charity-628268

Played Me3, but didn't buy the game and glad I didn't I really don't think bioware got the point.

Like seriously Mass Effect, and Mass Effect 2 had an okay ending but Mass Effect 3 like seriously the ending is the worst I have ever seen in the entire series.

Lets not even go on talking about SWTOR I recently went back on a trial, found chat restricted, and not only that but the game felt the same as in Beta to me lacked major customizations and I can say that between some Beta games I am playing which I really can't give details due to NDA on they seem way better than SWTOR, and I am waiting for the launch of Tera, GW2, FireFall, and The Secret World which will hopefully take down Fallen Earth.

I actually think the developers of Me3/Bioware were Insulted by the cupcakes.

ME1 and 2 where the best... I think most of us felt ME3 was going to be groundbreaking, I knew it wouldn't be.  People/fans were expecting a little to much from ME3.  Its kinda like DA1 to DA2, DA1 was soooo good people thought DA2 was gonna be mind blowing, welp turns out DA2 didn't stack up and was a carbon copy of DA1 but a poor copy at that.  Bioware IMO does a good job at putting out a good game, but they have a hard time taking a game and repeating its sucess with a series.

I figure C&C will be great, and people will suck on bioware's balls until Bioware makes a new C&C then they will jump on the hate wagon.  So many people play SWTOR but all they do is rant in chat everyday about what THEY want from SWTOR and what Bioware isn't giving them... lol its like Bioware is some gaming god, everyone expects a golden plater of the finest things upon their lap... give em a break if you don't like the games don't playem. Its just people expect WAY to much from that company, they make good games but come on.

Bioware's PR department is stupid.

Stupid.

Its just plain stupid to insult your player base, and they do it several times in a short amount of time?

That is bad taste.

I think they understand why they got them. I think it was nice of them to give it to charity.

Originally posted by QSatu

I think they understand why they got them. I think it was nice of them to give it to charity.

+1

Haters will hate, and I'm not saying that as a ME or Bioware fanboy (I've never played the ME serie and was severely disappointed with Dragon Age so I haven't bothered with any of their other product). Donating the cupcakes to charity was a very nice move on their part. I mean, what were the players who sent those cupcakes expecting? That they ate all of it and go to hospital for food poisoning? Or just let most of it go to waste and end up in the trash?

Charity was a very good move from Bioware. Those players are just hating for the sake of it.

ROFl, people are actually mad Bioware gave a bunch of cupcakes sent due to a fit of rage, to charity? What were they supposed to do with them? Eat them? For what? How in any way would eating them change anything? People these days... Next time don't waste your time or money, learn to deal with a bad game, or at least what you view as a bad game. Better yet donate the money somewhere "logical" yourselves...

I actually think what they did was cool, as opposed to making SWTOR.  

lol..

I don't know. I think it's cool they went to charity, anything we can do to help give back to the community is always a positive. On the other hand, I'm not sure that I would publicly announce that I regiftted a present to someone else, no matter the intention of the act or announcement. It just seems like they're poking the bull.

Originally posted by Distopia

ROFl, people are actually mad Bioware gave a bunch of cupcakes sent due to a fit of rage, to charity? What were they supposed to do with them? Eat them? For what? How in any way would eating them change anything? People these days... Next time don't waste your time or money, learn to deal with a bad game, or at least what you view as a bad game. Better yet donate the money somewhere "logical" yourselves...

Eh, it's far from the worst thing they could do.

However, if someone were to give you a 'gift', would you really think it'd be polite to give it away? I think the statement made as to their reasoning, in addition to that was a bit insulting. Gag gift or not, it's still a bit rude. Glad they gave it to some needy kids though. I'm sure they enjoyed them.

However, I also didn't just see some of my money donated away by my fav company, so i couldn't care less.

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

I don't know. I think it's cool they went to charity, anything we can do to help give back to the community is always a positive. On the other hand, I'm not sure that I would publicly announce that I regiftted a present to someone else, no matter the intention of the act or announcement. It just seems like they're poking the bull.

+1 this ^

No idea why they thought this would be a good idea... Would've been simple to just not announce it, and do what you want w/ the gift.

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

I don't know. I think it's cool they went to charity, anything we can do to help give back to the community is always a positive. On the other hand, I'm not sure that I would publicly announce that I regiftted a present to someone else, no matter the intention of the act or announcement. It just seems like they're poking the bull.

I think it just shows how warped people have become, the notion of raising $1000 to say hey we didn't like the ending of your game is off in so many ways, not to mention spending it in such a wasteful manner. The only good thing I can see in this situation is that some kids who may not normally get to enjoy these finer things in life, got to. If anything these people should be happy that's how their money was essentially spent.

Originally posted by aesperus

 

Eh, it's far from the worst thing they could do.

However, if someone were to give you a 'gift', would you really think it'd be polite to give it away? I think the statement made as to their reasoning, in addition to that was a bit insulting. Gag gift or not, it's still a bit rude. Glad they gave it to some needy kids though. I'm sure they enjoyed them.

However, I also didn't just see some of my money donated away by my fav company, so i couldn't care less.

I think where you go wrong is thinking this was a gift from fans, even if you only think it's a gag gift. What it was, was a statement and the statement was heard, getting mad that kids got the cup-cakes is just well.. wrong.

I just think BioWare is boring on how they handle things. When I read it, the things wondering through my mind was:

What would Valve have done with it? What about Blizzard, Projekt Red or BethSoft?

I'd like to think they would have done something at least a little entertaining with it, even if they may have donated at the end. But BioWare just took the most foolproof PR route. Donating to charity = good, and you can't really argue with that.

It wasn't malicious; just dull; a "Oh, that's cool. Nice of them, I guess."

Originally posted by Kaijin2k3

I just think BioWare is boring on how they handle things. When I read it, the things wondering through my mind was:

What would Valve have done with it? What about Blizzard, Projekt Red or BethSoft?

I'd like to think they would have done something at least a little entertaining with it, even if they may have donated at the end. But BioWare just took the most foolproof PR route. Donating to charity = good, and you can't really argue with that.

It wasn't malicious; just dull; a "Oh, that's cool. Nice of them, I guess."

Yeah a guy dressed as Commander Shepard should have blown a hole in the side of the youth center, covered in debris and surrounded by smoke, wrestling an alien.  Then he reaches for his secret weapon - CUPCAKES!

Then it looks like one of those Hostess ads where they all share the cupcakes while giving the thumbs up..

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

I don't know. I think it's cool they went to charity, anything we can do to help give back to the community is always a positive. On the other hand, I'm not sure that I would publicly announce that I regiftted a present to someone else, no matter the intention of the act or announcement. It just seems like they're poking the bull.

I think it just shows how warped people have become, the notion of raising $1000 to say hey we didn't like the ending of your game is off in so many ways, not to mention spending it in such a wasteful manner. The only good thing I can see in this situation is that some kids who may not normally get to enjoy these finer things in life, got to. If anything these people should be happy that's how their money was essentially spent.

I agree, dislike the game all you want, but the way Bioware handled it was very mature and generous. They acknowledged the gift and let the people that 'donated' it that they had been passed on to the less fortunate.

What the whiners are really annoyed about is that Bioware weren't as upset as they wanted them to be with their $1000 protest.

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

I don't know. I think it's cool they went to charity, anything we can do to help give back to the community is always a positive. On the other hand, I'm not sure that I would publicly announce that I regiftted a present to someone else, no matter the intention of the act or announcement. It just seems like they're poking the bull.

I think it just shows how warped people have become, the notion of raising $1000 to say hey we didn't like the ending of your game is off in so many ways, not to mention spending it in such a wasteful manner. The only good thing I can see in this situation is that some kids who may not normally get to enjoy these finer things in life, got to. If anything these people should be happy that's how their money was essentially spent.

Obviously, this all lies in perception. Like many things we discuss here, some people take them more seriously than others, and that's perfectly reasonable given the scale of perfection many individuals pay to their hobbies. I'm not going to argue that homeless individuals or lower income children aren't good recipients for free cupcakes, but where I grew up, it's rude to give someone a gift and then let them know that you returned it, or gave it to someone else. It doesn't matter that this whole endeavor is related to video gaming, it doesn't matter that the resources could have been spent on a "more important issue" or to help people "enjoy these finer things in life", because ultimately the entire resources of this industry could probably be spent or managed in a less "wasteful" manner.

Personally, I don't care, but I could understand why someone, or a group of people, who spent a thousand bucks on cupcakes to help persuade his, or their, favorite developer to make changes to a product they all love, and spent money on, would be pretty pissed off, if not insulted at the least, that their gesture was given away for someone it wasn't originally intended.

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Btw, to the OP...I like how you neglected to mention that, not only did Bioware listen to their fans who were upset about the ending, but they have made it public that they will be reworking the ending to please their fans.  This is unheard of from a major developer.  They.  Actually.  Listened.  To.  Their.  Customers.   

But, of course, we don't talk about that.  We talk about them re-gifting cupcakes.  

Originally posted by Distopia

Originally posted by aesperus

 

Eh, it's far from the worst thing they could do.

However, if someone were to give you a 'gift', would you really think it'd be polite to give it away? I think the statement made as to their reasoning, in addition to that was a bit insulting. Gag gift or not, it's still a bit rude. Glad they gave it to some needy kids though. I'm sure they enjoyed them.

However, I also didn't just see some of my money donated away by my fav company, so i couldn't care less.

I think where you go wrong is thinking this was a gift from fans, even if you only think it's a gag gift. What it was, was a statement and the statement was heard, getting mad that kids got the cup-cakes is just well.. wrong.

Completely agree.

However I do though feel there was a whiff of grandstanding superiority in Bioware's very public statement about giving them to charity. The whole "for some kids these tasty treats are hard to come by" or however he worded it, from a company that pisses aways millions making mindless pap that goes bing, is a little hard to take seriously (don't get me wrong I like video games, I just do not see them as something as worth while as say, finding the cure for cancer).

And its easy to be magnanimous when you aren't the one footing the bill.

So do I feel people should get mad that Bioware gave the cupcakes away? Hell no.

Should people be skeptical of Bioware's VERY public "look at us" self backpatting, way they went about it? Certainly.

Should this change the opinion of the people who feel Bioware's recent games aren't up to their usual quality? F*ck no.

Originally posted by Lawlmonster

 

Obviously, this all lies in perception. Like many things we discuss here, some people take them more seriously than others, and that's perfectly reasonable given the scale of perfection many individuals pay to their hobbies. I'm not going to argue that homeless individuals or lower income children aren't good recipients for free cupcakes, but where I grew up, it's rude to give someone a gift and then let them know that you returned it, or gave it to someone else. It doesn't matter that this whole endeavor is related to video gaming, it doesn't matter that the resources could have been spent on a "more important issue" or to help people "enjoy these finer things in life", because ultimately the entire resources of this industry could probably be spent or managed in a less "wasteful" manner.

 

Personally, I don't care, but I could understand why someone, or a group of people, who spent a thousand bucks on cupcakes to help persuade his, or their, favorite developer to make changes to a product they all love and spent money on would be pretty pissed off, if not insulted at the least.

Of course opinions will differ, I'm just offering mine. I don't view the cup-cakes as a gift, I view them as a statement wrapped in a cup-cake package. Meaning the cup-cakes are largely irrelevant to the issue, the statement was heard. Whether anything comes of it I have no idea, we'll have to see, they did release a statement they were going to address the ending in the future.

The cup-cakes are a simple means to reach an end, it's better they went to needy kids than getting thrown in the trash.

Originally posted by Tardcore

 

Completely agree.

However I do though feel there was a whiff of grandstanding superiority in Bioware's very public statement about giving them to charity. The whole "for some kids these tasty treats are hard to come by" or however he worded it, from a company that pisses aways millions making mindless pap that goes bing, is a little hard to take seriously (don't get me wrong I like video games, I just do not see them as something as worth while as say, finding the cure for cancer).

And its easy to be magnanimous when you aren't the one footing the bill.

So do I feel people should get mad that Bioware gave the cupcakes away? Hell no.

Should people be skeptical of Bioware's VERY public "look at us" self backpatting, way they went about it? Certainly.

Should this change the opinion of the people who feel Bioware's games aren't up to their usual quality? F*ck no.

Yep there's that of course, and people should have seen that coming IMO, it is a corporation, just about anytime they give to charity it's to their own benefit. This was Bioware's way of shining some positive light on themselves in the face of public ridicule.

Still negative fan reaction is IMO sour grapes if you know what I mean. Which IMO is a little batty, because the fans still have the upperhand, they footed the bill not Bioware.