I will buy lifetime sub because even if the game goes free model like AOC, the lifetime sub will still stay just like it did for me in STO and LOTRO. I don't pay a dime to play these games.

Originally posted by evilastro

It seems like a pretty bad investment in a genre that is almost entirely moving towards F2P.

TSW wont get the millions that Rift, SWTOR and WoW have, so its likely to go F2P fairly quickly, especially when they already have AoC as a measuring stick / guideline.

I guess its a bit of a gamble, if it lasts a year without going F2P you made your money back, if not you lose.

When the game goes F2P you are bound to get boons for buying the lifetime. Such as all the content for free/monthly free CS currency/subscribers exclusives. So even if you only get 5$ worth of cash shop currency each month you are still getting something out of your lifetime as long as the game stays alive and has a decent playerbase. This is assuming the game doesn't go s#it once it converts to F2P. Since TSW has the CS structure in it's core the transforming to F2P won't be a big deal either.

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Originally posted by xZeRGz

Originally posted by EndDream

I think the game will certainly eventually be f2p... but they may give cool stuff when it does anyway.

 

Considering every other title they own is... me thinks it's a safe bet.

Atleast funcom will go F2P instead of commiting a suicide like Warhammer Online.

Now that would've been a wasted lifetime subscription :o

while they are F2P, they really aren't. You only get a partial experience for free. Not nearly the full effect of the game.

Well, AO anyway. You miss out on all the expansions after NW. And that is where the game is played these days.

As far as TSW.....

Funcom has the creativity.

They also have a history.

The best thing you can say is that historically, they missed the ball for 2 out of 2 launches, but they they were able to turn those games around and make them really good games. Unfortuneatly, this becomes a situation of "Too little, too late" The damage is done and the games lose what should be heathy populations due to players feeling that they got played by Funcom instead of playing Funcom.

Personally, I like their games...........now.

However, To order a lifetime mebership to a game still under NDA?

No fricken way.  I don't buy a game until I get to play it or try it out.  If they have an open "beta"/preview week or something like that, prior to release, and I loved it then I would pre-order it.  It would have to be the best thing in the world since bottled beer for me to buy a lifetime sub.

I am thinking about it. I have never bought a lifetime sub to anything and am hesitant to do so now.

The only real reason I am even thinking about it is to support a company who at least is trying to make something different. Just based on the fact of no elves or dwarves is almot enough for me.

I love the idea behind TSW, I am a little worried about Funcoms ability to implement that idea. They had a bad launch with AoC but turned it into a great game ( IMO ). Hopefully TSW will launch in a better state.

If they extend the lifetime sub option until after the game goes live that would be nice. I cant remember any game doing that before. Usually its the buy before release or dont get it option.

I am tempted and very well may. Not just yet tho.

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Originally posted by xZeRGz

Originally posted by EndDream

I think the game will certainly eventually be f2p... but they may give cool stuff when it does anyway.

 

Considering every other title they own is... me thinks it's a safe bet.

Atleast funcom will go F2P instead of commiting a suicide like Warhammer Online.

Now that would've been a wasted lifetime subscription :o

while they are F2P, they really aren't. You only get a partial experience for free. Not nearly the full effect of the game.

Well, AO anyway. You miss out on all the expansions after NW. And that is where the game is played these days.

As far as TSW.....

Funcom has the creativity.

They also have a history.

The best thing you can say is that histrically, they missed the ball for 2 out of 2 games, but they they were able to turn those games around and make them really good games. Unfortuneatly, this becomes a situation of "Too little, too late" The damage is done and the games lose what should be heathy populations due to players feeling that they got played by Funcom instead of playing Funcom.

Personally, I like their games...........now.

However, To order a lifetime mebership to a game still under NDA?

 

It's like ordering a mail-order bride from Russia.
You might be up for the best years of your life or you start thinking "How can I get out of this?!".

No way ever for any game. Learned my lesson.

Originally posted by saltydog3

No way ever for any game. Learned my lesson.

Learned a lesson as in hated the game or life time sub is waste of money? because for all the games i bought life time subs for i am still playing them. it is like B2P for me.

Originally posted by Torvaldr

No fricken way.  I don't buy a game until I get to play it or try it out.  If they have an open "beta"/preview week or something like that, prior to release, and I loved it then I would pre-order it.  It would have to be the best thing in the world since bottled beer for me to buy a lifetime sub.

Yeah, even playing the beta is not enough anymore: TOR showed us that. What was released was different in several ways from the final beta....

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Originally posted by xZeRGz

Originally posted by EndDream

I think the game will certainly eventually be f2p... but they may give cool stuff when it does anyway.

 

Considering every other title they own is... me thinks it's a safe bet.

Atleast funcom will go F2P instead of commiting a suicide like Warhammer Online.

Now that would've been a wasted lifetime subscription :o

while they are F2P, they really aren't. You only get a partial experience for free. Not nearly the full effect of the game.

Well, AO anyway. You miss out on all the expansions after NW. And that is where the game is played these days.

As far as TSW.....

Funcom has the creativity.

They also have a history.

The best thing you can say is that histrically, they missed the ball for 2 out of 2 games, but they they were able to turn those games around and make them really good games. Unfortuneatly, this becomes a situation of "Too little, too late" The damage is done and the games lose what should be heathy populations due to players feeling that they got played by Funcom instead of playing Funcom.

Personally, I like their games...........now.

However, To order a lifetime mebership to a game still under NDA?

 

It's like ordering a mail-order bride from Russia.
You might be up for the best years of your life or you start thinking "How can I get out of this?!".

Especially when you also get the inlaws as a package deal.

Then 6 months later, you are in a divorcee and being sued for half your game collection.

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Originally posted by GeezerGamer

Originally posted by GoldenArrow

Originally posted by xZeRGz

Originally posted by EndDream

I think the game will certainly eventually be f2p... but they may give cool stuff when it does anyway.

 

Considering every other title they own is... me thinks it's a safe bet.

Atleast funcom will go F2P instead of commiting a suicide like Warhammer Online.

Now that would've been a wasted lifetime subscription :o

while they are F2P, they really aren't. You only get a partial experience for free. Not nearly the full effect of the game.

Well, AO anyway. You miss out on all the expansions after NW. And that is where the game is played these days.

As far as TSW.....

Funcom has the creativity.

They also have a history.

The best thing you can say is that histrically, they missed the ball for 2 out of 2 games, but they they were able to turn those games around and make them really good games. Unfortuneatly, this becomes a situation of "Too little, too late" The damage is done and the games lose what should be heathy populations due to players feeling that they got played by Funcom instead of playing Funcom.

Personally, I like their games...........now.

However, To order a lifetime mebership to a game still under NDA?

 

It's like ordering a mail-order bride from Russia.
You might be up for the best years of your life or you start thinking "How can I get out of this?!".

Wouldn't that be considered pay to... oh never mind. 

Originally posted by ameese

My spin on it is this-TSW will survive and thrive

Reason being, I estimate, in a few months, we will hear this from CCP

..."Due to the changing marketplace/competition(insert excuse here)

We are cancelling the World of Darkness MMO project that everyone wants

so bad, so we can jam Dust down your throats.

Don't say that

Originally posted by Ankur

Originally posted by saltydog3

No way ever for any game. Learned my lesson.

Learned a lesson as in hated the game or life time sub is waste of money? because for all the games i bought life time subs for i am still playing them. it is like B2P for me.

I guess it's all subjective.  Most games I've seen with lifetime subs wouldn't interest me in the long run.  For example, LotRO is total crap to me now.  The $5 in TP (ironic their cash is called TP) you get a month would be worthless to me now.  It's not even worth the hard drive space or time to log in.  Some people will have the opposite opinion and will play anything and don't care how the winds of change blow.

So, for me, the lesson learned is I would rather wait and see if I like it than blindly roll the dice.  Even then a game can change dramatically later and blindside you.

Originally posted by Burntvet

Originally posted by Torvaldr

No fricken way.  I don't buy a game until I get to play it or try it out.  If they have an open "beta"/preview week or something like that, prior to release, and I loved it then I would pre-order it.  It would have to be the best thing in the world since bottled beer for me to buy a lifetime sub.

Yeah, even playing the beta is not enough anymore: TOR showed us that. What was released was different in several ways from the final beta....

That's a good point.  It's kind of a crap shoot anymore.  Publishers know better than to communicate their intentions for fear of fallout.  Even after launch a game can pull weird stuff.

Me? No i did not and will not unless they would offer it 3 months after release and the game is not a total cess pool like AoC was at launch. They (Funcom) burnt me once and I will not support them in any kind of way unless they put out something worth buying. I do hope this game is good as on paper it seems like a killer game but I don't trust them at all.

But if the game is not a buggy pile of crap them yes, I'll buy a lifetime in a second!

Originally posted by saltydog3

No way ever for any game. Learned my lesson.

No as in I will never pay for lifetime got burned. As for as the games that burn me at this point it is not relevant.

I will wait for a free trial. I will be busy playing other stuff lol

wont touch aother funcom game till free trial or at least 3 months aster release.

Originally posted by Mad+Dog

wont touch aother funcom game till free trial or at least 3 months aster release.

 i agree, and the same goes for EA.