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  Hatewall

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4/02/12 3:26:45 PM#61
Originally posted by Rhavens

Just a theory here

Look how the Star Wars franchise turned out in the last 15 years, a bellow average prequel (episoed 1, 2 and 3), bellow average video games (just can't name them all) except maybe SWG pre-CU, a poor cartoon tv show (clone wars of the mid 2000), a not so bad but childish cgi cartoon (clone wars of the last 4 years) and so on. I think Georges Lucas created a monster he couldn't handle and he just want people to stop asking for more of it. So he agrees to put on the market bellow average product so people get disappointed and bored of the monster he created.

Of course, that's just a theory but I can't figure out how he could be satisfied and proud of a game like this one, just plain ridiculous.

And yeah I know I played a lot of SWTOR but as a SW fan it was my duty and obligation to give it a good try, and I must sadly say that after a couple of months, I think SWTOR has very little to offer to a hardcore gamer and SW fan.

Here's the truth about Star Wars:

He had a good idea for a movie. A New Hope.

Stretched it into another good movie with a good director. Empire Strikes Back

Everything else has turned to garbage because Lucas has way too much involvement.

For all the cheering George Lucas has received over the years, he has a horrible track record with his own IP.

  gestalt11

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4/02/12 4:00:59 PM#62
Originally posted by Hatewall
Originally posted by Rhavens

Just a theory here

Look how the Star Wars franchise turned out in the last 15 years, a bellow average prequel (episoed 1, 2 and 3), bellow average video games (just can't name them all) except maybe SWG pre-CU, a poor cartoon tv show (clone wars of the mid 2000), a not so bad but childish cgi cartoon (clone wars of the last 4 years) and so on. I think Georges Lucas created a monster he couldn't handle and he just want people to stop asking for more of it. So he agrees to put on the market bellow average product so people get disappointed and bored of the monster he created.

Of course, that's just a theory but I can't figure out how he could be satisfied and proud of a game like this one, just plain ridiculous.

And yeah I know I played a lot of SWTOR but as a SW fan it was my duty and obligation to give it a good try, and I must sadly say that after a couple of months, I think SWTOR has very little to offer to a hardcore gamer and SW fan.

Here's the truth about Star Wars:

He had a good idea for a movie. A New Hope.

Stretched it into another good movie with a good director. Empire Strikes Back

Everything else has turned to garbage because Lucas has way too much involvement.

For all the cheering George Lucas has received over the years, he has a horrible track record with his own IP.

Georage Lucas doesn't really bother with much besides the movies.  He delegates almost all the secondary and tertiary IP usages to other people.  He has never given a rat's ass about any SW stuff that is outside the movies and has said so publically.  As far as he is concerned its about money and making sure they just don't get too crazy and start seeing Buck Roger's and his wookie jamboree.  Which is clearly non-canon as Buck Rogers is on earth in the 25th century which is clearly neither long ago nor in a galaxy far far away.

 

Many people say Empire Strikes Back is the best movie.  Its no coincidence that the screenplay was done by a professional and they had a different director (Lucas still did the overall plot).

Sometimes Lucas' delgations pay off, some times they don't.  In general I think Lucas is a someone who writes good plots, has terrible charactierization, and writes awful dialog.  When he writes the plot and lets other people do the other stuff you get some great shit.

 

As for the other stuff its complete hit or miss and has little to do with Lucas himself.  There has been great stuff (Jedi academy, Tie fighter) and bad stuff.

As for SWG and SWTOR both of those are more about the MMORPG industry and the fact that they were done by SOE and EA after other previous successes.  It just soulless big money chasing after sure things.  Which is fine but is bound to stifle creativity.

  stormseekaz

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4/03/12 10:07:49 AM#63

Gamestop and others finally jumped on the bandwagon and uploaded their own higher quality versions...  here is a much higher quality version with no commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6-eId8rgyc

This original video the OP linked from youtube user Thox was at 400 views when this thread was started.   Now its at 170,000.  Thats pretty dang viral.

  RefMinor

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4/03/12 10:13:27 AM#64
And somewhere just out of shot, a Wookie quietly weeps.

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  Darth-Batman

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4/03/12 10:19:57 AM#65

Maybe Lucas Arts and EA/Bioware are having a contest to see who can butcher the Star Wars IP better...

  DeaconX

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4/03/12 10:52:37 AM#66

My love for Star Wars has taken many hits... this is ... just... wow...

I think at some point George Lucas actually started to hate Star Wars and might be trying to destroy completely now...

 

Originally posted by punchrx

Maybe Lucas Arts and EA/Bioware are having a contest to see who can butcher the Star Wars IP better...

LOL ouch!


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  dronfwar

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Joined: 10/14/11
Posts: 322

1+1=1
(IMO)

4/03/12 10:58:52 AM#67
Originally posted by stormseekaz

 

Heres another one, this one is a crappy parody though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbO5S3Fv53Q

"big big shit, big big shit"

the music makes me feel physically sick. dance hero reskin, you shot the bird, standing ovations.

  Whiskey_Sam

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Nemo me impune lacessit.

4/03/12 5:56:40 PM#68

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  DeaconX

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4/03/12 6:02:05 PM#69
Originally posted by Whiskey_Sam

It gets worse. http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-11337-See-Darth-Vader--Boba-Fett--Princess-Leia---The-Emperor-Dance-in-Kinect-Star-Wars.html

This is the STAR WAR CHRISTMAS SPECIAL of Star Wars video games lol.  SO...very painful... to watch.


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  BigHatLogan

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4/03/12 6:03:24 PM#70

Seems perfectly inline with other star wars products.  Can't compare it to the original trilogy of course, but how about the Christmas Special?  Or Episode's 1 through 3?  Or SWTOR?  Star Wars has been nothing but crap since Return of the Jedi.

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  GeezerGamer

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Joined: 4/03/12
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Who ever said "Familiarity breeds contempt" didn't have an internet connection.

4/03/12 6:10:24 PM#71

Star Wars is a shell of it's former self. 

I was around when Star Wars was just Star Wars. When Episode IV was really Episode I and the only thing "A New Hope" meant was that this time, mom and dad could drive you to the theater in time to get tickets before it sold out again.

I never bought into the change from ESB to RoTJ where Vader went from killing Luke's Dad, to being Luke's dad. Sorry, but Kenobi's "Many of the truthes we cling to speech" didn't wash with me when I was a kid and it doesn't now.

Lucas changed his story in mid stride. And for me, the change has never brought the story back to what it should have been.

 

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  Scorchien

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4/03/12 6:15:08 PM#72

   Lol... and yet it still looks more immersive , with better VOs than EA/Bio latest attempt at the SW ip...

  evilastro

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4/03/12 6:16:30 PM#73

The lyrics are so cheesy too, its actually pretty funny. Theres one where a Twi'lek sings that she "ain't no holograph girl" to Gwen Stefani.

I mean, I know it is demeaning a beloved part of my childhood, but I couldnt stop myself from laughing at how corny it is.

  Vesavius

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4/03/12 6:17:42 PM#74

You people defended glow stick lightsabre dancing in SWTOR, but you have a problem with this?

 

 

  Whiskey_Sam

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4/03/12 6:29:30 PM#75
Originally posted by Vesavius

You people defended glow stick lightsabre dancing in SWTOR, but you have a problem with this?

 

 

Yeah, I'm not seeing a fundamental difference between this and huttball.

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  evilastro

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I can count to purple backwards!

4/03/12 6:57:44 PM#76

I dont understand why anyone could hate seeing Darth Vader and the Emperor dancing to Deadmou5. Sooo much win!

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4/03/12 7:04:50 PM#77

that is the funniest thing i have ever seen!

 

  Hopscotch73

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4/03/12 8:12:20 PM#78

Props for the Hologram Girl one, very clever.

As usual the Empire has all the best moves.

Wai so srs people?

Should be evident now that your standard Star Wars fan cares more about the IP than Lucas has for years. Once you accept that the nerdrage will evaporate.

 

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