Originally posted by Isasis

WoW was my first MMO and only one I ever actually played. I tried a lot of others but they all sucked compared to WoW. I even tried EVE, but the community was horrible compared to WoW's community.

 

I avoided playing SWTOR because of all the hate it gets, but yesterday I bought it and played all day. And wow! This just overtook WoW for me. The world (on origin world, and it only gets bigger) is huge. Graphics are top notch, in terms of art style and the customization for characters is amazing. But what really stands this MMO apart from the others is the amazing voice acting. It is better than Tortage in AoC, the only good part of that MMO. I just love going through this huge story that other MMOs just don't have.

 

I mentioned graphics, which are amazing and some of the best of any MMO. But the animations and cut scenes really make it. I've played SWTOR for about 10 hours now and having the most fun I've had in an MMO. My guy is a Sith Sorceror and its amazing going pewpewpew.

 

Also, the community is actually better than WoW's, which a lot of MMOs fail in that regard. There are people all over the place going about their business, chat isn't full of trolls complaining about WoW and getting groups is incredibly easy. This is probably a better grouping game than WoW, which already was good for groups.

 

Anyway I'll end this year as I know a lot are like "tldr"...so to sum it up: Best MMO since WoW, maybe the best MMO ever and everything about SWTOR is amazing. Never have I been so into a story in a game, MMO or not. Will definitely easily have 10 million subscribers or more if they keep coming out with updates.

I see what you did here...   My only question is:   Did you bite your tongue?  

Originally posted by Jason2444
 

Originally posted by korent1991

He's not trolling. We were all once like him

I went with tongue-in-cheeck, dead-pan sarcasm.   

Must resist urge to post nasty commentrff's fg.fgd/sfsf///gdfyashr4u6845w78

Originally posted by Jason2444

Originally posted by korent1991

He's not trolling. I WAS once like him

Edited for you.

Originally posted by Isasis

WoW was my first MMO and only one I ever actually played. I tried a lot of others but they all sucked compared to WoW. I even tried EVE, but the community was horrible compared to WoW's community.

 

I avoided playing SWTOR because of all the hate it gets, but yesterday I bought it and played all day. And wow! This just overtook WoW for me. The world (on origin world, and it only gets bigger) is huge. Graphics are top notch, in terms of art style and the customization for characters is amazing. But what really stands this MMO apart from the others is the amazing voice acting. It is better than Tortage in AoC, the only good part of that MMO. I just love going through this huge story that other MMOs just don't have.

 

I mentioned graphics, which are amazing and some of the best of any MMO. But the animations and cut scenes really make it. I've played SWTOR for about 10 hours now and having the most fun I've had in an MMO. My guy is a Sith Sorceror and its amazing going pewpewpew.

 

Also, the community is actually better than WoW's, which a lot of MMOs fail in that regard. There are people all over the place going about their business, chat isn't full of trolls complaining about WoW and getting groups is incredibly easy. This is probably a better grouping game than WoW, which already was good for groups.

 

Anyway I'll end this year as I know a lot are like "tldr"...so to sum it up: Best MMO since WoW, maybe the best MMO ever and everything about SWTOR is amazing. Never have I been so into a story in a game, MMO or not. Will definitely easily have 10 million subscribers or more if they keep coming out with updates.

 Swtor is bad but wow is worse.

Originally posted by Loke666

I don't see it ever getting 10 million players, do you even understand how many players that are?

TOR is already the second largest MMO who ever came out, few games before it have topped even one million players and none have kept them past a month.

But TOR is too close to a singleplayer game to ever have that many players, it is mainly focused on telling a story but both the PvP and endgame are far from perfect and still need a lot of work.

If the game would have been F2P or B2P 10 millions are possible, but I don't see it happening now, I don't see it come up to 10 million boxes sold ever. You can actually count the PC games that sold that well on the fingers on your left hand (The Sims (1, 2 & 3), World of Warcraft, Half-Life 2, StarCraft and Battlefield 2), yeah, I count all the sims as one game but they each sold over 10 million copies.

TOR is not a bad game but I think it will be hit rather hard when GW2 releases. While GW2 have less of a story it offers as least as much other stuff without a monthly fee.

Not even close.  

Aion peaked at 4 million and still has 2.5 million subs and is converting to F2P.   Lineage  peaked at 3.25 million.    Lineage II peaked at 2.1 million and SWTOR will never pass that seeing that they couldn't even keep the 1.7 million they had in December.   Guild Wars 1 sold over 6.5 million.

This must be an early April Fool's joke. I did laugh alot, thanks!

Originally posted by Gajari

Originally posted by korent1991

Originally posted by StoneRoses

Originally posted by Loke666

I don't see it ever getting 10 million players, do you even understand how many players that are?

TOR is already the second largest MMO who ever came out, few games before it have topped even one million players and none have kept them past a month.

But TOR is too close to a singleplayer game to ever have that many players, it is mainly focused on telling a story but both the PvP and endgame are far from perfect and still need a lot of work.

If the game would have been F2P or B2P 10 millions are possible, but I don't see it happening now, I don't see it come up to 10 million boxes sold ever. You can actually count the PC games that sold that well on the fingers on your left hand (The Sims (1, 2 & 3), World of Warcraft, Half-Life 2, StarCraft and Battlefield 2), yeah, I count all the sims as one game but they each sold over 10 million copies.

TOR is not a bad game but I think it will be hit rather hard when GW2 releases. While GW2 have less of a story it offers as least as much other stuff without a monthly fee.

/sigh

WTF is wrong with folks!

Why is it always about numbers? To be honest, of all your post this right here suprises me the most.

Also to mention again how some of you continue to label it as a SIngleplayer game.

-Flashpoints

-World Bosses (at various lvls)

-Heroic Missions

-Operations

-Pvp (Premades)

The players make the choice to engange with other fellow players in game not the game itself.

The very exact and same tool used in even before WoW is still there; Chat Box.

 

Because it FEELS like it is a signleplayer game when you're playing it... Atleast it did for me, and the server population didn't help a bit there since it suddenly dropped after the honeymoon...

The game doesn't feel like it's worth the money, in my opinion.. That's why I unsubbued.

I gotta say, while I don't feel the game is worthy of my sub, as well, it feeling like a single player game was never an issue. It actually felt more multiplayer than any other MMO I've played in a while because of heroic areas and stuff. At the very least, it never felt any less multiplayer than other games. So I honestly have no clue why anyone would feel this way in SWTOR.

That being said, they still could have tried harder to make the game even MORE multiplayer, but that would have required thinking out of the box, which apparently BioWare isn't good at anymore. :p

There is no pleasing some of you! Sometimes I feel many of you are so ungreatful.

2004Edit

Early in the year - World of Warcraft Beta testing

November 23 - World of Warcraft launches in North America, Australia and New Zealand.

• Starting level cap is 60
• Only Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor available at launch.
• Starting races:
  • Alliance: Human, Dwarf, Night Elf, Gnome
  • Horde: Orc, Troll, Undead, Tauren

November 24 - WoWWiki Launched^[2]

December 18 - Patch 1.2.0

• Maraudon added

2005Edit

February 11 - World of Warcraft launches in Europe

March 7 - Patch 1.3.0

• Dire Maul added

March 23 - The first legendary item ever to appear to players in the game drops, [Talisman of Binding Shard]. It is immediately hotfixed out of the game.

April 8 - Patch 1.4.0

• PvP Honor System

May - The Leeroy Jenkins video becomes popular^[3]

June 7 - Patch 1.5.0

• Battlegrounds introduced
  • Warsong Gulch
  • Alterac Valley

July 12 - Patch 1.6.0

• Blackwing Lair added
• Darkmoon Faire added

September 13 - Patch 1.7.0

• Zul'Gurub added
• Arathi Basin battleground added
• Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza
• Corrupted Blood begins as the result of a glitch in Zul'Gurub^[4]

October 28–29 - BlizzCon

• Burning Crusade announced

October 10 - Patch 1.8.0

• Corrupted Blood fixed

November 16 - World of Warcraft is featured in a question on the game show Jeopardy!

• None of the three players knew the answer.

OP you will be sick of it soon. It's a flop of a game sorry to say.

Im sorry not to be rude but not only is SWTOR garbage but so is every other AAA title thats dropped since WoW. Games keep my attention longer than the free month? Hell they cant even keep my attention longer than a week. AoC,WAR,DF,FFXIV,CoX,CO,DCUO,Rift,Aion list goes on and on.

Same old blah blah blah kill x and bring me x skins. Go fetch that water. Go kill 10 of x and wait 5 mins to see all the mobs you killed right back where they were killed, same group, doing the same animations. But the quest giver praises me on culling the population or saving the town even though in a few mins NOTHING is different all mobs are respawned and I just look for the next exclamation mark to point me to more mindless nothingness.

Oh look another big giant boss that just stands still and lets us all shoot pretty magics and swing big swords and axes at it until it dies. Oh did I mention 96% of the time we are all just standing still too? Oh yeah a couple big BIG fights require you to move your character 5 feet. Tough fights man way tough. Oh and you have to point bosses away from everyone. Nerve wracking huh?

I just cant stand the genre anymore and everyday I come here to this website waiting to see something that rekindles the love I had for MMOs.

Im sure GW2 will come out and have some gamebreaking bug that was unforseen, and then lose 70% of the population while telling us, "Hey folks sorry for making another bug filled crap MMO that only works half of the time, but just wait for MIRACLE PATCH 1.2 and we will make it right. Right?

This isn't an MMO this is an RPG with a few Multiplayer options. End of story. KOTOR3

soon back to WoW garantee !!!

Originally posted by Calhoun619

Im sorry not to be rude but not only is SWTOR garbage but so is every other AAA title thats dropped since WoW. Games keep my attention longer than the free month? Hell they cant even keep my attention longer than a week. AoC,WAR,DF,FFXIV,CoX,CO,DCUO,Rift,Aion list goes on and on.

Same old blah blah blah kill x and bring me x skins. Go fetch that water. Go kill 10 of x and wait 5 mins to see all the mobs you killed right back where they were killed, same group, doing the same animations. But the quest giver praises me on culling the population or saving the town even though in a few mins NOTHING is different all mobs are respawned and I just look for the next exclamation mark to point me to more mindless nothingness.

Oh look another big giant boss that just stands still and lets us all shoot pretty magics and swing big swords and axes at it until it dies. Oh did I mention 96% of the time we are all just standing still too? Oh yeah a couple big BIG fights require you to move your character 5 feet. Tough fights man way tough. Oh and you have to point bosses away from everyone. Nerve wracking huh?

I just cant stand the genre anymore and everyday I come here to this website waiting to see something that rekindles the love I had for MMOs.

I couldnt agree more

Originally posted by Calhoun619

Im sorry not to be rude but not only is SWTOR garbage but so is every other AAA title thats dropped since WoW. Games keep my attention longer than the free month? Hell they cant even keep my attention longer than a week. AoC,WAR,DF,FFXIV,CoX,CO,DCUO,Rift,Aion list goes on and on.

Same old blah blah blah kill x and bring me x skins. Go fetch that water. Go kill 10 of x and wait 5 mins to see all the mobs you killed right back where they were killed, same group, doing the same animations. But the quest giver praises me on culling the population or saving the town even though in a few mins NOTHING is different all mobs are respawned and I just look for the next exclamation mark to point me to more mindless nothingness.

Oh look another big giant boss that just stands still and lets us all shoot pretty magics and swing big swords and axes at it until it dies. Oh did I mention 96% of the time we are all just standing still too? Oh yeah a couple big BIG fights require you to move your character 5 feet. Tough fights man way tough. Oh and you have to point bosses away from everyone. Nerve wracking huh?

I just cant stand the genre anymore and everyday I come here to this website waiting to see something that rekindles the love I had for MMOs.

Im sure GW2 will come out and have some gamebreaking bug that was unforseen, and then lose 70% of the population while telling us, "Hey folks sorry for making another bug filled crap MMO that only works half of the time, but just wait for MIRACLE PATCH 1.2 and we will make it right. Right?

 

I agree with this 100%. I totaly want to play an MMO, but I just cant find a game thats not just a shitty wow clone. I have all but given up now, and my last hopes are in Guild wars 2.

Leveling up is the fun bit, Then it's downhill.

I'd have to agree since a ton of MMOs that came out since WoW have sucked.  SWTOR isn't a bad game, it's just a little stiff.

Originally posted by Isasis

 

Also, the community is actually better than WoW's, which a lot of MMOs fail in that regard. There are people all over the place going about their business, chat isn't full of trolls complaining about WoW and getting groups is incredibly easy. This is probably a better grouping game than WoW, which already was good for groups.

 

 Wow was the first game in history with a hostile community some games has copied that from wow and are therfore wowo clones.

Originally posted by dubyahite
Amazing. You guys can't comprehend it accept the fact that there are actually people out there that enjoy this game. So when someone posts that they do like it you accuse him of trolling.


Im sorry, but yours is not the only opinion that matters.

The OP is clearly enjoying the game. he's not alone either.

 Im sorry, but the OP said SWTOR is the best MMO since WoW. Im not calling him a troll or even down talking the fact he like SWTOR. My point is simply look at what you have thats also come out since then to compare SWTOR too.

Realistically is SWTOR being the "best" MMO to come out since WoW really saying anything? Is that really something to be proud of with the current state of this genre where it is?

IMHO its like saying "hey those other 50 turds hit the water in the toilet, but ours is clinging to the side of the toilet still dry!!!"

Not something I would go bragging about personally.

Originally posted by Calhoun619

Im sorry not to be rude but not only is SWTOR garbage but so is every other AAA title thats dropped since WoW. Games keep my attention longer than the free month? Hell they cant even keep my attention longer than a week. AoC,WAR,DF,FFXIV,CoX,CO,DCUO,Rift,Aion list goes on and on.

Same old blah blah blah kill x and bring me x skins. Go fetch that water. Go kill 10 of x and wait 5 mins to see all the mobs you killed right back where they were killed, same group, doing the same animations. But the quest giver praises me on culling the population or saving the town even though in a few mins NOTHING is different all mobs are respawned and I just look for the next exclamation mark to point me to more mindless nothingness.

Oh look another big giant boss that just stands still and lets us all shoot pretty magics and swing big swords and axes at it until it dies. Oh did I mention 96% of the time we are all just standing still too? Oh yeah a couple big BIG fights require you to move your character 5 feet. Tough fights man way tough. Oh and you have to point bosses away from everyone. Nerve wracking huh?

I just cant stand the genre anymore and everyday I come here to this website waiting to see something that rekindles the love I had for MMOs.

Im sure GW2 will come out and have some gamebreaking bug that was unforseen, and then lose 70% of the population while telling us, "Hey folks sorry for making another bug filled crap MMO that only works half of the time, but just wait for MIRACLE PATCH 1.2 and we will make it right. Right?

Hmm. Saw this post, felt like reacting.

If you're unable to enjoy MMO's anymore of the past 8 years, don't you think that maybe the problem lies with you?

It sounds like someone saying, 'yeah, sure I'm a music fan, I just don't like any music at all that has come out the past 10 years.' Or someone claiming 'sure I love tv shows, only nothing that has been made the past 10-15 years'.

I don't see such persons as allround music fans or MMORPG fans at all, if you can only enjoy 1 out of every 20-30 MMO's or even less. Or if they're MMO fans, then they're fans with a very narrow, restricted taste.

Not just with MMO's, with every field: if someone hates or dislikes over 95% of what can be found in that genre, or only 1 branch of that field, then that person isn't a true fan of that genre.

If the only sport you're passionate about is basketball and the rest not, then you're a basketball fan, not a sports fan, if someone only loves heavy metal and doesn't care at all about as good as all other music categories, then that person isn't really a music fan, but just a heavy metal fan.

Same with MMO's: if you only love 1 out 20 or out of 100 available MMO's, then you're not a MMO fan as someone who loves the MMO genre, but just a fan of that 1 game or the subcategory it belongs to.