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  JoeyMMO

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3/31/12 5:30:22 AM#241
Originally posted by LeegOfChldrn

Is it just me or am I the only male who isn't so perverse and uncontrollable that they never even fathomed about staring at the butts of their characters while they played?

 

Honestly, before I read it on the internet, I never even fathomed the common excuse "I dont want to stare at a guy's butt all day when playing a game! Gimme some of dat girl booty!"

 

No offense and I don't mean to sound elitist or better-than-animal, but I don't stare at anyone's butts when I play games. If I want to stare at butts, I put down my games and go do something else. I play games to have fun, not to multi-task to grind and masturbate.

Mostly I stare at whats infront of my character, or my character's weapon or chest armor or cape, not their butts. Nor do my natural instincts ever cause my eyes to drift to a male's butt.

 

Sometimes I wonder if the people who use that excuse "I'd rather look at a girls butt when playing than a male butt." are closet homosexuals living in severe fear of coming out. If you are so tempted to look at male butts when playing a male character, then try coming to terms with your sexuality instead of trying to avoid it in fear by trying to force yourself to look at a female butt.

Maybe they just prefer to look at female toons,over looking at male toons. I wouldn't think that a guy that prefers to look at a female absolutely has to be homosexual. I really don't follow your logic. Whatever pleases the eye. If in your case that's a male character, then that's your preference. That's all.

  FrostWyrm

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3/31/12 6:14:57 AM#242
Originally posted by Classicstar

 


Originally posted by FrostWyrm


Originally posted by Vhaln


Originally posted by Banquetto

 



Originally posted by FrostWyrm
I think what disturbs a lot of people is the fact that this often goes the other way around. A lot (not all) of male players that play female characters either do so specifically to mess with and/or receive special treatment from other male players through flirtatious actions while some others do it because they're gay (please note, I have nothing against gays) and just want to flirt with guys.




A lot? Really? I'd be surprised if it was really "a lot" given that I've been playing MMORPGs (many different games) as my primary leisure pursuit for eight years now and I have never seen any male player do that.

 


 
Yeah, I think people who think that's "a lot" of it, still aren't quite getting it.  Some of us just like playing female characters.  It really has nothing to do with anyone else.
 
The only thing that bugs me is that its become so common, especially in games like Aion.  Just feels a bit immersion breaking when most of the population consists of females - who mostly look like strippers and models, of course.



Not sure what part of "not all" you guys didn't catch. There's no need to get so defensive. If you're not one of the ones that do, you're not one of the ones that do. I'm not attacking anyone here.
The truth of the matter is, however, that there are a great deal of people who actually do this. I've known plenty of people who openly admit to it; I've seen people do so who dont admit to it; I've seen people do so unintentionally when some guy starts flirting with them and helping them out and they just go along with it for the easy ride.


If there is one who dont get it its you and your GAY remarks is clearly from someone who hate gay,s. Your whole reply is offensive and prejudice so its logical some are on defensive mode when a narrowminded reply like this pop up on forum.

You guys need to relax and respect others dicisions instead condem it OPEN your mind free up space in your brain for love and understanding instead of hunting down those who dont think like you and try CRUCIFY them like in the DARK AGES.

We still live in freeworld so give up your witchhunt or go live in ...(fill in country that aloud such condemnations) or something where you can condem others for eternity we dont need you here:P

Um....what?

I think you misunderstood my last post. I didn't mention anything about gays. I was talking about guys who use female characters to get free help, items, and favors from other guys in MMOs.

How you took that as gay bashing is beyond me. Maybe you're the prejudice one here to think such a thing.

  Icewhite

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3/31/12 6:28:49 AM#243
Originally posted by Elikal

And that is what I don't get

Roleplaying?  No worries, 99% of the modern gaming population doesn't.

But the topic is tired, dust blowing in the Sahara.  The responses are rote.

Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  Sanguinelust

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broken

3/31/12 6:35:41 AM#244

As I've said before, when you play these games you are basicly playing with electronic dolls. So who cares what sex they are ultimately? Also anyone who thinks of thier e-dolls as love interests, or even little mini e-me's needs to have their heads examined. It's a game, IT IS NOT A LIFE. Get over it and concern yourself about something that really matters.

  gladosrev2

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3/31/12 6:45:15 AM#245

By this logic you must be really freaked out if someone plays a necromancer skeleton dude, or a small guinea pig creature, like Asura, or even a big cow or a huge cat person.. regardless of gender xD

The whole point of MMO''s is to be someone else, therefore it is *weird* that you would want to play someone that looks like you ;) So back at ya :P

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  FrostWyrm

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3/31/12 7:01:57 AM#246
Originally posted by gladosrev2

By this logic you must be really freaked out if someone plays a necromancer skeleton dude, or a small guinea pig creature, like Asura, or even a big cow or a huge cat person.. regardless of gender xD

The whole point of MMO''s is to be someone else, therefore it is *weird* that you would want to play someone that looks like you ;) So back at ya :P

You are a little incorrect, sir, and here's why...

There is no predifined way to enjoy a game that doesn't involve superceding the TOS.

 

This means that everyone is free to play their character however they like. It simply leads to a conflict of interests among players. Really, though, who wants to play in a world where everyone is the same?

  ThemePork

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3/31/12 8:16:03 AM#247

In older MMOs where the worlds were so immersive that you'd end up identifying with your toon, yeah I was also slightly spooked by guys playing female toons. Now it's a different story. MMOs are horrible and totally unemmersive, I no longer indentify with my toons and I don't think anyone else does either. So who cares what gender people play, it's just a toon in a video game, not an alter ego in a virtual world.

  jayarte

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3/31/12 1:53:09 PM#248
Originally posted by bunnyhopper

I like looking at my ships ass in EVE.

^^

  rojoArcueid

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3/31/12 2:00:27 PM#249

i roll female characters only when i like the character models but i dont feel like role playing storywise, so i usually have both male and female characters. If the game has a really good and in depth Lore i role play a male toon and try to take my toon deep in the story. Also when i roll a female i dont go around behaving like one -.- lol so i feel as normal as if im rolling a male toon. Its a game after all, im not dressing like a gal and going out role playing a one in RL (although it sounds like a fun halloween costume).

Its all fun and games until someone rolls a female toon and pretends to be one....

  Terranah

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3/31/12 2:52:35 PM#250

Now that I reflect back on it, I think that like you Elikal, I have created characters that represented aspects of my personality.  To be honest, most of my mains have been male since Precu SWG, with the exception of APB which I also loved.

 

First off,  working in the healthcare field and having that natural, nurturing inclination, it doesn't seem to far a stretch to aknowledge that I might feel very comfortable playing a female avatar, since in our society females are often times considered to be more the nurturing gender.  Also, I was raised by women and work overwhelmingly with women, so again there is this comfort relating to the female gender.

 

Secondly, I am very creative.  I write short stories, poetry, draw, paint and sculpt.  I think for me personally, if I were to personify creativity and inspiration and give it a gender, it would be female.  But that is just my perception. Maybe this is a hard concept for people to related to though, not sure.

 

Thirdly, on a subconscious level I believe I may have a higher than average ability to empathize, as evidenced by the fact that when I dream, I often dream I am other people.  I will dream that I am different races, sometimes male, sometimes female.  Sometimes I dream that I live in other times.  I usually observe the dream from what I call God mode, watching the participants within the dream as events unfold, and then I become someone in the dream.  But that ability to empathize to such a degree I feel is also a femine trait or quality.  But again, perhaps this is just my prejudice.

 

So when I created my first and second mmo character in Precu SWG, it was very natural that I pick a female character even though I am male.  She represented my creative, adventurous and empathetic aspect, because I had grown tired of killing in fps and wanted to express another side of myself.  I had no intention of tricking people, getting free stuff, or acting out on some closeted gay fantasy.  I'm very straight.  I love women on every level, beyond even the physical.  There is no taboo against being gay in my psyche or my social circle and I would freely admit it if that were the case.  But I am hopelessly straight and am very happy.

 

My third character in PreCu SWG was a male.  I suppose he represented me in my totality  with my male personality traits more strongly personified.  But I started him out as a skinny little freckled red headed kid.  Creating him was like...giving birth to the real me.  My friends in my clan immediately adopted him and over the course of many months he grew (with the help of a master image designer) from an impetuous boy into a dutiful solider of the Empire, which happened to feel conflicted about his role in the war and was in love with a Rebel woman.  

 

From that point on I've almost exclusively played male characters, but I do like to make a female character now and again, and when I do people are usually convinced that I am a woman.  I'm a good actor, or maybe I'm not acting but just expressing that creative, nurturing, empathetic aspect that is my nature.  But no game since PreCu SWG has inspired my role playing instincts very strongly.  I feel very sad about this, but I need an open world to live and play in.  My creative mind is too big to be boxed in by some little sharded, theme park world.

 

Sorry this got so long, but I have no world to live in right now, just my imagination and sometimes forum boards.  I thought I would give a more thoughtful answer than usual and it got overlong.

 

 

 

  Vidir

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3/31/12 2:56:40 PM#251
Originally posted by Magaskaweel

I guess most of us dont make a character so we can fantasize about boning them. Maybe we just want a good looking character. For alot of straight guys, a good looking character is a woman.

 Agreed.

  Terranah

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3/31/12 3:04:46 PM#252
Originally posted by Vidir
Originally posted by Magaskaweel

I guess most of us dont make a character so we can fantasize about boning them. Maybe we just want a good looking character. For alot of straight guys, a good looking character is a woman.

 Agreed.

I think this is also very true.  There are times when one gender does not look as good in game as the other.  In that case I tend to pick the character that looks the most pleasing to my artistic eye.

  terrant

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3/31/12 3:10:35 PM#253

Here's the thing: I play whatever the heck I think looks fun or fits the character. My shaman in wow is female. Why? Male Draenei look ridiculous in anything but plate.My slayer in the Tera beta last week was an Elin. Was it because I have an unhealthy fascination with little girls? Nope, it's because I found the idea of a little girl with a sword 4x bigger than her hilarious. And the animations were cute and funny.

 

I've always loved the "I don't wanna state at a male character's ass all day" line. If you're looking at your character's butt, chances are you're not paying attention to something on screen you might want to. Like, you know...the entire friggin game.

  Elikal

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OP  3/31/12 3:15:15 PM#254
Originally posted by Terranah

Now that I reflect back on it, I think that like you Elikal, I have created characters that represented aspects of my personality.  To be honest, most of my mains have been male since Precu SWG, with the exception of APB which I also loved.

 

First off,  working in the healthcare field and having that natural, nurturing inclination, it doesn't seem to far a stretch to aknowledge that I might feel very comfortable playing a female avatar, since in our society females are often times considered to be more the nurturing gender.  Also, I was raised by women and work overwhelmingly with women, so again there is this comfort relating to the female gender.

 

Secondly, I am very creative.  I write short stories, poetry, draw, paint and sculpt.  I think for me personally, if I were to personify creativity and inspiration and give it a gender, it would be female.  But that is just my perception. Maybe this is a hard concept for people to related to though, not sure.

 

Thirdly, on a subconscious level I believe I may have a higher than average ability to empathize, as evidenced by the fact that when I dream, I often dream I am other people.  I will dream that I am different races, sometimes male, sometimes female.  Sometimes I dream that I live in other times.  I usually observe the dream from what I call God mode, watching the participants within the dream as events unfold, and then I become someone in the dream.  But that ability to empathize to such a degree I feel is also a femine trait or quality.  But again, perhaps this is just my prejudice.

 

So when I created my first and second mmo character in Precu SWG, it was very natural that I pick a female character even though I am male.  She represented my creative, adventurous and empathetic aspect, because I had grown tired of killing in fps and wanted to express another side of myself.  I had no intention of tricking people, getting free stuff, or acting out on some closeted gay fantasy.  I'm very straight.  I love women on every level, beyond even the physical.  There is no taboo against being gay in my psyche or my social circle and I would freely admit it if that were the case.  But I am hopelessly straight and am very happy.

 

My third character in PreCu SWG was a male.  I suppose he represented me in my totality  with my male personality traits more strongly personified.  But I started him out as a skinny little freckled red headed kid.  Creating him was like...giving birth to the real me.  My friends in my clan immediately adopted him and over the course of many months he grew (with the help of a master image designer) from an impetuous boy into a dutiful solider of the Empire, which happened to feel conflicted about his role in the war and was in love with a Rebel woman.  

 

From that point on I've almost exclusively played male characters, but I do like to make a female character now and again, and when I do people are usually convinced that I am a woman.  I'm a good actor, or maybe I'm not acting but just expressing that creative, nurturing, empathetic aspect that is my nature.  But no game since PreCu SWG has inspired my role playing instincts very strongly.  I feel very sad about this, but I need an open world to live and play in.  My creative mind is too big to be boxed in by some little sharded, theme park world.

 

Sorry this got so long, but I have no world to live in right now, just my imagination and sometimes forum boards.  I thought I would give a more thoughtful answer than usual and it got overlong.

 

 

 

Hm, interesting. I can kinda understand that, though I must say I have no connection to an "Inner female side". I doubt I even have one. ^^ But I can rationally understand what you say.

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  Terranah

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3/31/12 3:22:51 PM#255
Originally posted by Elikal
Originally posted by Terranah

Now that I reflect back on it, I think that like you Elikal, I have created characters that represented aspects of my personality.  To be honest, most of my mains have been male since Precu SWG, with the exception of APB which I also loved.

 

First off,  working in the healthcare field and having that natural, nurturing inclination, it doesn't seem to far a stretch to aknowledge that I might feel very comfortable playing a female avatar, since in our society females are often times considered to be more the nurturing gender.  Also, I was raised by women and work overwhelmingly with women, so again there is this comfort relating to the female gender.

 

Secondly, I am very creative.  I write short stories, poetry, draw, paint and sculpt.  I think for me personally, if I were to personify creativity and inspiration and give it a gender, it would be female.  But that is just my perception. Maybe this is a hard concept for people to related to though, not sure.

 

Thirdly, on a subconscious level I believe I may have a higher than average ability to empathize, as evidenced by the fact that when I dream, I often dream I am other people.  I will dream that I am different races, sometimes male, sometimes female.  Sometimes I dream that I live in other times.  I usually observe the dream from what I call God mode, watching the participants within the dream as events unfold, and then I become someone in the dream.  But that ability to empathize to such a degree I feel is also a femine trait or quality.  But again, perhaps this is just my prejudice.

 

So when I created my first and second mmo character in Precu SWG, it was very natural that I pick a female character even though I am male.  She represented my creative, adventurous and empathetic aspect, because I had grown tired of killing in fps and wanted to express another side of myself.  I had no intention of tricking people, getting free stuff, or acting out on some closeted gay fantasy.  I'm very straight.  I love women on every level, beyond even the physical.  There is no taboo against being gay in my psyche or my social circle and I would freely admit it if that were the case.  But I am hopelessly straight and am very happy.

 

My third character in PreCu SWG was a male.  I suppose he represented me in my totality  with my male personality traits more strongly personified.  But I started him out as a skinny little freckled red headed kid.  Creating him was like...giving birth to the real me.  My friends in my clan immediately adopted him and over the course of many months he grew (with the help of a master image designer) from an impetuous boy into a dutiful solider of the Empire, which happened to feel conflicted about his role in the war and was in love with a Rebel woman.  

 

From that point on I've almost exclusively played male characters, but I do like to make a female character now and again, and when I do people are usually convinced that I am a woman.  I'm a good actor, or maybe I'm not acting but just expressing that creative, nurturing, empathetic aspect that is my nature.  But no game since PreCu SWG has inspired my role playing instincts very strongly.  I feel very sad about this, but I need an open world to live and play in.  My creative mind is too big to be boxed in by some little sharded, theme park world.

 

Sorry this got so long, but I have no world to live in right now, just my imagination and sometimes forum boards.  I thought I would give a more thoughtful answer than usual and it got overlong.

 

 

 

Hm, interesting. I can kinda understand that, though I must say I have no connection to an "Inner female side". I doubt I even have one. ^^ But I can rationally understand what you say.

Thanks, Elikal :)

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3/31/12 3:24:28 PM#256


Originally posted by terrant
Here's the thing: I play whatever the heck I think looks fun or fits the character. My shaman in wow is female. Why? Male Draenei look ridiculous in anything but plate.My slayer in the Tera beta last week was an Elin. Was it because I have an unhealthy fascination with little girls? Nope, it's because I found the idea of a little girl with a sword 4x bigger than her hilarious. And the animations were cute and funny.
 
I've always loved the "I don't wanna state at a male character's ass all day" line. If you're looking at your character's butt, chances are you're not paying attention to something on screen you might want to. Like, you know...the entire friggin game.

There are plenty of reasons to roll opposite genders.
-Animation preferences.
-Itemization preferences. My cloth toons are always female. It goes back to My Anarchy Online MA in wearing the pink Pepto-Dress. Now in new games, I can't stand Male mages in bathrobes.
-Coming up with witty clever names 1st may only fit a particular gender.

-And then of course there are those who download hacked mesh skins and dance naked on mailboxes.

  Lighten_Up

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3/31/12 3:27:54 PM#257

You are not your virtual-self.

  grimfall

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3/31/12 3:29:27 PM#258

The OP has some issues.  The assumption that anyone who creates an opposite sex character is doing it as an object of sexual desire could probably keep a therapist busy for a couple of years.  It has never even occured to me to do that, and I've created plenty of female characters.

It's like criticizing an author for writing female characters into his books.

  Searias

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3/31/12 4:50:15 PM#259
Originally posted by grimfall

The OP has some issues.  The assumption that anyone who creates an opposite sex character is doing it as an object of sexual desire could probably keep a therapist busy for a couple of years.  It has never even occured to me to do that, and I've created plenty of female characters.

It's like criticizing an author for writing female characters into his books.

I totally agree here. Don't mix sex and games together, there is nothing real there man. I just play whatever that looks nice, there is no sexual connotation involved whatsoever. Don't over think things like this, life is too complicated as it is.

  Zeblade

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3/31/12 5:04:28 PM#260

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My point is I didnt join the game to find out if your a real girl, guy or what ever.. Want to play the game together great! Other than that for me keep it to your self. For I DONT do this to others....

This is just text and not at ANYONE. This can of worms was opened not by me.

So relax let people play what they want and NOT worry about others. Its a GAME.. ignore those you dont like and PLAY.. its a GAME! lol .. drama drama drama....

 

 

 

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