..since this game first came out I still stutter like crazy when entering any city and every time I run into a chunk line its like hitting a brick wall for 3 -5 secs. To top it off i mentioned this ingame and was Still told its my pc thats the problem.

I thought they had solved these kind of performance issue long ago or were those die hard VG players jusy blowing smoke to try to get subs?

The game is like this. I have also made diffrent kind of upgrades but still have these kind of issues. Nothing to do :)  

I don't play the game but i'm sure it would help those who could answer your question if you told them what your upgrades were. You could have upgraded from a pentium 2 to a pentium 3 or a voodoo2 to sli 680gtx's for all anyone knows.

I have never had problems like that, the only thing I ever really noticed, aside from some graphical glitches was the loading when I would cross an invisible border into another area of the map, it would be like the loading screens from EQ except I never left the game world.

Chunk line, that is what I am talking about.

Then again with the game going free-to-play later this year I don't mind at all. It will be nice to play the game again with more people this time around.

Originally posted by Slampig

I have never had problems like that, the only thing I ever really noticed, aside from some graphical glitches was the loading when I would cross an invisible border into another area of the map, it would be like the loading screens from EQ except I never left the game world.

 

Chunk line, that is what I am talking about.

That is the problem we have :) 

I actually have worse problems with EQ2.

But yeah, SOEs engines are unoptimized and not that greatly coded (even if that really is Sigils fault here).

Originally posted by mymmo

Originally posted by Slampig

I have never had problems like that, the only thing I ever really noticed, aside from some graphical glitches was the loading when I would cross an invisible border into another area of the map, it would be like the loading screens from EQ except I never left the game world.

 

Chunk line, that is what I am talking about.

That is the problem we have :) 

 

Guys. Chunks are synonymous with  zones, a ton of stuff is loaded when you enter a chunk. The cool thing is a. you can see into it and b. there is no loading screen.

Everyone has this problem, the only way you can reduce it is a. Load all the chunk assets being loaded onto a RAM drive or b.use an SSD

I have an SSD i run  vanguard on and i still get a couple second pause when going over a chunk line, it is just the way it is and if you think about it, it is quite better than a loading screen.

People still play this game ?!?!

I remember years back at release it ran decently on medium settings for whatever rig I had at that time. 

Anyway, as others have stated, the engine is likely bad not your computer.  EQ2 has a horrible engine.  That game is many MANY years old and even on brand new top end gaming machines the engine can't handle maxed settings with much action on the screen.

Originally posted by Painlezz

People still play this game ?!?!

 

I remember years back at release it ran decently on medium settings for whatever rig I had at that time. 

Anyway, as others have stated, the engine is likely bad not your computer.  EQ2 has a horrible engine.  That game is many MANY years old and even on brand new top end gaming machines the engine can't handle maxed settings with much action on the screen.

EQ2 engine is worse than Vanguard. Vanguard uses Unreal 2.5 modified. I hear what you say about Eq2, it sadly is even MORE dependent on CPU power than VG is.

Originally posted by Painlezz

People still play this game ?!?!

 

I remember years back at release it ran decently on medium settings for whatever rig I had at that time. 

Anyway, as others have stated, the engine is likely bad not your computer.  EQ2 has a horrible engine.  That game is many MANY years old and even on brand new top end gaming machines the engine can't handle maxed settings with much action on the screen.

You are talking rubbish and yes people still play Vanguard,i'm one.

Anyway,yes EQ2 has a dodgy engine but on a top range pc it runs just fine.I have two boxed all my MMO including EQ2 and Vanguard.I run two version of the clients on high settings and one on ultra with 50fsp on each client so your observation is wrong.

Originally posted by allegria

Originally posted by mymmo

Originally posted by Slampig

I have never had problems like that, the only thing I ever really noticed, aside from some graphical glitches was the loading when I would cross an invisible border into another area of the map, it would be like the loading screens from EQ except I never left the game world.

 

Chunk line, that is what I am talking about.

That is the problem we have :) 

 

Guys. Chunks are synonymous with  zones, a ton of stuff is loaded when you enter a chunk. The cool thing is a. you can see into it and b. there is no loading screen.

Everyone has this problem, the only way you can reduce it is a. Load all the chunk assets being loaded onto a RAM drive or b.use an SSD

I have an SSD i run  vanguard on and i still get a couple second pause when going over a chunk line, it is just the way it is and if you think about it, it is quite better than a loading screen.

This..

Chunking when Vanguard was released was pretty bad even on a 8800gtx,the engine was just buggy on so many fronts.Now 5 plus years later it's nothing like it was at release.I cross a chunk and most times you cant even notice it and if you do we are talking seconds.

Going into khal will always give you a bit of a stutter but like the above poster  a SSD is the answer.

Chunking is way better than zoning,you never leave the game world.

I have played since release and have 4 level 55s and numerous other level atls,vanguard is not the same buggy mess it was 5+ years ago.

One bug that is still there is the rain bug if you have vista or windows 7,you can't see it only hear it.

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by Painlezz

People still play this game ?!?!

 

I remember years back at release it ran decently on medium settings for whatever rig I had at that time. 

Anyway, as others have stated, the engine is likely bad not your computer.  EQ2 has a horrible engine.  That game is many MANY years old and even on brand new top end gaming machines the engine can't handle maxed settings with much action on the screen.

You are talking rubbish and yes people still play Vanguard,i'm one.

Anyway,yes EQ2 has a dodgy engine but on a top range pc it runs just fine.I have two boxed all my MMO including EQ2 and Vanguard.I run two version of the clients on high settings and one on ultra with 50fsp on each client so your observation is wrong.

I'd like to know how you got EQ2 to ultra. I've been trying forever and it just won't work.

i7 2600k @ 4.2 GHz

12GB DDR3 

Dual HD 6950

Installed to SSD

Running at 1080p

On ultra I get 15-20 FPS in the Halas starting zone.

Originally posted by skeaser

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by Painlezz

People still play this game ?!?!

 

I remember years back at release it ran decently on medium settings for whatever rig I had at that time. 

Anyway, as others have stated, the engine is likely bad not your computer.  EQ2 has a horrible engine.  That game is many MANY years old and even on brand new top end gaming machines the engine can't handle maxed settings with much action on the screen.

You are talking rubbish and yes people still play Vanguard,i'm one.

Anyway,yes EQ2 has a dodgy engine but on a top range pc it runs just fine.I have two boxed all my MMO including EQ2 and Vanguard.I run two version of the clients on high settings and one on ultra with 50fsp on each client so your observation is wrong.

I'd like to know how you got EQ2 to ultra. I've been trying forever and it just won't work.

i7 2600k @ 4.2 GHz

12GB DDR3 

Dual HD 6950

Installed to SSD

Running at 1080p

On ultra I get 15-20 FPS in the Halas starting zone.

 

Remember i am running to clients on this one system in windows mode.

Windows 7 Ultimate

Intel Core i7 2700K 3.50GHz OC 4.60GHz 

Asus Maximus IV Extreme -Z Intel Z68

PowerColor ATI Radeon HD 6990 4096MB

OCZ ZX 850 Gold Rated PSU  

H²Flo Extreme Liquid Dual Fan CPU Cooler w/ x2 Sharkoon Silent Eagle Fans

Samsung SH-B123L/RSBP 12x BD-ROM / 16x DVD Writer Drive -

BlackHard Drive: 1TB HDD

Crucial RealSSD M4 256GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive

Kingston HyperX Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel

I have all my MMO on the SSD as well.

see, I can and do Play EQ2 on near Max settings. Only shadows and grass off everything else on max and I get No stuttering or any performance issues at all, yet VG any city/villag etc and its like freeze framing every 5 secs and chunking stop my character cold for 5+secs and sometimes I even end up facing the opposite direction on the other side. say I enter going  -> on oneside ..on the other side Im facing <- back the direction i came from which mean i hit the same dang chunk line again.. never happens in eq2 or any other MMO i play.

If they hope f2p to be any sucsess theyre gonna have to fix this crap engine as much as possible. Id love to play VG but i wont do it with these issues still lingering.

It runs great on the laptop I bought a few months ago. Granted, I still get the chunking, but it's typically under a second of hitch.

Originally posted by Sylvarii

Originally posted by Painlezz

People still play this game ?!?!

 

I remember years back at release it ran decently on medium settings for whatever rig I had at that time. 

Anyway, as others have stated, the engine is likely bad not your computer.  EQ2 has a horrible engine.  That game is many MANY years old and even on brand new top end gaming machines the engine can't handle maxed settings with much action on the screen.

You are talking rubbish and yes people still play Vanguard,i'm one.

Anyway,yes EQ2 has a dodgy engine but on a top range pc it runs just fine.I have two boxed all my MMO including EQ2 and Vanguard.I run two version of the clients on high settings and one on ultra with 50fsp on each client so your observation is wrong.

What kind of monster pc do you have? Or is it low res that are the saving grace :)

Originally posted by Kenze

see, I can and do Play EQ2 on near Max settings. Only shadows and grass off everything else on max and I get No stuttering or any performance issues at all, yet VG any city/villag etc and its like freeze framing every 5 secs and chunking stop my character cold for 5+secs and sometimes I even end up facing the opposite direction on the other side. say I enter going  -> on oneside ..on the other side Im facing <- back the direction i came from which mean i hit the same dang chunk line again.. never happens in eq2 or any other MMO i play.

If they hope f2p to be any sucsess theyre gonna have to fix this crap engine as much as possible. Id love to play VG but i wont do it with these issues still lingering.

It can be a problem that is hard drive related. 

Originally posted by Loke666

I actually have worse problems with EQ2.

But yeah, SOEs engines are unoptimized and not that greatly coded (even if that really is Sigils fault here).

I remember an article where a disgruntled developer of VG complained that they were not allowed coding tools but rather had to code each line by hand. I'm not technically savvy enough to know exactly what this means, but I extrapolate that:

1. VG is the last 'hand-crafted' mmo.

2. Optimizing code line by line must be time consuming and costly.

3. VG, for whatever reason, has simply not had the development staff to 'fine tune' VG's code.

4. When it is f2p, I anticipate the coding will begin being optimized, but only if the revenue stream and population of the game increases significantly.

But of course, I could be dead wrong.

I hope not, however. If they can streamline chunking, I think it is our best hope for seemless, non-instanced worlds in future mmos.

Anyone with a 580 or 680 that can tell me how this game runs?