Originally posted by Skuall

yeah for me archage is the most stunning visually , the water is OMG!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekaNIc8dd6U&feature=related

 

kraken included!

 

Yeah, because playing an MMO is all about staring at water.

:-)

Originally posted by sonoggi

this thread is a troll fest. GW2 will have the best gfx on the MMO market, by far. with EVE in second place. the rest is garbage imo. for example, TERA has decent gfx, but lacks in art. TSW went for a non-stylized realistic look, which simply doesnt work for the game. not sure what happened with TOR >.< they must have been smoking something strong.

Nah, TOR wanted the game to look like that animated SW series. Well, they might still have taken a shot of opium or something when they decided of course but they had some reasons behind it.

I personally think that in some aspects are AoC, TERA and FF XIV better than GW2 but GW2 have excellent art and a lot of amazing details so how OP can think that games like archeage looks better is a mystery to me.

Nothing against AA but graphics is not it's strong side.

Over 240 posts. Fifty posts per page on my end, five pages. Whyyyy? 

Good lord people, let the game release first or get your greasy fingers on it with a pre-purchase.

Not only are the graphics old the gameplay is very old for my taste as well.

yeah uhm you should really go check out the video on this site about the ui and see how at best performance the game's textures are amazingly detailed!

Originally posted by Loke666

I personally think that in some aspects are AoC, TERA and FF XIV better than GW2 but GW2 have excellent art and a lot of amazing details so how OP can think that games like archeage looks better is a mystery to me.

Nothing against AA but graphics is not it's strong side.

? Seriously? Hmm, I guess tastes really do differ, I got a totally different impression from all the videos I saw, that it'd rank in the top segment of best graphics in an MMORPG.

The trailer videos show a nice collection of sceneries, that you can also find in the gameplay videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok4_n84GjVI

The graphics :

Art style;       

- incredibale, most artistic MMO ever

- Not very realistic, they have choosen artistic styl;e above realisme

SCalabillity 

- The engine seems to handle huge groups of Players very well, with only limited FPS drops.

 - The low end graphics are still very acceptable

 - The new high end graphics used in last weekends press beta work very fluently, but still leave room for improvement (Cynical Brit)

Annimations

- Very fluent, the first game that comes close or even surpasses WoW's annimations fluency

Despite the few shortcommings, most of the press called the graphics the most immersive game graphics in MMO history.

And don't judge gamegraphics based on youtube video's as with their current way of decoding even on 1080p HD the background scenery tends to blur.

Originally posted by cutthecrap

? Seriously? Hmm, I guess tastes really do differ, I got a totally different impression from all the videos I saw, that it'd rank in the top segment of best graphics in an MMORPG.

The trailer videos show a nice collection of sceneries, that you can also find in the gameplay videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok4_n84GjVI

Yeah, you are right about the backgrounds, it do look fine. The game have the same issue as LOTRO, nice background, ugly avatars and mobs.

So I was a bit unfair.

Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

Despite the few shortcommings, most of the press called the graphics the most immersive game graphics in MMO history.

"most of the press" "most immersive graphics ever in the whole of MMO history"

While I agree that GW2's world looks to be very immersive, hyperbole statements like that usually trigger my sceptic sense, regardless whether it's about GW2 or another game or a car. Sure, I can see some press reporters say that they're impressed with the graphics, but the majority of the press reports saying exactly that, that GW2 has the best/most immersive graphics ever seen in the whole of MMO history? ... show me the proof, is what I'd usually say, get like 20-30 press reviews and show that in more than 15 of them the review literally stated that he/she found GW2's graphics the most immersive graphics ever seen in an MMO.

It just reeks too much like a hyperbole made to bolster up someone's point, unnecessary I think.

"Boy - I'll be those grapes are as sour as the Legacy System."

Another screen shot to inject some visuals in among the bluster. :)

(Click image to view full resolution).

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by cutthecrap

? Seriously? Hmm, I guess tastes really do differ, I got a totally different impression from all the videos I saw, that it'd rank in the top segment of best graphics in an MMORPG.

The trailer videos show a nice collection of sceneries, that you can also find in the gameplay videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok4_n84GjVI

Yeah, you are right about the backgrounds, it do look fine. The game have the same issue as LOTRO, nice background, ugly avatars and mobs.

So I was a bit unfair.

Yeah, that's the problem with a lot of graphics discussions, usually people have only 1 aspect of the graphics in mind when they talk about it, characters, environment or art style, often leading to misunderstandings when other people are talking about different graphics aspects of that same game. I thought the AA character models were ok, but TERA's I found very well done (although I dislike the art style choice), then again I found the TERA environment graphics less impressive than AA environment graphics. For TSW I think the environment graphics and monster model graphics are great looking, but the character models can do better.

As for GW2, when GW came out I still think it was graphically the most impressive MMO (CORPG) around, the best character models in an MMO in that time period. GW2, it looks like it'll have some other MMO's that will equal or even surpass it, either in character graphics or environment graphics. In art style though, imo they'll be unsurpassed.

Graphics ARE NOT Outdated.

ArenaNet have taken up a completely new style of graphics for Guild Wars 2 ~ They have produced a more paint brush, concept art style which is amazing :D

Originally posted by Puraimaru

Graphics ARE NOT Outdated.

 

ArenaNet have taken up a completely new style of graphics for Guild Wars 2 ~ They have produced a more paint brush, concept art style which is amazing :D

Funny you say that, I was just looking at one of the videos someone posted in the first link. I agree it's DIFFERENT definately and describing it as paint brush concept art style fits quite well. Yet watching it, things which look like cherry blossoms on the trees are a little reminder of GW1. So it's familiar looking yet not quite the same.

I play games for fun and enjoyment, graphics are comming second maybe even third on my list why i should play that game.

But with good RIG it seems GW2 looks fine to me buy a better PC OP dont stick with your 6 year old pc its outdated replace it:)

Im not against GW2 gamemechanics. GW1 was my first *mmorpg* that i ever bought. Im just talking here about the graphic-engine.

Sure, some places look really beautyful in GW2 but if you dont have he tools to display that art design how it should be, it looks really not that fascinating. 

If somone could give confirmation, that the beta footage uses the low quality pack-im happy to hear that.

Thats all im missing to hear, because if thats all they show, thats pretty low i think.

Im not the guy who will buy extra a hyper strong pc just to use all full details. i play probably on mid details, just for the future, i would like to know if theres more space.

All Sreenshots from A-net are maxed out.. But who will of you use all shadows in the game? most will disable them from beginning. If the graphics are this low, and you disable the shadows, we get graphics from 2007. Thats what piss me off.

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Originally posted by sk8chalif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XsOwim1uCp8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EthBosPEjLM&feature=plcp&context=C430ebc2VDvjVQa1PpcFP37OCqui5SzYBHi1_qHYfamw9p3E2Yxss%3D
 
Very stunning 
maybe not the best graphic game. but i think its 1 of the best Looking game of this years

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These video's proof game looks awesome and with great gameplay seems a WINNER!

Originally posted by makii

Im not against GW2 gamemechanics. GW1 was my first *mmorpg* that i ever bought. Im just talking here about the graphic-engine.

Sure, some places look really beautyful in GW2 but if you dont have he tools to display that art design how it should be, it looks really not that fascinating. 

If somone could give confirmation, that the beta footage uses the low quality pack-im happy to hear that.

Thats all im missing to hear, because if thats all they show, thats pretty low i think.

Im not the guy who will buy extra a hyper strong pc just to use all full details. i play probably on mid details, just for the future, i would like to know if theres more space.

All Sreenshots from A-net are maxed out.. But who will of you use all shadows in the game? most will disable them from beginning. If the graphics are this low, and you disable the shadows, we get graphics from 2007. Thats what piss me off.

If your computer is from 2007 then why are you pissed off that the computer can only handle 2007 graphics?

To get good graphics you need a modern system.

My god, 2007 is 5 years ago. o_O

And you can build a modern system for $700(ish) dollars nowadays.

Originally posted by bowzef1990

 

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Originally posted by Meowhead

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Originally posted by GWFandaddy



Dude, clearly you are a graphics guru of the highest order. [mod edit]  But for gods sake, if you expect anyone to actually read your posts, could you maybe use just a little PUNCTUATION?  thank you
EDIT:  30 exclamation points in a row, doesn't count

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It's pretty obvious that Arenanet made a tragic mistake by not hiring this guy.  He knows where the tick boxes are that you need to convert instantly and easily from low-end to high-end graphics and vice versa.
Just think all that money they wasted by hiring programmers and graphics people. :(

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I'm feeling lot of sarcasm here lol

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Originally posted by Dream_Chaser

Graphical fidelity doesn't matter to me, artistic direction does. I'm not saying this as a fan, even though I am, but... it's something I've felt for a long while. I mean, look at the Dreamcast and games like Skies of Arcadia and Ecco: Defender of the Future. If you play them today, they stil look absolutely incredible. Now, a game can have a lack of both, I've seen games and MMORPGs that do, but ArenaNet is an arthouse developer, they've got as many artists as Obsidian has writers (probably more). This game is going to be looking good for a long time to come.

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Given those choices - I pick artistic direction.

Another truth posted by Dream_Chaser.  Without competent art direction, there's nothing you can send to the graphics card that will make the game look and feel good. I bought & played a few weeks of EQII, and just couldn't handle how freakin' ugly everything was. Ugly colors, ugly people, ugly landscape. As he said, the higher fidelity of EQII didn't come close to matching the artistic style & direction of WoW at the time. I also suggest that the art style used by Blizzard was one of the reasons for the great success of the game.