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3/21/12 8:51:56 AM#141
Originally posted by Zeroxin 10% damage boost would be P2W, and I doubt they would implement that. |
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3/21/12 10:45:08 AM#142
It's same as like in Star Trek online. Players are able to sell dilithium for cryptic points what are usable in the Cryptic store. In STO it was stinky because the developers (or the members of the marketing) are manipulated the market because who the hell have thousands of bucks to do this?:)  |
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3/21/12 10:45:28 AM#143
“… it’s never OK for players who spend money to have an unfair advantage over players who spend time" Wow, I never thought these gaming companies would ever it it right. I think this game will finally be the winner the gaming community has been looking for. At least it will show all the rest in what direction they should all go.  |
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3/26/12 8:30:05 AM#144
This sounds like the EVE PLEX system? :O
Cast your vote: The importance of character customisation |
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3/26/12 11:31:20 AM#145
Anyone attempting to call this microtransaction system a pay-to-win system has some bats in the belfrey. It is just not a pay-to-win system in any shape or form. Anything available in the shop is also easily available via playing the game except for possibly some fluff items. |
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3/30/12 2:02:03 AM#146
Guys.. being rich in a game is not advantage. Even not in Guild Wars. Your money can't save you from my sharp blade n true skill:) GW is based on skills not on gears. |
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3/30/12 5:23:14 AM#147
If Anet holds true to this model as i suspect they will then it is as mike says "everyone wins" done in this way nobody is at a disadvantage and all can partake in cash shop items by buying gems with in game gold if they so choose.. I assume the best stuff will have to be purchased with karma which has to be earned...
Playing GW2.. |
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3/30/12 5:26:54 AM#148
Originally posted by Deleted User Cash shop is just another way for games companies to make more money. The option to use in-game currency at a lot of your own time is just camoflague, players cut corners... thats why we have gold farmers.
ArenaNet are trying to make as much money as possible at launch folks. Thats why EU players pay so much more for the game box than NA players. Cash Shop at launch is to generate money for the games company. It isn't progressive just cynical. There may be no sub, folks, but you betya that ArenaNet have other ways to generate money from the game at launch.
GW2 has been hyped to max level in the online world, and the reality isn't as good as the fantasy in many peoples heads. |
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3/30/12 5:30:32 AM#149
It's pure win to me because often end game the things i'd like to get like mounts or cosmetic clothing or whatnot end up costing too much and my characters have usually been poor because the market in the AH tends to be flooded with resource gatherers who undercut every post. So it's nice to see a game maker who sees this problem and fixes it. I can buy a single gem and get gold for what i want in game (outside of what is normally earned like dungeon sets or crafted weapons). it's a nice addition. |
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3/30/12 5:33:25 AM#150
If a games company was progressive they would say tie a quest to get the mount of your dreams. If it is tied to currency or rep then it is a time sink to make you play the game. If it can be got from a cash shop then it is simply a way to make the company more money. Gamers are very naive about this type of thing. |
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3/30/12 8:06:58 AM#151
This is a good system, unless gold sellers sell gold for less than the rate on the gem trade. |
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3/30/12 9:05:44 AM#152
That is one of the most ridiculous and low functioning responses i've ever heard in defense of microtransactions. Hey Dumb ^&& how bout you sell us a game that is fun for the price of the box or a refund if we're not having fun cause you should not have to double down on your video game when it was designed around you needing to make microtransactions >.< |
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3/30/12 9:59:21 AM#153
Originally posted by reanor No its not. If the game was just box price they would give you simple quest to complete for whatever item. Cash Shop option means that it is an out of game cash purchase way to avoid in game grind. So GW2 has alot of grinding in it as well at launch. |
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3/30/12 10:28:57 AM#154
Holy cow Anet doesn't really even try to hide the pay2win facts anymore. The defense has moved on to "Well all games are pay2win anyway because of the cheaters, so lets just make money off it ourselves!" I find this very sad. Anet has gotten really slimey over the last couple months WTF happened? Has there been an internal coup or something? This is really not like Anet at all to have fallen this low... GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind" |
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3/30/12 10:32:06 AM#155
Originally posted by gainesvilleg maybe gainesvilleg and I hear ya. Sad indeed and I'm NOT hating, trolling etc. Just another disappointed Anet fan. But hey I think I'm over GW2 so it's all good. I do wish it well and really do mean that. |
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3/30/12 10:38:54 AM#156
Originally posted by Melangel Just curious, but what is so bad about ANet making money rather than cascowgoldfarmers.com? people who woulld've payed for gold with real money via 3rd party now has some kind of incentive to atleast give ANet a chance other than 3rd party, i'm not trying to change your opinion or create a troll or flame post, i'm just trying to understand your side of the fence. The "Youtube Pro": Someone who watches video's on said subject, and obviously has a full understanding of what is being said about such subject. |
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3/30/12 10:44:22 AM#157
Originally posted by Melangel I was once on the bandwagon for GW2. Over the last several months I wavered on and off the bandwagon as new details emerged. There was always the cash shop hanging over this but people assured me Anet would never implement a F2P style cash shop, so I hadn't really concerned myself over it until their "manifesto" change a couple months ago. Then I got a little worried but people said "Hey it will be fine. Anet is in it for us the gamers" Now as the details emerge and Anet changes their philosophy AGAIN on the cash shop, it is WAY WORSE than even the biggest pessimists were saying. Even the "haters" a few months ago had no idea the cash shop would be this crass. Anet doesn't really even try to hide it anymore, which shows this is now a lost cause. They will never change their tune now. This may go down as maybe the biggest letdown in MMO history. A once promising game spoiled by greed and a "game built around the microtransaction concept." One "hater" summed it up best. They should call it "GW2: The online store" It's over...
GW2 "built from the ground up with microtransactions in mind" |
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3/30/12 10:44:27 AM#158
Originally posted by Wolvards Just not my sort of thing ie the can't beat em join em mentality. I always had planned on waiting for release to buy, ie no prepurchase. Perhaps I will change my mind who knows! But I think I would have felt better without the ingame selling of gems. Just my personal opinion. I've some other reasons also which I won't go into here. My other half will play, I'd never try to talk him out of it. He's super hyped about it and I'm sure he'll have a great time as well which is important :) |
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3/30/12 10:48:29 AM#159
Originally posted by gainesvilleg gainesvilleg you could have been typing out of my own brain just then :) As I said in my other post I had other reasons also but I think this was the tipping point in my decision.It threw me off the bandwagon probably for good. Still I hope it succeeds for those that don't mind and who still love the game regardless, my other half included. |
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3/30/12 10:51:32 AM#160
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