Originally posted by Draemos

Nope, their customer-base is too volatile and their executives and staff makes too many public mistakes that cause backlash.

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Originally posted by Soopaman

I would not buy stock in CCP. I dont like their business model. They only appeal to a small portion of the MMo market. 

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by Soopaman

I would not buy stock in CCP. I dont like their business model. They only appeal to a small portion of the MMo market. 

 

A portion that is both loyal and expanding.

Expanding, yea right. Ummm, no.

Another thing was World of Darkness would come with perma-death merchanics. I don't think that will appeal to the mass market (nowadays you need mass market appeal).  I am not sure if the mechanic will be an option or applied to all servers. Hopefully it will be an option (like optional perma-death servers). Again, World of Darkness has potential but right now the IP is too much still niche. I am sure CCP will be profitable but I don't think they will reach critical mass market potential. However the game will definitely appeal to fans of the developers and/or fans of the White Wolf franchise.

Originally posted by Liddokun

Another thing was World of Darkness would come with perma-death merchanics. I don't think that will appeal to the mass market (nowadays you need mass market appeal).  I am not sure if the mechanic will be an option or applied to all servers. Hopefully it will be an option (like optional perma-death servers). Again, World of Darkness has potential but right now the IP is too much still niche. I am sure CCP will be profitable but I don't think they will reach critical mass market potential. However they will appeal to fans of the developers and/or fans of the White Wolf franchise.

Only the Prince of each major city will have the ability to inflict perma death. This Prince is elected by the players so I doubt a griefer will ever have access to the ability. Also WoD will only have one server (like Eve) so no varying rulesets on multiple servers.

You're most probably right about this game not appealing to the masses though, at least I hope so. That being said, we're talking about vampires here and the vampire myth has always been extremely popular.

Originally posted by Charas

Originally posted by Liddokun

Another thing was World of Darkness would come with perma-death merchanics. I don't think that will appeal to the mass market (nowadays you need mass market appeal).  I am not sure if the mechanic will be an option or applied to all servers. Hopefully it will be an option (like optional perma-death servers). Again, World of Darkness has potential but right now the IP is too much still niche. I am sure CCP will be profitable but I don't think they will reach critical mass market potential. However they will appeal to fans of the developers and/or fans of the White Wolf franchise.

Only the Prince of each major city will have the ability to inflict perma death. This Prince is elected by the players so I doubt a griefer will ever have access to the ability. Also WoD will only have one server (like Eve) so no varying rulesets on multiple servers.

You're most probably right about this game not appealing to the masses though, at least I hope so. That being said, we're talking about vampires here and the vampire myth has always been extremely popular.

 

 Ccp has such a wonderful track record with players in lofty positions of authority acting in mature and measured ways though. There would certainly never, ever, be an issue for me to put my trust in getting perma-killed as long as the community currently witnessed in EvE is present to balance the players power and position.

 What I am trying to say ... is I completely trust my time, effort, and attachments to the kind of player(s) that CCP currently calls customers. The system isn't final though, lets hope they choose to implement this player lead system of perma death instead of something that is MUCH less sensible.

Only if I could purchase enough to effectively gain control of the company and make some much needed changes. Otherwise, no. I don't see CCP as a particularly wise or profitable investment as long as their current management is in place.

Originally posted by Liddokun

Another thing was World of Darkness would come with perma-death merchanics. I don't think that will appeal to the mass market (nowadays you need mass market appeal).  I am not sure if the mechanic will be an option or applied to all servers. Hopefully it will be an option (like optional perma-death servers). Again, World of Darkness has potential but right now the IP is too much still niche. I am sure CCP will be profitable but I don't think they will reach critical mass market potential. However the game will definitely appeal to fans of the developers and/or fans of the White Wolf franchise.

Mass market appeal is the last thing MMORPG's need right now.  We see lots of new MMORPG's come out with mass market appeal, and then fail.  All the while a game like EVE with a niche market continually makes money and grows consistently.  As the market gets more and more saturated the niche games will be much less risky than the mass market ones.  Niche games will find a strong fanbase while mass market games will get their share of tourists but not long term players since there will be so many similar mass market games out there.

lol @ all the armchair stockbrokers.

Well since CCP is the one company in Iceland that actually weathered the recession and economic climate in Iceland, yes I would get stock in CCP.

Originally posted by Dragonantis

Well since CCP is the one company in Iceland that actually weathered the recession and economic climate in Iceland, yes I would get stock in CCP.

Why should CCP suffer from the economic climate in Iceland? their costumer base isnt from iceland...

I would never risk money on a company that's run by incompetent people.

I would not except just before the launch of Darkness.  If they're still going at that point maybe.  They're spread kind of thin right now with DUST and all, and I dont trust them as a viable company.  But once it looks like they're going to do fine with DUST, EvE, and World Of Darkness (just as it is coming out) then yea I might. 

Right now though they're not a sure thing as far as I'd be concerned.

I almost bought stock in Funcom, knowing that it goes up when they start talking about a new game (AoC, TSW), but that it needs to fly the moment they actually start showing footage of it.

The same would have applied to CCP when they announced Dust and WoD, but before showing any proof of either.

Originally posted by kattehus

Yes, I would. Mostly because it, to me, looks like a solid investment. CCP's been growing steadily since they started out, so yeah.

With more funds, they could possibly push DUST and WOD out quicker, which leads to more revenue. So, again, yeah.

Besides that, though, I can't see what they'd need the money for. But I don't see CCP going bankrupt within at least the next 5-10 years.

Their so called steady growth has been mediocre at best.

Originally posted by Precusor

Originally posted by kattehus

Yes, I would. Mostly because it, to me, looks like a solid investment. CCP's been growing steadily since they started out, so yeah.

With more funds, they could possibly push DUST and WOD out quicker, which leads to more revenue. So, again, yeah.

Besides that, though, I can't see what they'd need the money for. But I don't see CCP going bankrupt within at least the next 5-10 years.

Their so called steady growth has been mediocre at best.

Compared to... ?

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Originally posted by Loktofeit

Compared to... ?

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2011 "growth" compared to any year before...