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  SBFord

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3/29/12 11:44:05 AM#1

In a new blog post on the Star Wars: The Old Republic site, Senior Game Designer William Wallace lays out precise details on the Legacy System that is set to hit SWTOR in April. The Legacy System allows characters to create a 'family tree' and access skills that are normally unavailable to certain classes.

The Legacy System begins with a player's first character and all characters built on any given server are considered part of that original legacy. Wallace goes on to discuss Class Unlocks, Companion Unlocks, Species Unlocks, Ship Unlocks and other unlocks that will become available as players progress through the system.

Read the full blog post on the Star Wars: The Old Republic site.

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  RefMinor

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Hipster

3/29/12 11:45:30 AM#2
FFRRRREEEEEEEEDDDDOMMMMM!!!!

"i don't waste my time building relationship in games" - nariusseldon
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"Never before has any other MMO done so extensive a job in breathing life into a game world." SBFord of mmorpg.com on SWTOR.

  Hrica

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"Yesterday is history, Tomorrow a mystery, and today is a gift"

3/29/12 11:46:41 AM#3

your avatar is cool,

Game is just..well not going there....

  thamighty213

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3/29/12 11:58:04 AM#4

glad I got out before this crap comes down the poop pipe.


  Alalala

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Posts: 182

3/29/12 12:44:15 PM#5
I've read the blog and it's details - in the end, it's really not much at all. Hype >> Reality

  McGamer

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"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Suffering" -Master Yoda

3/29/12 12:59:51 PM#6

Originally posted by thamighty213

glad I got out before this crap comes down the poop pipe.





 


Same here. This isn't Star Wars, it's a money-grab.


  elocke

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3/29/12 1:13:55 PM#7

Legacy system is cool but ends when you actually start to level any alt past your main.  Maybe if they made leveling alt's less boring, tedious and engaging then this would be awesome.  Right now, it's not.


  QSatu

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3/29/12 1:16:56 PM#8
Originally posted by elocke

Legacy system is cool but ends when you actually start to level any alt past your main.  Maybe if they made leveling alt's less boring, tedious and engaging then this would be awesome.  Right now, it's not.

I tought making alts was the biggest strength of SWTOR with special storylines for each class.

  Raserei

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3/29/12 1:33:22 PM#9

Worst MMO on the market


  elocke

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3/29/12 1:38:58 PM#10
Originally posted by QSatu
Originally posted by elocke

Legacy system is cool but ends when you actually start to level any alt past your main.  Maybe if they made leveling alt's less boring, tedious and engaging then this would be awesome.  Right now, it's not.

I tought making alts was the biggest strength of SWTOR with special storylines for each class.

So did I, until I actually did it, or tried to.  Then I found all those voiced over side quests and space battles weren't very fun the second time around.  If I could have just done the class quests ONLY on all alts past my level 50, I wouldn't have minded.  Like giving my alts a veteran bonus or something so as not to plod through the useless filler.  I could have really enjoyed my other classes then, but nope, gotta trudge through it all with no variation on which planet at which level.  For those who say well you can PVP or space mission or FP for variation...yeah, tried that.  It's even slower and more tedious a task then just flat out questing.

  Thorkune

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Dyslexics of the world...UNTIE!

3/29/12 1:43:18 PM#11
Originally posted by Raserei

Worst MMO on the market

It must be the only one you have tried then. There are far worse than SWTOR and even the trolls here will agree with that...I think.

  Xiaoki

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Joined: 3/07/04
Posts: 1995

3/29/12 1:55:55 PM#12

So, its taking them all this time to implement cosmetic changes?


Good to see BioWare is continuously improving the important areas of TOR.


Raids, PvP and bugs?


Oh, hell no, no one cares about those. We want special emotes.

  Golbat

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Posts: 4

3/29/12 2:06:30 PM#13

Exactly, bigsmiff. . . I have a really hard time understanding why so many people are such hating, whiney bitches about TOR. I really suspect that most people who have such an axe to grind with TOR are really just played out of MMO's in general and because they can't get it up for latest MMO on the market they just try and deliberately destroy as many peoples' peace of mind and happiness as possible on their way out. . . which is entirely BETA DOUCHEBAGGERY. I have played MMOs since Everquest beta (not bragging, just sayin') and, God damn,  of course MMOs are getting tired no matter what the IP or how the graphics look or which fantasy settng. . . BUT a game like TOR still only comes around once every 3-5 years if you are lucky so if you have really convinced yourself that TOR is the shittiest game on the market. . . well, just GTFO. Go cradle your delusion someplace where someone may give a fuck about your crying about it.





 

  jtcgs

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3/29/12 2:15:15 PM#14
Originally posted by Golbat

Exactly, bigsmiff. . . I have a really hard time understanding why so many people are such hating, whiney bitches about TOR. I really suspect that most people who have such an axe to grind with TOR are really just played out of MMO's in general and because they can't get it up for latest MMO on the market they just try and deliberately destroy as many peoples' peace of mind and happiness as possible on their way out. . . 
 

1. its true, anyone that doesnt like something you like must fit into that neat and safe box you created in your mind.

2. people saying something against what you like are trying to destroy your peace of mind and happiness?

3. ROFLMAO!

4. Did that ruin your peace of mind or your happiness? If not, I will post again...

 

The legacy system is a great idea implimented in one of the worst ways imaginable for a RPG let alone an MMORPG.

Bad is bad, period. People that have to either like something 100% of the time or hate it 100% of the time are whats wrong with the genre, its because of people like that, that the genre of MMOs have become the watered down cookie cutter bland games they have become.

 

P.S.

5. if you cant handle opposing opinions you should be on a public forum so your precious mind isnt damaged by the knowledge that people, can be different.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  jtcgs

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Joined: 9/28/04
Posts: 1476

3/29/12 2:26:59 PM#15

To elaborate on WHY ITS BAD.


This is an MMORPG with multiple RACES. RACES...


The legacy system is created to make you use it to unlock powers for other classes you are playing.


But in a ROLEPLAYING game with RACES, 1 character I play my not be of the same RACE. Oh but thats ok, they are not related then, they are...allies, even though...its a FAMILY tree. Derp. Better yet, you are going to unlock...oh, force choke...for your non-force using bountry hunter! WTF...derp. but its ok, you can only do it once every ** minutes.


oh, so my non-force using character can only use the force once every ** minutes, well, then that deal breaker is just plain OK I guess...derp.


Hey but you can also unlock a mailbox for your ship...and it will only cost you 1000000000000000 credits!


well, thank God for that!


But wait, you can also unlock classes and races for classes you want to play...really? How many months after release and already having my alts leveled is that going to be made available?!?


Did the makers of this game ever even HEAR of an MMO or RPG before making this game?


Legacy is a great idea implimented in the worst possible way I could imagine...much like the idea that I have to group to get social points to unlock clothing to roleplay in around a town. im surprised they are not awarding us PvP gear for standing in town doing emotes...


“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  mboudway

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Joined: 9/15/09
Posts: 1

3/29/12 2:46:42 PM#16

100% Agree Golbat, seriously starting to absolutely hate this forum because of so many people going OUT OF THERE WAY to find every and all post concerning SWTOR and hate like its going out of style, trying to make anyone who actually likes the game feel like a fool.  Its true that we all have preferences, but just blanket "THIS GAME SUCKZ BECAUSE I SAY SO" posts are getting so incredibly tiring especially because I like SWTOR and think it has potential.  Is it perfect, no way, but I think it could get better eventually, just like LOTRO, just like WoW in its hayday, just like so many other MMo's that I have played and enjoyed at one time or another.


  elocke

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Posts: 3820

3/29/12 2:54:40 PM#17
Originally posted by mboudway

100% Agree Golbat, seriously starting to absolutely hate this forum because of so many people going OUT OF THERE WAY to find every and all post concerning SWTOR and hate like its going out of style, trying to make anyone who actually likes the game feel like a fool.  Its true that we all have preferences, but just blanket "THIS GAME SUCKZ BECAUSE I SAY SO" posts are getting so incredibly tiring especially because I like SWTOR and think it has potential.  Is it perfect, no way, but I think it could get better eventually, just like LOTRO, just like WoW in its hayday, just like so many other MMo's that I have played and enjoyed at one time or another.

In order for that potential to be realized, the negative posts need to be considered long before the positive ones.  Don't get all upset because of negative opinions about the game.  Work with them not against them.  If it's just a post that says I hate this game and everyone who likes it, than ok.  But most of the posts I've read actually give factual evidence for any frustration with the game.  

I want the game to blow me away, but if they continue to act like nothing is wrong, that just won't happen.  We've already seen games do that and just shut down or become 1 server wonders.  Like WAR, Champions Online, and so forth.  Lots of potential in those games but they never once addressed their real issues and now we watch them fade away as more games release that do it better.

  theblurch

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3/29/12 2:56:38 PM#18
Originally posted by elocke
Originally posted by mboudway

100% Agree Golbat, seriously starting to absolutely hate this forum because of so many people going OUT OF THERE WAY to find every and all post concerning SWTOR and hate like its going out of style, trying to make anyone who actually likes the game feel like a fool.  Its true that we all have preferences, but just blanket "THIS GAME SUCKZ BECAUSE I SAY SO" posts are getting so incredibly tiring especially because I like SWTOR and think it has potential.  Is it perfect, no way, but I think it could get better eventually, just like LOTRO, just like WoW in its hayday, just like so many other MMo's that I have played and enjoyed at one time or another.

In order for that potential to be realized, the negative posts need to be considered long before the positive ones.  Don't get all upset because of negative opinions about the game.  Work with them not against them.  If it's just a post that says I hate this game and everyone who likes it, than ok.  But most of the posts I've read actually give factual evidence for any frustration with the game.  

I want the game to blow me away, but if they continue to act like nothing is wrong, that just won't happen.  We've already seen games do that and just shut down or become 1 server wonders.  Like WAR, Champions Online, and so forth.  Lots of potential in those games but they never once addressed their real issues and now we watch them fade away as more games release that do it better.

 

1 server wonders, lol.  I like that.

  jtcgs

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Posts: 1476

3/29/12 3:16:05 PM#19
Originally posted by mboudway

100% Agree Golbat, seriously starting to absolutely hate this forum because of so many people going OUT OF THERE WAY to find every and all post concerning SWTOR and hate like its going out of style, trying to make anyone who actually likes the game feel like a fool.  Its true that we all have preferences, but just blanket "THIS GAME SUCKZ BECAUSE I SAY SO" posts are getting so incredibly tiring especially because I like SWTOR and think it has potential.  Is it perfect, no way, but I think it could get better eventually, just like LOTRO, just like WoW in its hayday, just like so many other MMo's that I have played and enjoyed at one time or another.

And those people making those posts hate this forum because of so many people going OUT OF THIER WAY to find every and all posts concerning SWOTR and love on it like its a woman, trying to make anyone who actually finds a flaw in the game feel like a fool. Its true that we all have preferences, but just blanket "THIS GAME ROCKZ BECAUSE I SAY SO" posts are getting so incredibly tiring especially because I hate SWTOR and still think it has potential.

See what I did there? bet you will still do what you are doing anyway.

“I hope we shall crush...in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomes Jefferson

  Mors.Magne

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3/29/12 3:22:57 PM#20

I'm waiting for DUST to come out.


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