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General Discussion  » In WvW, siege weapons cost gold. Gems buyers have a WvW advantage

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  Betakodo

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3/28/12 4:48:35 PM#1

Prices - http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Blueprints-ventor.png

What's the next excuse? WvW isn't PvP so it doesn't have to be fair? Siege weapons can be used against players or the all mighty fort door. Hell, every gem buyer can buy the most expensive, and the only mobile siege weapon, the siege golem (A gundam!).

For those that don't already know, you can buy gems in the cash shop, then trade them for gold with other players.

  Cinge

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3/28/12 4:52:17 PM#2

Welcome to B2p, that so many people say is the "best way".

Even for people that don't pvp, it will effect them since bonuses from winning WvW can be pve oriented :P

  Wolvards

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3/28/12 4:52:37 PM#3

just curious, once you buy the blueprint is that it? done, now all you need is the materials? or everytime you want 1 treb you have to buy a blueprint? then, how much materials are needed to make that blueprint, i get your point, but i'm just curious as to how the siege system will work.

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  romanator0

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3/28/12 4:52:56 PM#4

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Supply

Doesn't matter how much gold you have. You can't do shit without supply. Do your research next time.

  Cinge

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3/28/12 4:54:08 PM#5
Originally posted by wolvards

just curious, once you buy the blueprint is that it? done, now all you need is the materials? or everytime you want 1 treb you have to buy a blueprint? then, how much materials are needed to make that blueprint, i get your point, but i'm just curious as to how the siege system will work.

You buy the blueprint, it uses the "Supply" of your side to "Build" and its a one time use.

  romanator0

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3/28/12 4:54:28 PM#6
Originally posted by wolvards

just curious, once you buy the blueprint is that it? done, now all you need is the materials? or everytime you want 1 treb you have to buy a blueprint? then, how much materials are needed to make that blueprint, i get your point, but i'm just curious as to how the siege system will work.

Blueprints are purchased with gold or looted from killed players. To use blueprints you need supply which is gained from captured areas such as logging camps and mines.

  RizelStar

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3/28/12 4:56:11 PM#7

I just told him...you know what fuck this lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c

Try to argue this please.

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  Thorbrand

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3/28/12 4:56:14 PM#8

How else you going to buy the blueprints? I just don't understand this post!

  Kuppa

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3/28/12 4:56:40 PM#9
Originally posted by romanator0

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Supply

Doesn't matter how much gold you have. You can't do shit without supply. Do your research next time.

ouch!


  Cinge

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3/28/12 4:56:56 PM#10
Originally posted by romanator0

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Supply

Doesn't matter how much gold you have. You can't do shit without supply. Do your research next time.

Not really roadblock, your side is going to want to hold/keep supply objectivies anyhow(to upgrade keeps, rebuild  doors etc).

 

His point still stands, someone who buys gems with $  and trades to gold can buy more Seige weapons, thus a advantage without any "in-game" progression or play.

 

Its funny watching all the people with GW2 sigs race to white knight any thread/post that may even be a "Slight" negative towards the game.

  WellzyC

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3/28/12 4:57:04 PM#11

Blue prints are not that expensive..

 

The hard part is getting the supply you need, Because it requries more than you can carry. Anymore lame attempts to try and complain about gems?

 

Next complaint please.

The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.

The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, Linear Story, Cut-Scenes...


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  Wolvards

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3/28/12 4:58:53 PM#12
Originally posted by Cinge
Originally posted by wolvards

just curious, once you buy the blueprint is that it? done, now all you need is the materials? or everytime you want 1 treb you have to buy a blueprint? then, how much materials are needed to make that blueprint, i get your point, but i'm just curious as to how the siege system will work.

You buy the blueprint, it uses the "Supply" of your side to "Build" and its a one time use.

So aside from supply, it's one blueprint per siege weapon?

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  Kuppa

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3/28/12 4:59:48 PM#13
Originally posted by Cinge
Originally posted by romanator0

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Supply

Doesn't matter how much gold you have. You can't do shit without supply. Do your research next time.

Not really roadblock, your side is going to want to hold/keep supply objectivies anyhow(to upgrade keeps, rebuild  doors etc).

 

His point still stands, someone who buys gems with $  and trades to gold can buy more Seige weapons.

 

Its funny watching all the people with GW2 sigs race to white knight any thread/post that may even be a "Slight" negative towards the game.

Blueprints you mean....which are useless by themselves 


  Volkon

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3/28/12 4:59:48 PM#14
Originally posted by romanator0
Originally posted by wolvards

just curious, once you buy the blueprint is that it? done, now all you need is the materials? or everytime you want 1 treb you have to buy a blueprint? then, how much materials are needed to make that blueprint, i get your point, but i'm just curious as to how the siege system will work.

Blueprints are purchased with gold or looted from killed players. To use blueprints you need supply which is gained from captured areas such as logging camps and mines.

I also read they drop off of Dolyaks as well.

 

Regardless, there's a massively post out about the beta, and it seems that it's quite easy to get enough coins in game to make the purchases anyhow. Considering the number of siege weapons shown in the videos and that the beta likely had no one buying gold for gems simply due at least to lack of supply... I think these fears are unfounded and merely an attempt to draw a negative reaction.

Oderint, dum metuant.

  EvilGeek

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3/28/12 4:59:59 PM#15

Let me ask you a question - Are the blueprints prohibitively expensive? If you can answer yes to that question and provide a valid source, you may have a point. Until then your working with fiction.

  L0C0Man

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3/28/12 5:00:09 PM#16

They also said that you can't carry more than 10 supply on you, and that any siege weapon (the golem is supposed to be the more expensive) will cost more supply than what a single person can carry.

As for the price of the blueprints, no idea how expensive they are. This is a screenshot on the wiki:

However no idea how easy/hard it is to get that kind of money in the game

 

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  AIMonster

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3/28/12 5:00:49 PM#17
Originally posted by WellzyC

Blue prints are not that expensive..

 

The hard part is getting the supply you need, Because it requries more than you can carry. Anymore lame attempts to try and complain about gems?

 

Next complaint please.

I heard a comment in one of the press beta videos (can't remember which) that they were quite expensive (the siege golem in particular).  At least at low level.  Not sure if gold gain increases when you have a higher level.

If you don't get a lot of gold in WvWvW this could be a legitimate advantage for someone who just wants to PvP.  Let's not forget your armor can still break in WvWvW and you'll need to repair gear frequently which is also another gold hit.

  RizelStar

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3/28/12 5:01:07 PM#18
Originally posted by Cinge
Originally posted by romanator0

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Supply

Doesn't matter how much gold you have. You can't do shit without supply. Do your research next time.

Not really roadblock, your side is going to want to hold/keep supply objectivies anyhow(to upgrade keeps, rebuild  doors etc).

 

HIs point still stands, someone who buys gems with $  and trades to gold can buy more Seige weapons.

That do what?

What the fuck are you going to do with a lot of siege blue stamps and if you invest all your effort to have the most antimobile siege weapons with slow ass recharge and weak ass keeps because they ain't put no supply in them .

You also need players to use these, you also need supply, you also need to think, you also need to have a strong keep.

You can't buy IQ,Teamwork,Upgrades,rl skill, ethics, and you can't pay for a pass from an server getting it's ass whooped.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c

Try to argue this please.

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  Naqaj

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3/28/12 5:01:14 PM#19
Originally posted by wolvards

just curious, once you buy the blueprint is that it? done, now all you need is the materials? or everytime you want 1 treb you have to buy a blueprint? then, how much materials are needed to make that blueprint, i get your point, but i'm just curious as to how the siege system will work.

As others have said, you actually need supplies to build siege equipment, the bueprint is a one-time use to initiate the construction. Don't tell the whiners though, they might be very dissappointed. 

Also don't tell them you don't need to bring any gold into WvW since everything you do there actually earns you gold. They might run out of things to point their fingers at, and then what would we argue about ...?

  Banisco

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3/28/12 5:02:23 PM#20

If we have learned something today is that in order to win WvW all you need to do is buy a thousand of blueprintas and make building places all over the world, also we know that one guy can make a diference in a 3 way battle with thousands of players.

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