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  BarCrow

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Joined: 2/25/07
Posts: 2145

3/27/12 5:13:45 PM#181

What a douchebag. Plenty of balls behind the screen. Wonder how much of a pussy he is in a face-to-face scenerio. Why doesnt he just give his name (and address since he's so Boss and all) out in real life..so people can track him down and beat the bullshit right out of him.

  kcannon

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Joined: 11/01/07
Posts: 28

3/27/12 5:17:50 PM#182
Originally posted by BarCrow

What a douchebag. Plenty of balls behind the screen. Wonder how much of a pussy he is in a face-to-face scenerio. Why doesnt he just give his name (and address since he's so Boss and all) out in real life..so people can track him down and beat the bullshit right out of him.

His real name is out and all over the news sites. Go and read the news before coming and calling bullshit

  WilyWeasel

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Joined: 3/27/12
Posts: 9

3/27/12 5:19:40 PM#183
Originally posted by BarCrow

What a douchebag. Plenty of balls behind the screen. Wonder how much of a pussy he is in a face-to-face scenerio. Why doesnt he just give his name (and address since he's so Boss and all) out in real life..so people can track him down and beat the bullshit right out of him.

Cause like most ego driven people, he's a coward :)

 

But as long as people listen to his BS, he has power.. It sucks, but thats life.

  BarCrow

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3/27/12 6:21:38 PM#184
Originally posted by kcannon
Originally posted by BarCrow

What a douchebag. Plenty of balls behind the screen. Wonder how much of a pussy he is in a face-to-face scenerio. Why doesnt he just give his name (and address since he's so Boss and all) out in real life..so people can track him down and beat the bullshit right out of him.

His real name is out and all over the news sites. Go and read the news before coming and calling bullshit

Great!...What's his address? Did he give out his address too? .  He didn't make other people wait and research before giving out a suicidal man's in-game name and urging all to push him into oblivion.

I have nothing against EVE or Goonswarm . I'm not calling for them to be banned. Just think  this guy is a dickhead and would wonder why anyone would want him as a representative.

  Ginaz

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Posts: 1686

3/27/12 6:45:24 PM#185

From what I know, its not uncommon for the victim of the gank to claim they are suicidal in order to guilt the other party into giving them back their stuff.  This is more than likely what happened in this case.  The Goons have probably seen this often enough from their victims to know to either ignore it or mock them.  The gank vicitm then got mocked at a drunken fan fest.  I fail to see how this is as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

I'm fairly certain this is the Goons reaction to all your tears and anger:

Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?

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  Kuro1n

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Joined: 1/03/07
Posts: 774

3/27/12 7:02:41 PM#186

I'm no goon but I do support Mittani due to everything hes doing for the game, however I think he was wrong this one time. Yet the victim in question didn't actually care much about it so why are people making such a big deal about it? Oh yes right... because everyone loves the drama.

People are saying Mittani and goons are disgusting, I think this thread stinks ten times worse right now. People saying he should get beaten up irl and such. Hypocrits.

  User Deleted
3/27/12 7:36:42 PM#187
Originally posted by Ginaz

From what I know, its not uncommon for the victim of the gank to claim they are suicidal in order to guilt the other party into giving them back their stuff.  This is more than likely what happened in this case.  The Goons have probably seen this often enough from their victims to know to either ignore it or mock them.  The gank vicitm then got mocked at a drunken fan fest.  I fail to see how this is as big a deal as people are making it out to be.

I'm fairly certain this is the Goons reaction to all your tears and anger:

The big deal is when he went public

Had this stayed in game, he could have flown away with that guy's loot and responded with

"do I look like your therepist?" and left it there. 

But no, He went public in one of th ebiggest ways possible. 

And to write this off as a drunekn mistake is BULL SH!7!

He was prepared for that message.

  TommiJyurro

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Joined: 1/10/12
Posts: 51

It's mostly s#!% in a can, unless it's s#!% on a wire.Why are you still playing with s#!%?

3/27/12 9:14:54 PM#188
Originally posted by Puremallace

I guess you can file this article under the wtf column

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/03/26/ccp-investigates-player-panel-that-encouraged-cyber-bullying/

 

EVE Online's annual Fanfest is an opportunity for players from across the world to share stories of the year's big events, political actions, and epic battles won and lost. Each year, player speakers from the game's biggest and most influential alliances are invited to take part in the Alliance Panel at Fanfest, where they can talk about their organisation and what it's done over the preceding year. Massively got a hold of a copy of this year's Alliance Panel, and unfortunately it was marked by something more distressing than the usual political ego-buffing and mass consumption of alcohol.


GoonSwarm alliance speaker and second-time CSM chairman Alexander 'The Mittani' Gianturco gave a talk on some of the year's most memorable alliance activities, from shutting down Ice Mining operations across several regions to scamming people with fake supercapital ship trades. As part of the talk, Alex aired a private correspondence in which a victim revealed that he'd been severely depressed following a divorce and expressed suicidal thoughts. "We're sure that he's not dead," Alex flippantly remarked during the talk, before adding that "he might have committed suicide."

Read on for the full details of what Alex said to encourage the event's thousands of viewers to engage in cyber-bullying, as well as the response from CCP.

While a flippant remark that the victim may have killed himself could possibly be seen as drunken banter intended to embellish the impact of the story, later in the talk Alex actually gave the name of the pilot and encouraged players to harass him in order to make him commit suicide. "Incidentally, if you want to make the guy kill himself, his name is [REMOVED]," Alex said, adding that "he has his own corp. Find him." The entire talk was watched by a packed room of Fanfest attendees and streamed live to thousands of players at home. Alex told players to "deal with it" when complaints surfaced on the EVE forum.

With people still heading home from Fanfest, CCP responded to tell us they are investigating the issue and will get back to us with the results as soon as they can. Public Relations specialist Ned Coker told Eurogamer that CCP is "undertaking a full internal review of this panel as well as the process used for vetting the panel's materials," adding that "Even though this panel was billed as unfiltered by CCP, we expect public presentations to be courteous and professional towards others." Ned also confirmed that "CCP will be very vigilant in monitoring any behaviour directed towards the individual named in the presentation."

Has anyone started demanding this guy be removed from his position, from teh CSM, and replaced in a recall vote?

Anything new here? Hmmm... Nope. o/

  Hazelle

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Joined: 1/20/11
Posts: 772

3/27/12 9:33:13 PM#189

Nothing will happen over this except CCP will promise to monitor future events which will boil down to CCP giving the speakers a pep talk before hand.

That is all.

  cosy

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Joined: 9/15/04
Posts: 3306

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3/27/12 9:36:55 PM#190
more publicity look how many new ppl and new posts on this forum edit: did anyone check if that was true ? i mean there are chances to be a epic troll (i hope it is a troll)

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  Typhado

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Joined: 11/07/09
Posts: 177

I don't think you know what I thought you think I did.

3/28/12 12:13:07 AM#191

I gotta say the irony is kinda funny here when you stop and think about it.

 

A guy who promotes himself as being an asshat and promotes thes use of propaganda as a form of warfare is now suffering from a propaganda attack about him acting like an asshat.

 

 

Into the breach meatbags

  MustaphaMond

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Joined: 4/12/09
Posts: 344

"History is bunk."

3/28/12 12:16:09 AM#192
Originally posted by Typhado

I gotta say the irony is kinda funny here when you stop and think about it.

A guy who promotes himself as being an asshat and promotes thes use of propaganda as a form of warfare is now suffering from a propaganda attack about him acting like an asshat.

 

What some would call "irony," others would call "poetic justice"....

  User Deleted
3/28/12 12:23:26 AM#193
Originally posted by cosy
more publicity look how many new ppl and new posts on this forum edit: did anyone check if that was true ? i mean there are chances to be a epic troll (i hope it is a troll)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvo08_uYjHI     @1:12  it's the guys ingame name..  Everyone on eve-o knows it at this point. Goons type it out every other post.

Some claim CCP has been editing videos that they control.  I have not really looked. But that's the comment causing backlash.  Making fun of the Eve-mail is a few minutes earlier.

 

Before his apology Mittens comments were "deal with it!."  His apology isn't sincere, more like CCP putting preasure on him.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=997031#post997031

It is safe to say that it is not a troll.

CSM have said that they are discussing what should be done.

CCP have said that they are doing a investigation.  

Forums still on fire. Though a lot of it's goons on damage control.

 

Edit just to add:  It's no surprise that Mittens did what he did, or for that matter any goon.  My opinion is that what  pushed it over the edge was that it's all on video at a CCP sponsered event vs. forums posts consisting of hearsay.  

  AutemOx

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3/28/12 12:25:33 AM#194

Did a room full of people listening to him say this stuff do nothing?  Not even a boo?

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  mf16

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Joined: 3/29/11
Posts: 66

3/28/12 12:44:34 AM#195
Originally posted by Kuro1n
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by Kuro1n
Originally posted by Pk4U

I just wonder what the end result will be.

This doesn't seem like an issue the would require a long investigation, considering it was all on tape, and happened a couple days ago.

I don't think I'll be trying any of CCPs future games unless there is a pretty strong action taken on their part.

I used to play Eve and yeah, its hardcore. But this is way, way over the line.

If it is even a real thing and not just Mittani and the goons trolling (as usual). lol

 

Even if it is all made up it reflects very badly on CCP, if someone else from the game dies as a result of "making harassment acceptable" then it still falls on CCP and Mittani

That is really broken logic, CCP is investigating it. What else would you want them to do? They are not there in order to keep depressed gamers alive even if they are making a try. If something they are working against harassement very well by investingating. How is Mittani even remotely connected to another case that could potentially happen, if this turns out to be a big case of goonswarm trolling?

 

 

I agree BUT if i was the company i would hold him responsible for making me waste my time alone on the investigation either way he'd be getting punished for making my company look bad and my game as a whole look bad

  Gdemami

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Posts: 6822

3/28/12 2:48:26 AM#196

CSM6 was the worst CSM ever and I just hope this "event" will finally ban Mittani from taking place in any CSM for life, something that should have been done long long ago...

  kcannon

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Joined: 11/01/07
Posts: 28

3/28/12 3:31:25 AM#197
Originally posted by Gdemami

CSM6 was the worst CSM ever and I just hope this "event" will finally ban Mittani from taking place in any CSM for life, something that should have been done long long ago...

 

Right the first CSM to actually push anything meaningful to CCP was the worst. No the previous ones where bugger all was accomplished was the worst last years was the best CSM we have ever had.

 

Originally posted by cosy
more publicity look how many new ppl and new posts on this forum edit: did anyone check if that was true ? i mean there are chances to be a epic troll (i hope it is a troll)


This has been confirmed a troll, the guy who sent the mail does not care aboiut what The Mittani said and has stated that he has never had suicidal thoughts, he was just trying (and failed) to get sympathy out of the person who ganked his mining ships

  RefMinor

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3/28/12 3:36:08 AM#198
Man, he used an official CCP platform to call for the in game harassment of someone with mental health issues with the express purpose of driving him to commit suicide, this was publically broadcast as part of the CCP coverage of their official event. I am not really sure how it can A. Be justifiable. B. not be against their catch all ToS or C. In CCP's interests (especially with their new partners such as Sony's publicly stated policies on cyber bullying) to keep this clusterfuck rolling down the hill gaining bad publicity.
  Precusor

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3/28/12 3:38:57 AM#199
Originally posted by RefMinor
Man, he used an official CCP platform to call for the in game harassment of someone with mental health issues with the express purpose of driving him to commit suicide, this was publically broadcast as part of the CCP coverage of their official event. I am not really sure how it can A. Be justifiable. B. not be against their catch all ToS or C. In CCP's interests (especially with their new partners such as Sony's publicly stated policies on cyber bullying) to keep this clusterfuck rolling down the hill gaining bad publicity.

CCP isn't going to do jack shit and they are relishing the free press EVE is getting.

  RefMinor

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3/28/12 3:56:42 AM#200
Originally posted by Precusor
Originally posted by RefMinor
Man, he used an official CCP platform to call for the in game harassment of someone with mental health issues with the express purpose of driving him to commit suicide, this was publically broadcast as part of the CCP coverage of their official event. I am not really sure how it can A. Be justifiable. B. not be against their catch all ToS or C. In CCP's interests (especially with their new partners such as Sony's publicly stated policies on cyber bullying) to keep this clusterfuck rolling down the hill gaining bad publicity.

CCP isn't going to do jack shit and they are relishing the free press EVE is getting.

 

I wonder how the Sony Corporation feel about it.
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