Originally posted by GMan3

Originally posted by eddieg50

very simple if you like wow like game with the ability to employ many different skills ala guild wars than rift is for you, if you like Story, cut scenes, voice overs, companions, great sound, small groups and plot than swtor is for you

    Personally I would agree with this person.  My own advice would be SWTOR, since the gear grind isn't really felt until endgame and not much even then, unlike a skill grind which is normally felt throughout RIFT.  I know Rift does not actually have a skill grind, it just feels like it since three souls with all the trees and crap made it feel like i needed computer generated flow charts to actually make a worthwhile character, just like a skills grind game does.  Add to that alt builds and it gets even worse.  Then there is the fact that RIFT has about 25% to 30% of the content that SWTOR has. For me that is a huge factor.   In the end though, it really is up to you and what you like in a game. 

lol its not hard to build characters in RIFT.

Its on a par with COH or something in that regard, its hardly EVE or something.

Originally posted by SlyGamer79

I know this cool MMORPG...its call REAL LIFE its crazy you can do almost anything and feel stuff...its not my cup of tea however i prefer to stay in my man-cave and play my games :-P

Originally posted by ShakyMo

Originally posted by GMan3

Originally posted by eddieg50

very simple if you like wow like game with the ability to employ many different skills ala guild wars than rift is for you, if you like Story, cut scenes, voice overs, companions, great sound, small groups and plot than swtor is for you

    Personally I would agree with this person.  My own advice would be SWTOR, since the gear grind isn't really felt until endgame and not much even then, unlike a skill grind which is normally felt throughout RIFT.  I know Rift does not actually have a skill grind, it just feels like it since three souls with all the trees and crap made it feel like i needed computer generated flow charts to actually make a worthwhile character, just like a skills grind game does.  Add to that alt builds and it gets even worse.  Then there is the fact that RIFT has about 25% to 30% of the content that SWTOR has. For me that is a huge factor.   In the end though, it really is up to you and what you like in a game. 

lol its not hard to build characters in RIFT.

Its on a par with COH or something in that regard, its hardly EVE or something.

The gear grind is felt at level 5. What you talking about? You must be playing an OP class 

RIFT.

I just came back to Rift after 2 of the most dissapointed months of my gamer life in Swtor....

but again...it´s all about tastes

Yoou can try both in trials...but honestly...dont expect Swtor to get better at higher levels...

Originally posted by RefMinor

Originally posted by SlyGamer79

I know this cool MMORPG...its call REAL LIFE its crazy you can do almost anything and feel stuff...its not my cup of tea however i prefer to stay in my man-cave and play my games :-P

 

I prefer second life, the graphics are better

Plus it's easier to get laid in Second Life.  

If you were bored enough from WoW to quite right after you re-subbed then why do you want to play games that are just like WoW? Just play some F2P games that are different and maybe even some single player RPGs.

Originally posted by Gamer1o1

Which of the two would better to play atm till GW2 comes out? I am pretty bored and just want something fun in the mean time.

SWTOR has bettery story oriented questing and lore than Rift by far. Other than that Rift beats out SWTOR in just about every other category.

Out of the two Rift is definitely the better value overall both in initial price and long term playability. SWTOR is a good short term game. Just not anything many are going to want to play for any long length of time.

Having said that they're both decent games pending on what you're looking for. Personally, I think Rift is the better of the two by quite a large margin.

Originally posted by Gamer1o1

Which of the two would better to play atm till GW2 comes out? I am pretty bored and just want something fun in the mean time.

SWTOR was a great single player game....at 50, just delete your character and start over...

Rift was a combination of all of the things people liked in themepark MMORPG's.  The graphics were great if you had a machine that could run it, the gameplay was fast and dynamic.   But if you're sick of the same old formula, then it isn't for you.  

I am still searching for my replacement for Pre-NGE Star Wars Galaxies..

I was thinking about The Repopulation, but I just learned the devs have decided to take a big dump on crafters and make it so there is no ability to create unique items.  Apparantly my search goes on.  

I really wish I could say Swtor. I WANT the game to be worth it, but, bottom line: It just isn't.

When it comes to themepark MMO'ing, RIFT has, for quite awhile, had the best (and quickest) release of content for almost every player to enjoy. There is an amazing array of stuff to do, especially considering the game's still only about a year old. 

In my opinion, SwToR did -everything- wrong. They had a long, long line of successful MMO's to research on and they made mistakes that a company wouldn't even have made 8 years ago. It's shameful that a company like Bioware can't release a game that is up-to-date with content and game features.

RIFT would be my vote. I think it's a better overall game in almost every way.

Better dungeons.

Better class system.

More intereting progression.

More variety in things you can choose to do.

Really the list goes on and on. It just seemed like a better overall game. You can even play up to 20 and decide then.

Originally posted by Gamer1o1

Which of the two would better to play atm till GW2 comes out? I am pretty bored and just want something fun in the mean time.

SWToR has a better 1-50 game so you are better off there.

Rift has the better endgame, but that doesn't matter so much to you I wouldnt think.  

If you have never played it, EQ2 is the best option for themepark type play for a couple months

I tried EQ2 and felt that the gameplay was very clunky compared to newer games. 

I think the only way I'd say swtor is if GW2 were coming out with the next 4 to 6 weeks. Considering that GW2 may not be out until late 2012 I'd definitely say RIFT. It doesn't take terribly long to get to level 50 and there is just so much to do in terms of end game content. If you find yourself an established guild to play with you should have endless activity to keep you busy until whenever GW2 is finally launched.

Originally posted by Gamer1o1

Which of the two would better to play atm till GW2 comes out? I am pretty bored and just want something fun in the mean time.

Straight up -- SWTOR will not last you until GW2 comes out. It will keep you entertained for a bit, but not that long :)

Rift is better in every possible way. It's not even close. Far and away the best MMO out right now.

Originally posted by TheDubanat0r

SWTOR should keep u satisfied as long as you approuch it like a single player RPG with some social aspacts. 

It makes me so glad that people are now openly admiting that SWTOR is a single player game with a 15$ sub fee

For -Me-

Swtor > Rift

In the Themepark Universe

besides that, you gotta remember the follow

Swtor = Sci-fi universe, with a lot of single player goodness, and intresting side activities: Ships and Companians.

Rift = your common fantasy RPG on rails, its like WoW but grab WoW, reverse time back to Vinilla, and then Shake it up, flip it upside down, Apply  *Content* Patches every 2 months and BOOM you got Rift

So in that equation, Rift > WoW

BUT! Soon to be, Swtor patch 1.2 = big shit.

Sooooooooo i end my comments here, the pick is YOURS.

Originally posted by RefMinor
Aion, it's F2P, in fact try all the free trials and F2P games you can and get a feel for new concepts, then you can become as cool and jaded as me when a single MMO doesn't encompass all the different good bits

Why doesn't a development team take all of the best aspects of all MMO's and make a killer game?

1. Crafting and open world from SWG

2. Player housing from EQ2

3. Combat, music, and graphics from AoC

4. PvP from DaoC

5. Story writing from SWTOR (not the style, just writing)

6. Fluid animations from WoW

7. Diligent content developers from Rift

Originally posted by bigsmiff

Originally posted by RefMinor
Aion, it's F2P, in fact try all the free trials and F2P games you can and get a feel for new concepts, then you can become as cool and jaded as me when a single MMO doesn't encompass all the different good bits

Why doesn't a development team take all of the best aspects of all MMO's and make a killer game?

 

1. Crafting and open world from SWG

2. Player housing from EQ2

3. Combat from AoC

4. PvP from DaoC

5. Story writing from SWTOR (not the style, just writing)

6. Fluid animations from WoW

7. Diligent content developers from Rift

and graphics from who? graphics is not the number 1 thing to look at but i wouldnt play a game with all the things you listed if it has EQ1 graphics. And much less paying for it