Trending Games | War Thunder | Elder Scrolls Online | World of Warcraft | Guild Wars 2

  Network:  FPSguru RTSguru
Login:  Password:   Remember?  
Show Quick Gamelist Jump to Random Game
Members:2,905,666 Users Online:0
Games:757  Posts:6,295,882
Recent forum postsRSS
Active threads
Cloud view
List all forums
General Forums
Developers Corner General Discussion
Popular Game Forums
Click a status to find game forum
Game Forums
Click a letter to find game forum
A-C
2029 Online 2112: Revolution 2Moons 4Story 8BitMMO 9 Dragons A Mystical Land A Tale in the Desert III A3 ACE Online ARGO Online Aberoth Absolute Force Online Absolute Terror Achaea Adellion Aerrevan Aetolia, the Midnight Age Age of Armor Age of Conan Age of Empires Online Age of Mourning Age of Wulin Age of Wushu Aida Arenas Aika Aion Albion Online Alganon All Points Bulletin (APB) Allods Online Altis Gates Amazing World Anarchy Online Ancients of Fasaria Andromeda 5 Angels Online Angry Birds Epic Anime Ninja Anime Pirates Anime Trumps Anmynor Anno Online Applo Arcane Hearts Arcane Legends ArchLord ArcheAge Archeblade Archlord X Ascend: Hand of Kul Asda 2 Asda Story Ashen Empires Asheron's Call Asheron's Call 2 Astera Online Astonia III Astro Empires Astro Lords: Oort CLoud Asura Force Atlantica Online Atriarch Aura Kingdom Aurora Blade Auto Assault Avatar Star Battle Dawn Battle Dawn Galaxies Battle for Graxia Battle of 3 Kingdoms Battle of the Immortals Battlecruiser Online Battlestar Galactica Online Battlestar Reloaded Beyond Protocol Black Aftermath Black Desert Black Gold Black Prophecy Black Prophecy Tactics: Nexus Conflict Blacklight Retribution Blade & Soul Blade Hunter Blade Wars Blazing Throne Bless Blitz 1941 Blood and Jade Bloodlines Champions Boot Hill Heroes Borderlands 2 Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Bound by Flame Bounty Bay Online Brain Storm Bravada Bravely Default Bravely Second Brawl Busters. Brick-Force Bright Shadow Bullet Run Business Tycoon Online CTRacer Cabal Online Caesary Call of Camelot Call of Gods Call of Thrones Camelot Unchained Canaan Online Cardmon Hero Cartoon Universe CasinoRPG Cast & Conquer Castle Empire Castlot Celtic Heroes Champions Online Champions of Regnum Chaos Online Child of Light Chrono Tales Citadel of Sorcery CitiesXL Citizen Zero City of Decay City of Heroes City of Steam City of Transformers City of Villains Civilization Online Clan Lord Clash of Clans Cloud Nine Club Penguin Colony of War Command & Conquer: Tiberium Alliances Company of Heroes Online Conquer Online Conquer Online 3 Continent of the Ninth (C9) Core Blaze Core Exiles Corum Online Craft of Gods Crimecraft Crimelife 2 Cronous Crota II Crusaders of Solaris Cultures Online Cyber Monster 2 Cyberpunk 2077 Céiron Wars
D-F
D&D Online DC Universe DK Online DOTA DOTA 2 DUST 514 DV8: Exile Dalethaan Dance Groove Online Dark Age of Camelot Dark Ages Dark Legends Dark Orbit Dark Relic: Prelude Dark Solstice Dark Souls 2 Dark and Light DarkEden Online DarkSpace Darkblood Online Darkest Dungeon Darkfall Darkfall: Unholy Wars Darkwind: War on Wheels Das Tal Dawn of Fantasy Dawntide DayZ Dead Earth Dead Frontier Dead Island Dead Island 2 Dead Island: Riptide Deco Online Deep Down Deepworld Defiance Deicide Online Dekaron Demons at the Horizon Desert Operations Destiny Diablo 3 Diamonin Digimon Battle Dino Storm Disciple Divergence Divina Divine Souls Divinity: Original Sin Dofus Dominus Online Dragon Age: Inquisition Dragon Ball Online Dragon Born Online Dragon Crusade Dragon Empires Dragon Eternity Dragon Fin Soup Dragon Nest Dragon Oath Dragon Pals Dragon Raja Dragon's Call Dragon's Call II Dragon's Prophet DragonSky DragonSoul Dragona Dragonica Dragons and Titans Drakengard 3 Dream of Mirror Online Dreamland Online Dreamlords: The Reawakening Drift City Duels Dungeon Blitz Dungeon Fighter Online Dungeon Overlord Dungeon Party Dungeon Rampage Dungeon Runners Dungeon of the Endless Dynastica Dynasty Warriors Online Dynasty of the Magi EIN (Epicus Incognitus) EVE Online Earth Eternal Earth and Beyond Earthrise Eclipse War Ecol Tactics Online Eden Eternal Edge of Space Einherjar - The Viking's Blood Elder Scrolls Online Eldevin Elf Online Elite: Dangerous Embers of Caerus Emil Chronicle Online Empire Empire & State Empire Craft Empire Universe 3 EmpireQuest Empires of Galldon End of Nations Endless Ages Endless Blue Moon Online Endless Online Entropia Universe EpicDuel Erebus: Travia Reborn Eredan Eternal Blade Eternal Lands Eternal Saga Ether Fields Ether Saga Online Eudemons Online EuroGangster EverEmber Online EverQuest Next EverQuest Online Adventures Evernight Everquest Everquest II Evony Exarch Exorace F.E.A.R. Online Face of Mankind Fairyland Online Fall of Rome Fallen Earth Fallen Sword Fallout 4 Fallout Online Family Guy Online Fantage Fantasy Earth Zero Fantasy Realm Online Fantasy Tales Online Fantasy Worlds: Rhynn Faunasphere Faxion Online Fearless Fantasy Ferentus Ferion Fiesta Online Final Fantasy Type-0 HD Final Fantasy XI Final Fantasy XIV Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Firefall Fists of Fu Florensia Flyff Football Manager Live Football Superstars Force of Arms Forge Forsaken Uprising Forsaken World Fortnite Fortuna Forum for Discussion of Everlight Freaky Creatures Free Realms Freesky Online Freeworld Fung Wan Online Furcadia Fury Fusion Fall
G-L
GalaXseeds Galactic Command Online Game of Thrones: Seven Kingdoms Gameglobe Gate To Heavens Gates of Andaron Gatheryn Gauntlet Gekkeiju Online Ghost Online Ghost Recon Online Gladiatus Glitch Global Agenda Global Soccer Gloria Victis Glory of Gods GoGoRacer Goal Line Blitz Gods and Heroes GodsWar Online Golemizer Golf Star GoonZu Online Graal Kingdoms Granado Espada Online Grand Chase Grand Fantasia Grepolis Grimlands Guild Wars Guild Wars 2 Guild Wars Factions Guild Wars Nightfall H1Z1 Habbo Hotel Hailan Rising HaloSphere2 Haven & Hearth Hawken Heart Forth Alicia Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft Helbreath Hellgate Hellgate: London Hello Kitty Online Hero Online Hero Zero Hero's Journey Hero: 108 Online HeroSmash Heroes & Generals Heroes & Legends: Conquerors of Kolhar Heroes in the Sky Heroes of Atlan Heroes of Bestia Heroes of Gaia Heroes of Might and Magic Online Heroes of Thessalonica Heroes of Three Kingdoms Heroes of the Storm Hex Holic Online Hostile Space Hunter Blade Huxley Icewind Dale: Enhanced Edition Illutia Illyriad Immortals USA Imperator Imperian Inferno Legend Infestation: Survivor Stories Infinite Crisis Infinity Infinity Iris Online Iron Grip: Marauders Irth Worlds Island Forge Islands of War Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted Jade Dynasty Jagged Alliance Online Juggernaut Jumpgate Jumpgate Evolution KAL Online Kakele Online Kaos War Karos Online Kartuga Kicks Online King of Kings 3 Kingdom Heroes Kingdom Under Fire II Kingdom of Drakkar Kingory Kings Era Kings and Legends Kings of the Realm KingsRoad Kitsu Saga Kiwarriors Knight Age Knight Online Knights of Dream City Kothuria Kung Foo! Kunlun Online Kyn L.A.W. LEGO Universe La Tale Land of Chaos Online Landmark Lands of Hope: Redemption LastChaos League of Angels League of Legends - Clash of Fates Legend of Edda: Vengeance Legend of Golden Plume Legend of Grimrock 2 Legend of Katha Legend of Mir 2 Legend of Mir 3 Legendary Champions Lego Minifigures Online Lichdom: Battlemage Life is Feudal Light of Nova Lime Odyssey Line of Defense Lineage Lineage Eternal: Twilight Resistance Lineage II Linkrealms Loong Online Lord of the Rings Online Lords Online Lords of the Fallen Lost Saga Lucent Heart Lunia Lusternia: Age of Ascension Luvinia World
M-Q
MU Online Mabinogi Maestia: Rise of Keledus MagiKnights Magic Barrage Magic World Online Manga Fighter MapleStory Martial Heroes Marvel Heroes Marvel Super Hero Squad Online Marvel: Avengers Alliance Mass Effect 4 MechWarrior Online Megaten Meridian 59 : Evolution Merlin MetalMercs Metaplace Metin 2 MicroVolts Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor Midkemia Online Might & Magic Heroes: Kingdoms Might & Magic X: Legacy MilMo Minecraft Mini Fighter Minions of Mirth Ministry of War Monato Esprit Monkey King Online Monkey Quest Monster & Me Monster Madness Online MonsterMMORPG Moonlight Online: Tales of Eternal Blood Moonrise Mordavia Mortal Online Mourning My Lands Myst Online: URU Live Myth Angels Online Myth War Myth War 2 Mythborne Mytheon Mythic Saga Mythos N.E.O Online NIDA Online Nadirim Naviage: The Power of Capital Navy Field Need for Speed World Nemexia Neo's Land NeoSteam Neocron Nether Neverwinter Nexus: The Kingdom Of The Winds NinjaTrick NosTale Novus Aeterno Oberin Odin Quest Odyssey RPG Ogre Island Omerta 3 Online Boxing Manager Onverse Oort Online Order & Chaos Online Order of Magic Original Blood Origins Return Origins of Malu Orion's Belt Otherland Forums OverSoul Overkings Overwatch Oz Online Oz World Pandora Saga Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Panzar Parabellum Parallel Kingdom Parfait Station Path of Exile Pathfinder Online Perfect World Perpetuum Online Persona V Phantasy Star Online 2 Phantasy Star Universe Phoenix Dynasty Online Phylon Pi Story Picaroon Pillars of Eternity Pirate Galaxy Pirate Storm Pirate101 PirateKing Online Pirates of the Burning Sea Pirates of the Caribbean Online Pixie Hollow Planeshift Planet Arkadia Planet Calypso PlanetSide 2 Planetside Planets³ Playboy Manager Pocket Legends Pockie Ninja Pockie Pirates Pockie Saints Pokémon X and Y PoxNora Prime World Prime: Battle for Dominus Priston Tale Priston Tale II Prius Online Prodigy Project Blackout Project Gorgon Project Powder Project Titan Forums Project Wiki Project Zomboid Puzzle Pirates Quest for Infamy Quickhit Football
R-S
R2 Online RAN Online RF Online ROSE Online Rage of 3 Kingdoms Ragnarok Online Ragnarok Online II RaiderZ Rail Nation Rakion Rappelz RappelzSEA Ravenmarch Realm Fighter Realm of Sierra Realm of the Mad God Realm of the Titans Realms Online Rebel Galaxy Reclamation Red Stone Red War: Edem's Curse Regnum Online Remnant Knights Renaissance Repulse Requiem: Memento Mori Rift RiotZone Rise Rise of Dragonian Era Rise of Empire Rise of the Tycoon Risen 3: Titan Lords Rising of King Risk Your Life Rivality Rockfree Rohan: Blood Feud Role Play Worlds Roll n Rock Roma Victor Romadoria Rosh Online Roto X Rubies of Eventide Ruin Online Rumble Fighter Runes of Magic Runescape Rust Rusty Hearts Ryzom S4 League SAGA SD Gundam Capsule Fighter Online SMITE SUN Sacred 3 Sagramore Salem SaySayGirls Scarlet Blade Scions of Fate Seal Online: Evolution Second Chance Heroes Second Life Secret of the Solstice Seed Serenia Fantasy Seven Seas Saga Seven Souls Online Sevencore Shadow Realms Shadow of Legend Shadowbane Shadowgate Shadowrun Online Shaiya Shards Online Shattered Galaxy Sho Online Shot Online Shroud of the Avatar SideQuest Siege on Stars Sigonyth: Desert Eternity Silkroad Online Skyblade Skyforge SmashMuck Champions Smoo Online Soldier Front Soul Master Soul Order Online Soul of Guardian South Park: The Stick of Truth Space Heroes Universe Sparta: War of Empires Spellcasters Sphere Spiral Knights Spirit Tales Splash Fighters Squad Wars Star Citizen Star Conflict Star Sonata 2 Star Stable Star Supremacy Star Trek Online Star Trek: Infinite Space Star Wars Galaxies Star Wars: Clone Wars Adventures Star Wars: The Old Republic StarQuest Online Starbound Stargate Worlds Starlight Story Starpires State of Decay SteelWar Online Stone Age 2 Stormfall: Age of War Stormthrone Storybricks Stronghold Kingdoms Styx: Master of Shadows Sudden Attack Supremacy 1914 Supreme Destiny Sword Girls Sword of Destiny: Rise of Aions SwordX Swords of Heavens Swordsman
T-Z
TERA TS Online TUG Tabula Rasa Tactica Online Tales Runner Tales of Fantasy Tales of Pirates Tales of Pirates II Tales of Solaris Talisman Online Tamer Saga Tank Ace Tantra Online Tatsumaki: Land at War Terra Militaris TerraWorld Online Terraria Thang Online The 4th Coming The Agency The Aurora World The Banner Saga The Black Watchmen The Chronicle The Chronicles of Spellborn The Crew The Division The Epic Might The Hammers End The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing 2 The Legend of Ares The Lost Titans The Matrix Online The Mighty Quest for Epic Loot The Missing Ink The Mummy Online The Myth of Soma The Pride of Taern The Realm Online The Repopulation The Secret World The Sims Online The Strategems The West The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt Theralon There Therian Saga Thrones of Chaos Tibia Tibia Micro Edition Tiger Knight Titan Siege Titans of Time Toontown Online Top Speed Topia Online Torchlight Torment: Tides of Numenera Total Domination Transformers Universe Transistor Transverse Traveller AR Travia Online Travian Triad Wars Trials of Ascension Tribal Hero Tribal Wars Tribes Universe Trickster Online Trove Troy Online True Fantasy Live Online Turf Battles Twelve Sky Twelve Sky 2 Twilight War Tynon U.B. Funkeys UFO Online URDEAD Online Ultima Forever: Quest for the Avatar Ultima Online Ultima X: Odyssey Ultimate Naruto Ultimate Soccer Boss Uncharted Waters Online Undercover 2: Merc Wars Underlight Unification Wars Universe Online Utopia Valkyrie Sky Vampire Lord Online Vanguard: Saga of Heroes Vanquish Space Vector City Racers Vendetta Online Victory - Age of Racing Vindictus Virtonomics Vis Gladius Visions of Zosimos VoidExpanse Voyage Century Online W.E.L.L. Online WAR (Warhammer Online) WAR2 Glory WYD Global Wakfu War Thunder War of 2012 War of Angels War of Legends War of Mercenaries War of Thrones War of the Immortals WarFlow Waren Story Warflare Wargame1942 Warhammer 40,000: Eternal Crusade Warhammer 40K: Dark Millennium Online Warhammer Online: Wrath of Heroes Warkeepers Warrior Epic Wartune Wasteland 2 WebLords Wild West Online WildStar Wind of Luck WindSlayer 2 Wings of Destiny Wish Wizard101 Wizardry Online Wizards and Champions Wonder King Wonderland Online World Golf Tour World of Battles World of Darkness World of Heroes World of Kung Fu World of Pirates World of Speed World of Tanks World of Tanks Generals World of Warcraft World of Warplanes World of Warriors World of Warships World of the Living Dead WorldAlpha Wurm Online Xenoblade Chronicles: X Xenocell Xiah Xsyon Xulu YS Online Yitien ZU Online Zentia Zero Online Zero Online: The Andromeda Crisis Zodiac Online Zombies Ate My Pizza eRepublik

MMORPG.com Discussion Forums

Guild Wars 2

Guild Wars 2 

General Discussion  » GW2 wack-a-mole combat debunked here:

2 Pages « 1 2 Search
34 posts found
  Reskaillev

Advanced Member

Joined: 11/29/06
Posts: 160

It's vaporware!

3/27/12 3:42:38 PM#21

well It might be true that in some places you need some skill for GW2, but in most videos (in the low level) it's mostly whack-a-mole combat type...hope it gets better as you level up

On second thought: While it might be true that you can distinguish yourself from the rest by being better at the game than the rest, you don't need to be better to complete the game. Catch my drift? This means its perfectly possible to complete the game in the so called "noobmode" which is a bad thing in my opinion..:(

 

@Darth Pony

The new signature is awesome!!! XD You do know we do love you Darth Pony?

We might not agree on some points but I hereby apologize on behalf off my fellow gw2 nerds

"Isn't a raid plundering villages in WoW or something like that?" - Robert Desable

  DarkPony

Steed of Tardcore

Joined: 8/29/08
Posts: 5637

Confident, cocky, lazy, dead.

3/27/12 3:42:42 PM#22
Originally posted by Master10K
Originally posted by DarkPony

The whole elaborate weapon swapping + changing skills looks good. Not too sure about having only access to a limited amount of circumstantial abilities at a time though. Would have to play it to see myself.

LMAO... Sorry but your new sig is priceless.

As a member of this esteemed GW2 community, I approve.

Thanks, Master. Glad you can appreciate it :)

Playing around with animation in photoshop is great fun. ^_^

*coughs* On topic ...  Stuff like the thief's stealing abilities and talents are pretty original too rite?

edit: and thanks Reskaillev

 

  Dream_Chaser

Novice Member

Joined: 4/14/11
Posts: 1054

3/27/12 3:43:44 PM#23

That said, I agree with Unlight. The man's reasonable, one of the few. He makes a lot of good points. I like him.

If the combat is too difficult in the early days, that's going to actually put a lot of people off. So I hope they balance this well. I'm not sure what they're doing in regards to this, really. I agree with what he's saying, because "L2P NEWB" is not a good business model. It's a great way to drive your business into the ground.

So this really is tricky. I do believe that the content is really hard. I've watched TB find it really hard. And I'm okay with that. Is the game going to suffer for it? Because people are more used to more tame MMO endeavours? Don't know. But it's a very interesting point.

  MorbidCurio

Novice Member

Joined: 3/24/11
Posts: 129

3/27/12 3:53:13 PM#24
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by Master10K
Originally posted by DarkPony

The whole elaborate weapon swapping + changing skills looks good. Not too sure about having only access to a limited amount of circumstantial abilities at a time though. Would have to play it to see myself.

LMAO... Sorry but your new sig is priceless.

As a member of this esteemed GW2 community, I approve.

Thanks, Master. Glad you can appreciate it :)

Playing around with animation in photoshop is great fun. ^_^

*coughs* On topic ...  Stuff like the thief's stealing abilities and talents are pretty original too rite?

edit: and thanks Reskaillev

 

All of the GW 2 gushing I see must seriously be from people who have never played any other video game outside of GW 1.

Everything I see and read about in the game just has me shrugging, leaning into my chin and going, "Oh? So tell me how your idea is entirely unique and original."

I mean, I've seen some pretty intense spin-doctoring and vague language used to describe game systems before, but ANet is taking the cake with GW 2. The part that REALLY makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills is that so many people are just eating it up. Call me jaded, but every single video I've seen doesn't show me anything that fantastic.

I've seen some cool animations, but that's kind of it. Nothing else I've seen is original or new or even done better.

  Homitu

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/01/09
Posts: 2045

3/27/12 4:00:00 PM#25
Originally posted by Lobotomist

We all read the concern of some beta testers that combat is boring, repetitive - and that it only consists of pressing any ability that came out of cooldown.

Shame they gave beta acess to such lame players that obviously have no first idea of how to play the game properly.

Here is collection of (legit - non nda breaking) vids of very skilled warrior player , giving complete combat breakdown.

Once and for all debunking the vile rumours spread by noob beta testers

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/guild-wars-2-bam-hunter-beta-edition-day1/

 

 

I think those videos are more of a demonstration of what happens when an unskilled player takes on some of the more challenging content by himself or in a smaller group and slightly underleveled.  

He got hit by virtually everything the cave troll tossed at him in the 3rd video.  (To see an actual skilled player take on the same trolls at an even lower level, check out this video that's been tossed around a bunch in the past month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4&list=PL3F7E82F16AF977E3&index=5&feature=plpp_video)  

Against Oakheart, I'm not sure he ever noticed the healing pods, as he ignored them every time even though the mechanics of the fight are listed right below the bosses health bar.  I wonder if he thought it was odd that the boss kept healing to full for the first 5 minutes.

  Ambros123

Novice Member

Joined: 12/04/11
Posts: 891

3/27/12 4:06:08 PM#26
Originally posted by MorbidCurio
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by Master10K
Originally posted by DarkPony

The whole elaborate weapon swapping + changing skills looks good. Not too sure about having only access to a limited amount of circumstantial abilities at a time though. Would have to play it to see myself.

LMAO... Sorry but your new sig is priceless.

As a member of this esteemed GW2 community, I approve.

Thanks, Master. Glad you can appreciate it :)

Playing around with animation in photoshop is great fun. ^_^

*coughs* On topic ...  Stuff like the thief's stealing abilities and talents are pretty original too rite?

edit: and thanks Reskaillev

 

All of the GW 2 gushing I see must seriously be from people who have never played any other video game outside of GW 1.

Everything I see and read about in the game just has me shrugging, leaning into my chin and going, "Oh? So tell me how your idea is entirely unique and original."

I mean, I've seen some pretty intense spin-doctoring and vague language used to describe game systems before, but ANet is taking the cake with GW 2. The part that REALLY makes me feel like I'm taking crazy pills is that so many people are just eating it up. Call me jaded, but every single video I've seen doesn't show me anything that fantastic.

I've seen some cool animations, but that's kind of it. Nothing else I've seen is original or new or even done better.

Really?  Did I miss the memo on your personal survey of peoples on what games they play?  MMORPG had a poll of those who are very adament about the game about their gaming experiance?  ANet sent out a questionire and tallied it up?

Talking about stuff based on assumptions is ignorance.  The crowd that talk highly about GW2 if anything have the highest MMO experiances as a lot of issues that have been in the industry are what is addressed.

  jmcdermottuk

Hard Core Member

Joined: 6/10/06
Posts: 917

3/27/12 4:12:12 PM#27

One thing makes me laugh about this. How is waiting for attacks to come off cooldown ANY different from, say, WoW. Rotations are common for all classes in WoW if people want to maximise their DPS. Everyone has abilities on CD's.

 

The levels of hypocrisy on these forums is staggering at times.

  sonicbrew

Novice Member

Joined: 7/25/03
Posts: 518

3/27/12 4:18:28 PM#28
Originally posted by Ambros123
Talking about stuff based on assumptions is ignorance.  The crowd that talk highly about GW2 if anything have the highest MMO experiances as a lot of issues that have been in the industry are what is addressed.

What are you talking about? How much MMO experience do you have? I been playing MMO's since their inception back to Archmage and Meridian 59. Just because people talk this game up has nothing to do with their MMO experience in the slightest. As far as I am concerned your all abunch of lemmings and I cannot wait to hear the same people here like every other hyped release come back complaining in droves shortly after release.

All the people I grew up gaming with, the MMO experienced people have pretty much left this useless genre for good...

“Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box.” ~ Italian proverb

  Rednecksith

Apprentice Member

Joined: 6/12/09
Posts: 1272

Bite my fiery metal ass!

3/27/12 4:21:07 PM#29
Originally posted by jmcdermottuk

One thing makes me laugh about this. How is waiting for attacks to come off cooldown ANY different from, say, WoW. Rotations are common for all classes in WoW if people want to maximise their DPS. Everyone has abilities on CD's.

 

The levels of hypocrisy on these forums is staggering at times.

Yeah, but you have to circle strafe and occasionally hit the dodge/roll button while waiting for your skills to come off CD, instead of standing in one place...

Circle strafing equals skill, you know!

  Master10K

Apprentice Member

Joined: 10/18/10
Posts: 3086

3/27/12 4:21:40 PM#30
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by Master10K
Originally posted by DarkPony

The whole elaborate weapon swapping + changing skills looks good. Not too sure about having only access to a limited amount of circumstantial abilities at a time though. Would have to play it to see myself.

LMAO... Sorry but your new sig is priceless.

As a member of this esteemed GW2 community, I approve.

Thanks, Master. Glad you can appreciate it :)

Playing around with animation in photoshop is great fun. ^_^

*coughs* On topic ...  Stuff like the thief's stealing abilities and talents are pretty original too rite?

edit: and thanks Reskaillev

Wish I could be arsed to delve deep into Photoshop but I just find it boring compared to video editing with After Effects.

But back on topic... I really don't care about whether something is innovative or original; hell my first MMORPG was LOTRO, when it went F2P, so there's still a lot that I haven't experienced regarding this genre. All that really matters is what is fun on a personal level and what one could get out a game. Though I wonder if any other MMORPG allows players to rain down artillery, as far as GW2. That could be considered original.

  Ambros123

Novice Member

Joined: 12/04/11
Posts: 891

3/27/12 4:22:06 PM#31
Originally posted by Homitu
Originally posted by Lobotomist

We all read the concern of some beta testers that combat is boring, repetitive - and that it only consists of pressing any ability that came out of cooldown.

Shame they gave beta acess to such lame players that obviously have no first idea of how to play the game properly.

Here is collection of (legit - non nda breaking) vids of very skilled warrior player , giving complete combat breakdown.

Once and for all debunking the vile rumours spread by noob beta testers

http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/guild-wars-2-bam-hunter-beta-edition-day1/

 

 

I think those videos are more of a demonstration of what happens when an unskilled player takes on some of the more challenging content by himself or in a smaller group and slightly underleveled.  

He got hit by virtually everything the cave troll tossed at him in the 3rd video.  (To see an actual skilled player take on the same trolls at an even lower level, check out this video that's been tossed around a bunch in the past month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR0-S9SQCW4&list=PL3F7E82F16AF977E3&index=5&feature=plpp_video)  

Against Oakheart, I'm not sure he ever noticed the healing pods, as he ignored them every time even though the mechanics of the fight are listed right below the bosses health bar.  I wonder if he thought it was odd that the boss kept healing to full for the first 5 minutes.

What hilarious is the whole Skilled Warrior PVE title in the vid.

  Tuchaka

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/14/10
Posts: 466

3/27/12 4:37:34 PM#32

ya OP your right i just wouldn't get too worked up debunking the perceptions of certain dumb gamers its a full time job, but thanks for the cool video's they did show some things i had not seen before so thank you

  Adalwulff

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/18/10
Posts: 1191

"I am not the light, or the darkness, but the twilight in between"

3/27/12 4:38:20 PM#33
Originally posted by cyress8

 


Originally posted by hikaru77


Originally posted by Lobotomist
We all read the concern of some beta testers that combat is boring, repetitive - and that it only consists of pressing any ability that came out of cooldown.
Shame they gave beta acess to such lame players that obviously have no first idea of how to play the game properly.
Here is collection of (legit - non nda breaking) vids of very skilled warrior player , giving complete combat breakdown.
Once and for all debunking the vile rumours spread by noob beta testers
http://www.guildwarsinsider.com/guild-wars-2-bam-hunter-beta-edition-day1/
 
 



I saw the vids, it looks boring and repetitive tbh. Is all about 1 1 1 1 1 1  2 3 1 1 1 1 and repeat while u wait for countdowns, or change weap and repeat the same system, and is not even innovative bc TSW have the same sistem but with 7 skills not 5. Fanboys cant be objetive so better if i try it for myselft next month.


Please try it. The combat is very good. I usually swap to range before a fight with my rifle, stack the bleed condition using the 1 key a few times, move in, use 5 for my knock back, press ~ swap to greatsword, press 2 - Thousand Blades, press 3 - Whirlwind attack, press 4 or 5 - Bladetrail or Rush, so I can keep close to the mob. That was my main way to fight a mob that did not use conditions. I usually try to keep range on mobs that are condition heavy. I start off with 3 - Whirlwind Attack, (close enough so it will hit multiple times and give me some distance from the mob) press 4 - Bladetrail for the cripple, press ~ swap to rifle, press 1 to stack some bleeds, press 3 - Volley, for multiple quick shots.

 

I've stayed pure greatsword using Thousand blades and Whirlwind if I know I can keep multiple mobs close together and just risked the damage. (Still won't do this if the mobs stack bleeds. Bleeds suck ass!)

You see, right here, and I bet you guys missed it. This guy gets it!

Its not just spam 1111223 rinse repeat. I had no idea MMO players were so stuck in thier mold, I knew it was there, but not this bad!

Combat in GW2 can be simple or intense, as you see from cyresses example, it can be very intense. With so many skills to choose from you can come up with many strategies for many situations. Or as darkpony said, you may find yourself gimped beyond hope.

This is not the same old combat

 

EDIT: thanks OP for the vids, good stuff!

  fiontar

Advanced Member

Joined: 4/07/04
Posts: 3713

3/27/12 5:12:02 PM#34
Originally posted by DarkPony
Originally posted by MorbidCurio
Originally posted by DarkPony

The whole elaborate weapon swapping + changing skills looks good. Not too sure about having only access to a limited amount of circumstantial abilities at a time though. Would have to play it to see myself.

 

It's not a terrible system, really.

 

Honestly, it's just a different way of creating a skill or talent build...whatever the hell you want to call it, same difference.

 

Six hotkeys with a limited number of points to put in to your different schools. This does make your choice of school and hotkeys more important, but it also means there's always going to be abilities that you never use.

 

That's poor design.

 

You should never make an ability or spell that a player can't always get some use out of. If you have access to a spell, you should be able to use it. At any time.

 

Just my opinion of course.

 

Yup. It's like packing your suitcase and getting on a plane with a random destination; you might end up wearing bermuda shorts and slippers on Nova Scotia. *shivers*

Much of the mastery of combat in many other games are about having access to a wide variety of skills (of which many circumstantial). Knowing when to use which one separates the skilled player from the *cough* less skilled player.

Though I think in some games (like Swtor) they went overboard with that; I'd rather have one good stun with a reasonable CD, than four crappy, very circumstantial ones. Fumbling for the right abilities is a chore in some games; I am talking 25+ hotkeyed abilities and consumables in the case of Swtor. That's a bit too much to my liking but 10 is the other end of the spectrum I guess.

 

 

Ok. At a minimum, a character that has unlocked all ten ability slots will have access to 15 skills once in combat. The five right bar skills and two sets of left bar skills, based on the two weapon sets. Elementalists have the four elemental attunements, which alter the weapon skills completely. Even though they don't have a second weapon set during combat, the attunements mean they have access to 25 skills while in combat. 5 for each attunement and the 5 right bar skills. Engineer is similar, but rather than attunements, they have kits, like flame throwers, grenades, bombs, etc...

Other professions have mechanics that can grant them additional skills during combat.

That's a pretty solid amount of versatility in combat and very few skills I've seen are so situational that they will be rarely used.

However, don't forget that you can freely change your weapon sets while out of combat, along with your right bar skills. Even though you need to go to a trainer to redistribute trait points, you can swap slotted traits with in your trait lines out in the field, (out of combat), as well. So you have good versatility once locked into combat, but pretty exceptional versatility when approaching (or re-engaging) challenges that might require a more specific strategy than your general skill load out is best suited for.

We haven't even talked about cross profession combos, which will add another element to skill use when playing in a group with others.

Your skills are very manageable in combat and, depending on your skill load out, offer fair to excellent versatility during a fight, but you have a lot more versatility based on adjustments you can make out in the field. I can't think of another MMORPG that allows you to change your skill set so freely in anticipation of extraordinary or highly specific challenges. (Rift gives you up to four builds to switch between, but GW2 gives you great latitude to fine tune and assemble multitudes of builds right out in the game world).

Want to know more about GW2 and why there is so much buzz? Start here: Guild Wars 2 Mass Info for the Uninitiated

2 Pages « 1 2 Search