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  heartless

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

3/22/12 1:11:33 AM#21
Originally posted by Konfess
Originally posted by PyreSpirit

Reading the faq of it, it's a fail right out of the gate when they decided on two factions. It's been demonstrated again and again that three factions is required for really in-depth pvp action.


Two factions leads to one dominating the other almost universally. Three factions leads to more dynamic action, where if one starts getting ahead, the other two will team up on them.

Having played Planetside and attended public 7th grade, I would have to say no.  Anyone who studies the animal kingdom will tell you that the strong turn on the weak, and the weak don't team up against the strong.

We're not really part of the "animal kingdom" and human history is full of examples where multiple weaker entities united against a stronger enemy.

  eyeswideopen

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3/22/12 1:21:20 AM#22
Originally posted by Konfess
Originally posted by PyreSpirit

Reading the faq of it, it's a fail right out of the gate when they decided on two factions. It's been demonstrated again and again that three factions is required for really in-depth pvp action.


Two factions leads to one dominating the other almost universally. Three factions leads to more dynamic action, where if one starts getting ahead, the other two will team up on them.

Having played Planetside and attended public 7th grade, I would have to say no.  Anyone who studies the animal kingdom will tell you that the strong turn on the weak, and the weak don't team up against the strong.

Google "Indian Summer". Or "French Resistance". Or even "American Revolution". Then get back to us.

-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  Konfess

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3/22/12 1:47:33 AM#23
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Konfess
Originally posted by PyreSpirit

Reading the faq of it, it's a fail right out of the gate when they decided on two factions. It's been demonstrated again and again that three factions is required for really in-depth pvp action.


Two factions leads to one dominating the other almost universally. Three factions leads to more dynamic action, where if one starts getting ahead, the other two will team up on them.

Having played Planetside and attended public 7th grade, I would have to say no.  Anyone who studies the animal kingdom will tell you that the strong turn on the weak, and the weak don't team up against the strong.

We're not really part of the "animal kingdom" and human history is full of examples where multiple weaker entities united against a stronger enemy.

 

Scientific classification e
Kingdom: Animalia   <=
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

Human

History is written by the victor, and the victor never lies.

Pardon any spelling errors
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  heartless

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Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. -Carl Sagan

3/22/12 2:45:08 AM#24
Originally posted by Konfess
Originally posted by heartless
Originally posted by Konfess
Originally posted by PyreSpirit

Reading the faq of it, it's a fail right out of the gate when they decided on two factions. It's been demonstrated again and again that three factions is required for really in-depth pvp action.


Two factions leads to one dominating the other almost universally. Three factions leads to more dynamic action, where if one starts getting ahead, the other two will team up on them.

Having played Planetside and attended public 7th grade, I would have to say no.  Anyone who studies the animal kingdom will tell you that the strong turn on the weak, and the weak don't team up against the strong.

We're not really part of the "animal kingdom" and human history is full of examples where multiple weaker entities united against a stronger enemy.

 

Scientific classification e
Kingdom: Animalia   <=
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

Human

History is written by the victor, and the victor never lies.

Your original point still doesn't apply to us. Yes, humans are animals but intelligence wise we are magnitudes above other animals. We can reason, think logically and not only use tools but also create them. We are also very social. As a metter of fact, we became what we are now because millions of years ago, animals which eventually evolved into humans, banded together for protection against predators. Much later, early homo sapiens continued to live in groups for mutual benefit. Protection, hunting, etc.

See, it is in our nature to band together, so your original point does not apply.

As far as your history comment, I guess the fact that during WWII a group of countries banded together in order to stop another, stronger group of countries was a lie, right?

  Votan

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3/22/12 8:03:31 AM#25

Even if the game is decent which is suspect Derek Smart will do or say something where it will not matter at all. 


  Velocinox

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3/22/12 1:59:51 PM#26
Originally posted by Konfess

( In my best Mr. Rogers impression. )

Hello boys and girls.  Can you spot which of the Derek Smart ....... in this thread .... for the ... ... ...... he has ... ....... in the ....?  Here's a clue, what games are you .. ...... ..... ..?

( Please enjoy the irony and sarcasm. )

The only way a community is gonna get the game they want is to make it themselves.  I applaud any independent producer, who attempts to go it his own in this industry.

[Self Modded]

At least we know Derek's MMORPG.com alias now.

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  dsmart

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3/22/12 4:03:37 PM#27

What MMORPG alias are you talking about? I only post as me.


Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.

  Konfess

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3/22/12 9:26:27 PM#28
Originally posted by Velocinox
Originally posted by Konfess

( In my best Mr. Rogers impression. )

Hello boys and girls.  Can you spot which of the Derek Smart ....... in this thread .... for the ... ... ...... he has ... ....... in the ....?  Here's a clue, what games are you .. ...... ..... ..?

( Please enjoy the irony and sarcasm. )

The only way a community is gonna get the game they want is to make it themselves.  I applaud any independent producer, who attempts to go it his own in this industry.

[Self Modded]

At least we know Derek's MMORPG.com alias now.

hahaha, You thought I was Derek Smart?

Pardon any spelling errors
Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven
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Mom: We don't talk to Priests.

  dsmart

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3/24/12 1:31:02 PM#29

Yeah - that never gets old around here apparently.


Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.

  Velocinox

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3/25/12 8:29:07 PM#30

and here I always thought, "Speak of the devil and he doth appear" was just medieval superstition.

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  dsmart

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Posts: 201

3/26/12 10:38:46 AM#31

and here I always thought, "People on the intarweb already had enough brain cells to differentiate fact from fiction from urban legend. Oh - and that they actually knew what Google Alerts actually did"


I guess I was wrong.


 


Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.

  Uronksur

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3/26/12 10:55:25 PM#32
Originally posted by Velocinox

and here I always thought, "Speak of the devil and he doth appear" was just medieval superstition.

Oh shit no way, it actually happens. That is somewhat eerie.

 



 
  Uronksur

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3/26/12 10:58:09 PM#33
Originally posted by dsmart

and here I always thought, "People on the intarweb already had enough brain cells to differentiate fact from fiction from urban legend. Oh - and that they actually knew what Google Alerts actually did"


I guess I was wrong.


 

Yes, well, there really isn't any reason I can think of that people using the internet would be universally aware of some arcane service by Google. 

  dsmart

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3/27/12 1:32:03 PM#34

Originally posted by Uronksur


Originally posted by dsmart


and here I always thought, "People on the intarweb already had enough brain cells to differentiate fact from fiction from urban legend. Oh - and that they actually knew what Google Alerts actually did"




I guess I was wrong.




 



Yes, well, there really isn't any reason I can think of that people using the internet would be universally aware of some arcane service by Google. 



 




Ignorance is never - ever - an excuse.


Game developers are just human beings who happen to make games for a living.
If you want to hold us up to higher standards of conduct, then go ahead
...but don't be surprised if we don't uphold them.

  eyeswideopen

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3/27/12 1:34:23 PM#35
Originally posted by dsmart

and here I always thought, "People on the intarweb already had enough brain cells to differentiate fact from fiction from urban legend. Oh - and that they actually knew what Google Alerts actually did"


I guess I was wrong.


 

You continually state you don't give a shit what people say about you, yet you use google alerts to keep up on what people are saying about you?

-Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
-And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  Velocinox

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Posts: 674

3/27/12 2:55:05 PM#36



Originally posted by eyeswideopen
You continually state you don't give a shit what people say about you, yet you use google alerts to keep up on what people are saying about you?


 
It's only so he can make sure they know that he doesn't care. His lack of caring is important to him.

'Sandbox MMO' is a PTSD trigger word for anyone who has the experience to know that anonymous players invariably use a 'sandbox' in the same manner a housecat does.


No game is more fun than the one you can't play, and no game is more boring than the one you've become familiar with.


How to become a millionaire:
Start with a billion dollars and make an MMO.

  Uronksur

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Posts: 310

3/27/12 4:53:44 PM#37
Originally posted by dsmart

Originally posted by Uronksur


Originally posted by dsmart


and here I always thought, "People on the intarweb already had enough brain cells to differentiate fact from fiction from urban legend. Oh - and that they actually knew what Google Alerts actually did"




I guess I was wrong.




 


Yes, well, there really isn't any reason I can think of that people using the internet would be universally aware of some arcane service by Google. 



 



Ignorance is never - ever - an excuse.

That's hilarious reasoning. Quick, Smart:

What is the most popular method of populating K-space and why?

Who reformed the Spartan constitution?

What is the mechanism of action of monoamine oxidase inhibitors?

Which gate does Aeneas depart the underworld through?

What is the joint at midline in the pelvis?

According to De Bello Gallico, what turned the tide of Gaius Julius Caesar's beach landing in the first invasion of Britain?

What bone is the last to finish development in humans?

What Christian Church Father is famous for discussing the "divine darkness"?

What secondary structure is responsible for voltage gating in certain ion channels?

What is Camillo Golgi notable for?

What is Hahn Spin Echo?

What were Dumnorix's last words?

What priesthood did Marcus Antonius hold circa 49 B.C.?

Who reformed the Athenian constitution?

 


"Ignorance is never - ever - an excuse", so I'm confident you can answer all of these correctly without using reference materials?

Or maybe you are just wrong and ignorance is reasonable when there is no plausible reason for someone to know a particular random fact.

  Loktofeit

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3/27/12 5:46:55 PM#38

Just a reminder that now that you have Smart's attention, you can either

 

take the tried and true route of provoking him, getting a reaction and then saying "See! He's a meanie!"

ooooorrrrr

use this opportunity to constructively engage him in conversation.

/centarz

"And wikipedia is as accurate as Britannica. Wikipedia is very reliable. You would be hard pressed to find a more reliable source for these kinds of things." -fivoroth

  Uronksur

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3/27/12 5:54:58 PM#39
Originally posted by Loktofeit

Just a reminder that now that you have Smart's attention, you can either

 

take the tried and true route of provoking him, getting a reaction and then saying "See! He's a meanie!"

ooooorrrrr

use this opportunity to constructively engage him in conversation.

/centarz

Hm? I would appear to be going with the latter. I'm hardly being provocative. He said something, I agreed with him, he made a silly remark, I pointed out how it was silly.

  exdeathbr

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5/24/12 10:24:44 PM#40

People complain about derek smart first game but it was released before it was finished, without derek smart consent. So the first game is not a game.

 

Another thing, I dont know, but sounds like that after that  (releasing the game without telling him), I think that, derek smart got too scary of spending too much time developing a game and made quicker releases.  I think that some of the problems with his newer games came because of that.

In my opinion he should spend more time developing his games, to make them reach their full potential.

 

Anyway, this online game was a good idea, he will be able to focus more on bug-fixes and on adding stuff, because the game will always be upgrading. Also people will be able to complain as they play the game and because this is a mmo,  derek will be able to fix some stuff while they are complaining. Instead of having to wait for new game releases.

 

I think more developers should be like derek, releasing stuff he want, to the userbase he want, without caring about the carebears. There is a market to hardcore games.

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