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3/26/12 6:15:21 PM#41
Originally posted by Distopia Or you could say it's like buying a treasure map - then you have to go in game and find the treasure and that is your reward. Like you said, it's all about how it is implemented. I highly doubt Anet would place them on the loot tables of random mobs you'd kill in the world. You are right, the "I'm sorry you can't get loot from the monster you just killed unles you pay 1.99$" would be a terrible idea, so terrible, in fact, no one would be stupid enough to do it.
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3/26/12 6:16:58 PM#42
Originally posted by BlahTeeb Now, can someone explain to me how this WON'T happen? Or is it only a matter of time before gold devalues and we have an item in the cash shop that will have to be bought to trade for any in game item?
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3/26/12 6:19:35 PM#43
Originally posted by Roybe Strict control over the rate in which currency is added into the world (gold/karma) versus sales figures for gems. MMO History: |
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3/26/12 6:20:50 PM#44
Every MMO has a system where you can buy gold with real money, it's called chinese gold farming. Difference is that in GW2 gold doesn't mean nearly as much as other MMO's. Maybe i just know too much about the game to think it could ever be an issue (and i know too much about MMO's to think gold selling wont happen), but i didn't give the slightest damn when they announced the ability to 'buy gold' via trading useful diamonds to other players legally. It should be a pretty big massive 'wait a second' sign if people who've been following the game for years and years see the cash shop and don't even blink, yet people who jumped on the hype train in February are freaking out. |
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3/26/12 6:21:18 PM#45
Originally posted by BadSpock Cryptic basically did. But you're right I'm not saying they will be like that just hoping they're not :). For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson If you can't argue the point don't say anything at all. |
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3/26/12 6:22:56 PM#46
Originally posted by BadSpock Also gems can only be purchased with gold, much like Spiral Knigths energy. There is no direct trade for gems<---->items |
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3/26/12 6:23:31 PM#47
The mystic chests are essentially the same as the ones in TF2. If you get one you just trade it for something.
I get the feeling they'll be removed though. I just don't see them selling well.
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3/26/12 6:25:18 PM#48
Originally posted by Requiamer Really, why is everyone ignoring what this guy is saying? Is it wrong or do people just not want to acknowledge that this might be a problem? |
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3/26/12 6:25:24 PM#49
Currenly GW2 is a pay to win game. There are several elements in the cash shop that give players willing to spend money significant time advantages. People will level to 80 faster if they pay than if they do ot. In WvWvW, where gear and progression will matter, anyone who does not pay for the time savers will be significantly behind those that do.
I plead to you TC to avoid this game like the plague, unless you plan on spending several 100s of dollars on the cash shop. I do not want you to waste your time. |
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3/26/12 6:26:53 PM#50
Originally posted by AvatarBlade He is 100% correct and there are serious issues with this cash shop that the majority of fans are choosing to ignore. It is really a sad state of affairs. |
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3/26/12 6:27:48 PM#51
Originally posted by Monorojo Lol. You'll always be behind someone. If they spent £100 or so to get exp boosts until they hit 80, let them do it until their heart's content. I doesn't make any difference to me. In WvW i don't even know their name. Also, when you're also level 80, they have no advantage over you. Therefore, not pay 2 win. However, it's abundant that people certainly don't have to Pay 2 derp about pay 2 win.
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3/26/12 6:29:22 PM#52
It's like all these people who keep saying "Oh Pay2WIN cause it's a little faster" don't realize that there is a ceiling and it's going to be pretty easy to catch up and hit that ceiling... Unlike some games where you cannot ever catch up no matter what you do and have elements of pay to win. MMO History: |
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3/26/12 6:30:20 PM#53
Originally posted by BadSpock It also shows the underlying, pathetic truth: Standard MMO's value time, not player skill. It's only 'play 2 win' because the pathetic MMO genre thinks time = skill.
To the whiners: go on, spend £2k in the cash shop. Buy up all the 1 hour exp boosts you can, I'll meet you in PvP and crush you regardless ;) |
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Originally posted by ComfyChair But how pissed will you be when you don't? Because like all cash shops what is in it at the start isn't what's going to be there several months after release, its the nature of these things. How pissed are you going to be when the sword of a thousand truths is on the cash shop for 200 and some rich boy with more money than sense that never could beat you before gets it and starts 3 shotting you? |
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3/26/12 6:35:48 PM#55
Originally posted by KingGator Never happened in Guild Wars 1. What makes you think it will happen in Guild Wars 2?
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3/26/12 6:36:25 PM#56
Originally posted by BadSpock Although I stated the problem as valuation, it isn't really about valuation per se (although it's related). It's about the perception of what the 'real' currency is. People that want to sell something MIGHT want 'RL money' (or its equivalent) rather than in game gold. This is the problem I'm thinking about. If the seller refuses gold and only accepts gems, gold is worthless to them. IF this happens broadly in the game, the economy is only run by those spending in the cash shop.
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3/26/12 6:36:40 PM#57
Originally posted by KingGator Oh he is going to rage soooo hard! lol A lot of people defending the current items in the cash shop are incredibly short sighted. They do not understand how far Anet will push this (as much as possible). This is just the beginning and the situation is going to get worse fast. |
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Originally posted by BadSpock Human nature, and this was a much more expensive production than Guild Wars 1, they're going to be looking to get their money out, which I have no problem with, just generally don't like p2w. And I repeat, i don't know that's what its going to be, i fear it is all. :) |
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Originally posted by Monorojo
Yeap, but whatever, I am a game hopper anyways, when this comes out I'll dump swtor(which sucks)and play it until copernicus gets released, so I only need it to stay sane for about 6 months. :) |
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3/26/12 6:42:43 PM#60
Originally posted by KingGator True, but atleast that game you mentioned isn't Pay to Win. |
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