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General Discussion  » Question: If guild wars 2 is not about the Items/Gear or the levels then what is the carrot?

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  Dream_Chaser

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Joined: 4/14/11
Posts: 1054

3/23/12 12:26:46 PM#221

I love the continuing insinuations that a game is terribad if it isn't specifically catered to a particular crowd. See, I mean... that's just playing up to the self-entitled, self-imporant qualities I commonly claim to see in gamers, and I'm seeing it here right now. Not all games have to be designed for you, specifically. Not all games need to have you as the target demographic.

Attacking the game like this seems like a sly way of saying "I'll talk less smack about the game if you focus more of the game's elements upon me. That works, right? I can harm the game that way?" and it's a bit insidious. I've seen a lot of that. But thet hing is is that, no - it doesn't work. In fact, it does the opposite.

The reason being is that it cements ArenaNet's focus on other demographics.

ArenaNet tend to read around forums, and on seeing stuff like this, they're going to think: Okay, we've lost those guys, if we ever had them. Okay, the token elements of our game we threw in for those guys? Screw it. Let's focus on the people who actually want to play our game, let's redefine our focus. And in the next campaign let's not even bother to throw other demographics a bone at all, because they're not going to buy the game anyway, so why bother with them?

So if Guild Wars 2 becomes ever less and less the game you want to play, then you've only got yourselves to blame. The more you make it out to be a bad game just because it doesn't focus on you, specifically, like I said, the more you convince everyone (including ArenaNet) that the game was never meant for you.

I think we've already established that the game just isn't meant for carrot-obsessed progressionists, and hey, if things keep going the way they do, ArenaNet may not even bother with a level advancement for the next campaign, because that would suit their target demographic. Honestly? Keep going! The more you alienate ArenaNet by saying their game is terrible just because it doesn't focus on you, the stronger a foothold you give those who do support it. Because we can just say: Look at this thread and see who your true supporters are.

 

  UOvet

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Joined: 6/26/07
Posts: 510

3/23/12 12:35:39 PM#222
Originally posted by Kyuz0o

Why do people need a "Carrot" in MMOs? If you play Counter Strike you don`t have a carrot other then having fun! So yeah, in GW2 you get to eat the carrot, you have fun :)

If you get sick of it after a while put it aside, you can come back any time the game is yours.

Exactly.

Found it funny the OP was pretty much wanting a carrot for his MMO game. Ugh, I miss the older gaming mentality.

 

Who knew there was a day when one played MMOs for fun and an FPS just for the hell of it?

  Excalaber2

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Joined: 3/25/07
Posts: 354

3/23/12 12:48:52 PM#223

I feel like this is equivalent to asking "Where is the mathematic score" in this game?  In other words, how can I quantitatively compare myself to someone else online and prove I am better?

I believe the answer will end up being "The way you actually play the game will show whether or not you are better than your neighbor".

It's a weird mentatlity to actually LOOK for the carrot or the grind or the artificial "MMO Staying power" from the company's perspective.

 

The carrot benefits the game publishers.  Not you.

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  Wraithone

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Joined: 7/09/04
Posts: 3559

If you can't kill it, don't make it mad.

3/24/12 7:46:37 AM#224
Originally posted by Adalwulff

The best part about GW2, is not having to deal with the mentality of the raider, or the soloer. I am sooo glad these guys have decided not to play GW2, I can barely contain my excitement!

Seriously, after a long day, and your ready to have some fun, you log onto a game and your ordered to level up faster, or sit through hours of raiding, the same dungeon youve been doing all week. Or the soloer who cant be bothered with anything..

You can PvE or WvW as long or as little as you feel like, and still have tons of fun. No chasing some stupid ole carrot...lol

 

Good times await my friends!!

 

Good times indeed! I for one, welcome a game that doesn't attempt to appeal to the majority of the modern gaming market.  Which lets face it, is the solo and to a much lesser extent the raider crowd.  I find it refreshing, that a modern MMO would not be designed to appeal to those demographics...

Back in reality, it should be pointed out that Guild Wars 2 is NOT the One True Game(tm), and those who are looking for IT, are setting themselves up for yet another terrible disappoinment.  If its an entertaining game, thats all I'm interested in. I stopped chasing the One True Game(tm) years ago. 

  grimfall

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Joined: 4/25/07
Posts: 1151

3/24/12 7:57:57 AM#225
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
 

You are farming appearance gear and achievements. Its identical to GW1 in that sense. In GW1 it was super easy to get your first set of the highest powered gear possible. However, people farmed the hard dungeons for months to get unique appearance gear. It didnt make them any more powerful than a fresh 20, but you could tell that they knew how to play just by looking at them.

I am glad there is no gear tiering in GW2. All that does is make old content obsolete whenever a new set of gear is released, and creating a gear barrier for new players to overcome to party with veteran players. As well as making PvP an unbalanced mess. When I kill someone in PvP, I want to know that it was because I outplayed them, not because my gear had better stats that made me innately harder to kill for no other reason than the fact that I have spent more time in the game.

If you need a carrot on a stick, this isnt the game for you. Its like console games, when you really love just playing them, you will work on the achievements and unlocks just for fun, not because it will make you better than anyone else playing.

Just had to LOL at that highlighted bit.  If you really wanted to do that you could just go into basically any MMO and duel people of the same level.  What you actually want to do is deliver the killing blow to someone who's distracted by something else going on and probabaly already injured from another fight.

  rdash

Novice Member

Joined: 3/08/08
Posts: 121

3/24/12 8:22:03 AM#226
Originally posted by grimfall
Originally posted by evilastro
Originally posted by DeserttFoxx
 

You are farming appearance gear and achievements. Its identical to GW1 in that sense. In GW1 it was super easy to get your first set of the highest powered gear possible. However, people farmed the hard dungeons for months to get unique appearance gear. It didnt make them any more powerful than a fresh 20, but you could tell that they knew how to play just by looking at them.

I am glad there is no gear tiering in GW2. All that does is make old content obsolete whenever a new set of gear is released, and creating a gear barrier for new players to overcome to party with veteran players. As well as making PvP an unbalanced mess. When I kill someone in PvP, I want to know that it was because I outplayed them, not because my gear had better stats that made me innately harder to kill for no other reason than the fact that I have spent more time in the game.

If you need a carrot on a stick, this isnt the game for you. Its like console games, when you really love just playing them, you will work on the achievements and unlocks just for fun, not because it will make you better than anyone else playing.

Just had to LOL at that highlighted bit.  If you really wanted to do that you could just go into basically any MMO and duel people of the same level.  What you actually want to do is deliver the killing blow to someone who's distracted by something else going on and probabaly already injured from another fight.

Just had to LOL at that highlighted bit. Since when, in any MMO, same level guarantees equal footing? You will stand no chance against fully geared (especially in PvP gear) players if you don't grind your gears, and being max level will help you nothing.

  Castillle

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3/24/12 8:48:10 AM#227
TURN BACK NOW!!! THERE IS NO CARROT! IT...IT...ack!

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  User Deleted
3/24/12 8:53:45 AM#228

there is currency to farm to be exchanged for gear the same way WoW has

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