I still play and love the game, the power levelers have skipped the content and bailed and they still dont have a cheesy cash shop ingame.

Win

yeah this game is ok .  But the voice chat gets old fast .  Basically go to point A and kill X or get Y .

It gets old fast to the point you just want to spacebar through the voice chat to get the quest underway . Which consists of a large amount of travelling from point A to B .

Getting groups for operations can be quite time consuming , I combat that by making 8 characters at once so I can fill any role needed .

PvP seems to suck but I havent done much so maybe it grows on people .

PVP is casual not for the hardcore PVP crowd its fun to fill time inbetween raids.  I  find the game to be fun and I enjoy pvping with guildmates.

Most people have bailed you mean... and good try on the pun for gw2 ;)

Yeah I'm enjoying the game as well..it has it's shortcomings but overall it's entertaining.  Would like to see them work on introducing a wider variety of races/classes to the game.  Bioware needs to take the leash off of space travel/combat.

To each his own my friend.

I am playing the game as well. The game isn't perfect though and far from it.

I've noticed that some of the voice overs were a bit cheaply done. With the same responces over and over in some of the conversations. It's inconcievable to me that they spent 300 - 500 million making this game though. I would assume it was all the voice actors they had to hire, because the rest of the game is a carbon copy of WoW with a few tweaks to crafting. Although I don't mind the game. I think alot of gamers are tired of playing the wow formula over and over again, and if you can't see that this is a clone you either must of not played wow, or are a total bioware fanboi. Thats just me though :)

The game for me is a good time waster for me, but I think I'll be checking out Archage because I'de rather play something a little differn't. Not to say it's a bad game because its not. It's just that it could of been alot better.

Originally posted by trash656

To each his own my friend.

 

It's inconcievable to me that they spent 300 - 500 million making this game though.

That's because they didn't.  The official number is 200 million.

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/20/the-force-is-with-swtor-ea-stock-bounces-back-budget-revealed/

They could have made four AAA mmorpgs with that money instead of that single player game with coop. The funny bit about the OPs pun against GW2 is that SW:TOR multiplayer resembles closer GW1, which is kind of sad considering the costs involved and the prices of admission asked.

until they fix the grouping issues, then i don't really see how the game could improve, it is supposed to be a MMO after all, without some kind of credible grouping tools, it just doesnt cut it.

Originally posted by trash656

To each his own my friend.

 

I am playing the game as well. The game isn't perfect though and far from it.

I've noticed that some of the voice overs were a bit cheaply done. With the same responces over and over in some of the conversations. It's inconcievable to me that they spent 300 - 500 million making this game though. I would assume it was all the voice actors they had to hire, because the rest of the game is a carbon copy of WoW with a few tweaks to crafting. Although I don't mind the game. I think alot of gamers are tired of playing the wow formula over and over again, and if you can't see that this is a clone you either must of not played wow, or are a total bioware fanboi. Thats just me though :)

The game for me is a good time waster for me, but I think I'll be checking out Archage because I'de rather play something a little differn't. Not to say it's a bad game because its not. It's just that it could of been alot better.

Just a minor detail but the list you posted there, I can find the same list using an even older mmo then WoW.

Originally posted by Phry

until they fix the grouping issues, then i don't really see how the game could improve, it is supposed to be a MMO after all, without some kind of credible grouping tools, it just doesnt cut it.

There's a group finder coming in 1.3 I think or sooner and probably cross server pvp after 1.2.   The game isn't great I just think people expected way too much out of it and cant accept its not for them so they have to bash it over and over.   Whoever though this game would be a great PVP game is wrong it a themepark MMO that worries about PVE more and thats been obvious for over 3 years. [Mod Edit]

Originally posted by William12

Originally posted by Phry

until they fix the grouping issues, then i don't really see how the game could improve, it is supposed to be a MMO after all, without some kind of credible grouping tools, it just doesnt cut it.

 

There's a group finder coming in 1.3 I think or sooner and probably cross server pvp after 1.2.   The game isn't great I just think people expected way too much out of it and cant accept its not for them so they have to bash it over and over. Whoever though this game would be a great PVP game is wrong it a themepark MMO that worries about PVE more and thats been obvious for over 3 years. [Mod Edit]

although i have zero interest in the PVP, other games do it much better after all, if they do introduce a proper group finding tool to the game then i will probably be resubbing, my biggest complaint was the time it took to find a group to do anything - you could easily spend an hour in fleet and not manage to get a group.

Game is good and with a lot of potential. I t will keep growing.

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by William12

Originally posted by Phry

until they fix the grouping issues, then i don't really see how the game could improve, it is supposed to be a MMO after all, without some kind of credible grouping tools, it just doesnt cut it.

 

There's a group finder coming in 1.3 I think or sooner and probably cross server pvp after 1.2.   The game isn't great I just think people expected way too much out of it and cant accept its not for them so they have to bash it over and over.  Whoever though this game would be a great PVP game is wrong it a themepark MMO that worries about PVE more and thats been obvious for over 3 years. [Mod Edit]

although i have zero interest in the PVP, other games do it much better after all, if they do introduce a proper group finding tool to the game then i will probably be resubbing, my biggest complaint was the time it took to find a group to do anything - you could easily spend an hour in fleet and not manage to get a group.

Yah why games keep releasing without this basic tool is beyond me time and time again they say nope not happening 3 months later they add it why wait if you're just gonna add it later.

Originally posted by William12

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by William12

Originally posted by Phry

until they fix the grouping issues, then i don't really see how the game could improve, it is supposed to be a MMO after all, without some kind of credible grouping tools, it just doesnt cut it.

 

There's a group finder coming in 1.3 I think or sooner and probably cross server pvp after 1.2.   The game isn't great I just think people expected way too much out of it and cant accept its not for them so they have to bash it over and over.  Whoever though this game would be a great PVP game is wrong it a themepark MMO that worries about PVE more and thats been obvious for over 3 years. [Mod Edit]

although i have zero interest in the PVP, other games do it much better after all, if they do introduce a proper group finding tool to the game then i will probably be resubbing, my biggest complaint was the time it took to find a group to do anything - you could easily spend an hour in fleet and not manage to get a group.

 

Yah why games keep releasing without this basic tool is beyond me time and time again they say nope not happening 3 months later they add it why wait if you're just gonna add it later.

true, the fleet hubs imo, were a nonsensical idea, having to wait there to do flashpoints is a needless time sink, that often ends in frustration if you can't get people to do them, having a cross server 'dungeon tool' would have made far more sense,  im okay on going to the quest givers in fleet to pick up the flashpoint quests from the consoles, but its a pain to have to stay there and spam for hours on end trying to get others to do them too, and when there are only like 40 or 50 other people in fleet and only 2 of them are within 10 levels of you.. it becomes an object lesson in frustration. Games have evolved, WoW, which SW;TOR is often likened to, has these basic tools. All i can think of, is why didnt Bioware see this as becoming an issue? The game is an MMO after all, grouping is a basic function of MMO's, or should be. I can see the appeal of allowing players to do so much solo, but that shouldnt be the mainstay of the game

Who are you trying to convince? The people who are justifyably disappointed about one of the most hyped games of all time or yourself?

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by William12

Originally posted by Phry

Originally posted by William12

Originally posted by Phry

until they fix the grouping issues, then i don't really see how the game could improve, it is supposed to be a MMO after all, without some kind of credible grouping tools, it just doesnt cut it.

 

There's a group finder coming in 1.3 I think or sooner and probably cross server pvp after 1.2.   The game isn't great I just think people expected way too much out of it and cant accept its not for them so they have to bash it over and over.   Whoever though this game would be a great PVP game is wrong it a themepark MMO that worries about PVE more and thats been obvious for over 3 years. [Mod Edit]

although i have zero interest in the PVP, other games do it much better after all, if they do introduce a proper group finding tool to the game then i will probably be resubbing, my biggest complaint was the time it took to find a group to do anything - you could easily spend an hour in fleet and not manage to get a group.

 

Yah why games keep releasing without this basic tool is beyond me time and time again they say nope not happening 3 months later they add it why wait if you're just gonna add it later.

true, the fleet hubs imo, were a nonsensical idea, having to wait there to do flashpoints is a needless time sink, that often ends in frustration if you can't get people to do them, having a cross server 'dungeon tool' would have made far more sense,  im okay on going to the quest givers in fleet to pick up the flashpoint quests from the consoles, but its a pain to have to stay there and spam for hours on end trying to get others to do them too, and when there are only like 40 or 50 other people in fleet and only 2 of them are within 10 levels of you.. it becomes an object lesson in frustration. Games have evolved, WoW, which SW;TOR is often likened to, has these basic tools. All i can think of, is why didnt Bioware see this as becoming an issue? The game is an MMO after all, grouping is a basic function of MMO's, or should be. I can see the appeal of allowing players to do so much solo, but that shouldnt be the mainstay of the game

WoW wasnt released with an functional LFG tool either.

Anyway techniclaly speaking there is a lfg system, you can toggle LFG and when people use the search option people withing the zone or what ever their search entry is will have LFG behind their names on the search list.

They probebly expected this to be enough AND to pick one of the most recent games that was released without as an excample.. when games anounce they are adding it the forums ussually end up being flooded with how the LFG tool destroys communities.

Originally posted by bumuscheekus

Who are you trying to convince? The people who are justifyably disappointed about one of the most hyped games of all time or yourself?

Any hype is their own fault.  We allow ourselfs to be excited about a game before its even out and most of the time our expectations are so high no game can live up to it and guild wars 2 will be the next in line people are already calling it the best MMO ever and its not even out.

Originally posted by bumuscheekus

Who are you trying to convince? The people who are justifyably disappointed about one of the most hyped games of all time or yourself?

This may come as a shock to you but there are plenty of people who are justifyable enjoying the game. So my question to you is who are you trying to convince? The people who justifyable enjoy the game of yourself for letting yourself get all hyped up about Lucas(arts) next project.

Originally posted by Paithan

Originally posted by bumuscheekus

Who are you trying to convince? The people who are justifyably disappointed about one of the most hyped games of all time or yourself?

This may come as a shock to you but there are plenty of people who are justifyable enjoying the game. So my question to you is who are you trying to convince? The people who justifyable enjoy the game of yourself for letting yourself get all hyped up about Lucas(arts) next project.

Hey, not shocked at all, I enjoyed it myself whilst I was playing, very polished and shiny. It fell far short of what I expected but que sera sera. I just don't fully understand the point of a thread that seems to be either attempting to positively reinforce something that should be intuitively obvious to those who like it or inviting of negative comments from those who don't.