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  sanshi44

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3/22/12 7:24:53 PM#21

MMORPG usualy always ask for more hardrive space than they use, this is to take into account for expansions and patches down the line. I know Everquest wanted 25gig hardrive space but it doesnt nearly take that much.

  darkhalf357x

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3/22/12 7:25:39 PM#22

LOL, yeah I said the same thing when I downloaded it the first during the last NA beta.  To make it worse, I was only getting like 100K/sec download speeds.  Found out if you reset the connection it will speed.  Took me about 2 days to get the whole thing.

SWTOR is also 25GB+ but I bought that and installed it ove.r 3 DVDs.  Definitely getting closer to the norm.

WoW when I downloaded last month was 6GB to download, plus another 6GB update.

Hell, I bought a dedicated gaming laptop just for MMOs :-)   Plays everything at max setting (except Everquest II), but it still looks nice.

See you guys tommorrow in the beta ;-)

  Sephiroso

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OP  3/22/12 7:36:41 PM#23

Well, my outrage of Tera seems to be one that the is of my own perception. This is the first game i've ever played thats been this big. Not Rift, not WoW, not FFXI, no others were even close. I guess its cause i dont really play that many AAA p2p/b2p titles so maybe thats why. And this really is the norm.

 

Regardless, as i said in my first post," Note, the main reason i'm so upset about this is the fact that my ssd is only 64gigs, and obviously after installing windows i dont have that kind of freaking space to throw to ONE game"

 

i'm just upset(minorly so, its not like in in ra3g mode or anything) that i cant put it on my ssd, i like having my games on my ssd but this one just cant fit, i might just buy a bigger one and sell off my 64gb one, ah well.


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  Loke666

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3/22/12 7:42:35 PM#24

AoC 35gig, GW2 26 gig... Most modern MMOs take up 25 gig+.

Old games like EQ, Wow and GW takes up less of course but good graphics takes up a lot of ram and singleplayer games like skyrim are a lot smaller than a MMO.

Sorry but if you think 30 gig is a lot that means that you either need to upgrade your computer with a new harddrive or get a new one. Or you can play old games.

  kileak

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3/22/12 7:44:07 PM#25
Originally posted by Sephiroso
i'm just upset(minorly so, its not like in in ra3g mode or anything) that i cant put it on my ssd, i like having my games on my ssd but this one just cant fit, i might just buy a bigger one and sell off my 64gb one, ah well.

depending on your system you might just want to keep only the os ont he small 64gig ssd and put your high end games on the new one if your gonna go that route. that would remove almost all bottlenecks regarding file access on your games. after that it's all cpu and then gpu, well it's more likely cpu>gpu>hd for tera, unsure where ram falls in line. and if you do have a large storage drive for other stuff can just save your money and just install tera there. i dont think your going to see any real performance hit with this game on a standard drive.

  Loke666

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3/22/12 7:44:24 PM#26
Originally posted by sanshi44

MMORPG usualy always ask for more hardrive space than they use, this is to take into account for expansions and patches down the line. I know Everquest wanted 25gig hardrive space but it doesnt nearly take that much.

In that case did they count in the swap file as well, not all MMOs do that. They also usually have different values for minimum space and recommended.

  rexzshadow

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3/22/12 7:47:47 PM#27
Originally posted by Sephiroso

Well, my outrage of Tera seems to be one that the is of my own perception. This is the first game i've ever played thats been this big. Not Rift, not WoW, not FFXI, no others were even close. I guess its cause i dont really play that many AAA p2p/b2p titles so maybe thats why. And this really is the norm.

 

Regardless, as i said in my first post," Note, the main reason i'm so upset about this is the fact that my ssd is only 64gigs, and obviously after installing windows i dont have that kind of freaking space to throw to ONE game"

 

i'm just upset(minorly so, its not like in in ra3g mode or anything) that i cant put it on my ssd, i like having my games on my ssd but this one just cant fit, i might just buy a bigger one and sell off my 64gb one, ah well.

I'm sorry but i find this to be stupid reason to be upset over  game about. Its your own problem that you can't fit Tera on you rssd. Not Tera's fault. Seriously if your computer only has 64giges you need an upgrade. First and formest playing games always required the best pc. The most expansive and best computer are used to run games, even programers and engineers don't need over kill PC like gamer do. So a game staying relevent and and requireing you to at least keep up with tech isn't really that rare speically when its asking you to keep up with disk space which by far is the CHEAPEST thing to keep up in consider how cheap they become over teh past few  years.

  Loke666

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3/22/12 7:48:34 PM#28
Originally posted by kileak
Originally posted by Sephiroso
i'm just upset(minorly so, its not like in in ra3g mode or anything) that i cant put it on my ssd, i like having my games on my ssd but this one just cant fit, i might just buy a bigger one and sell off my 64gb one, ah well.

depending on your system you might just want to keep only the os ont he small 64gig ssd and put your high end games on the new one if your gonna go that route. that would remove almost all bottlenecks regarding file access on your games. after that it's all cpu and then gpu, well it's more likely cpu>gpu>hd for tera, unsure where ram falls in line. and if you do have a large storage drive for other stuff can just save your money and just install tera there. i dont think your going to see any real performance hit with this game on a standard drive.

Agreed, or he could get 2 more 64 gB drives of the same type and raid them. That would also give him 128 GB only but it would be faster and with a parity drive.

Raiding SSDs isn't as much faster as raiding SATA drives but it is an improvement still and the parity drive is really a blessing if something happens. just throw out the broken drive and in with a new with no data loss, and any corrupted file can be fixed.

I am talking about raid 5 here, if your motherboard wont support it you would also need a raid card (not very expensive).

  Lolus

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3/22/12 7:55:23 PM#29

It's not that big

TERA Beta=23.6GB

WoW fully updated=22.4GB

WoW MoP Beta=17.4 GB

 

  User Deleted
3/22/12 8:08:59 PM#30
Originally posted by Sephiroso

Ok...in all my gaming years, i've never....even conceieved of one SINGLE game taking up so much goddamn space. I can't remember how much WoW took up, but it was not just one single game. It was a game, + 3 expansions(i stopped at wotlk).

 

Hell not even SKYRIM takes up 10gig, so what the HELL. This game is still in freaking beta, not even after-release patches/updates/expansions, and its already taking 30gigs? Am i really the only one freaking out over this?

 

Note, the main reason i'm so upset about this is the fact that my ssd is only 64gigs, and obviously after installing windows i dont have that kind of freaking space to throw to ONE game. I can easily fit it on my 2tb drive but fuck, i wanted all my games to go on my ssd and before this i had no problem. Sure i had to delete a game i hadnt played in 3 weeks to install skyrim, but hey, no big deal.

 

After clearing everything i could without breaking shit, i still need almost 20 freaking gigs to install this crap. Thats insane.

i don't mind how big they get. the bigger they are, hopefully the more content and variation of content. that'd be the general thought. i mean, you'd hope you get some bang for your gigs.

 

  Nevulus

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3/22/12 8:09:55 PM#31

lol people will complain about ANYTHING now-a-days.

 

  Kyleran

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3/22/12 9:03:17 PM#32

I don't know about how big it is, but have been downloading it for several hours now and it seems to just be going slower and slower. Rioght now it says it will take 2d 9h to install, so at this rate the beta this weekend will be over before its done.

And no, I don't have bad internet, Verizon FIOS 20/5 connection, guess everyone is just trying to get it installed tonight before the beta begins.

Well, perhaps it will speed up later as the evening goes on, we'll see in the morning.

 

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  rexzshadow

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3/22/12 9:28:56 PM#33

installling is purely based on your  computer not your internet. DLing part is based of your interenet, if its saying it take 2d than its your dl XD might be because everyone trying to dl it at the same time XD

  Sovrath

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3/22/12 9:36:23 PM#34

My install with patch is 23.9 gb.

  Sephiroso

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OP  3/22/12 10:21:55 PM#35
Originally posted by rexzshadow
Originally posted by Sephiroso

Well, my outrage of Tera seems to be one that the is of my own perception. This is the first game i've ever played thats been this big. Not Rift, not WoW, not FFXI, no others were even close. I guess its cause i dont really play that many AAA p2p/b2p titles so maybe thats why. And this really is the norm.

 

Regardless, as i said in my first post," Note, the main reason i'm so upset about this is the fact that my ssd is only 64gigs, and obviously after installing windows i dont have that kind of freaking space to throw to ONE game"

 

i'm just upset(minorly so, its not like in in ra3g mode or anything) that i cant put it on my ssd, i like having my games on my ssd but this one just cant fit, i might just buy a bigger one and sell off my 64gb one, ah well.

I'm sorry but i find this to be stupid reason to be upset over  game about. Its your own problem that you can't fit Tera on you rssd. Not Tera's fault. Seriously if your computer only has 64giges you need an upgrade. First and formest playing games always required the best pc. The most expansive and best computer are used to run games, even programers and engineers don't need over kill PC like gamer do. So a game staying relevent and and requireing you to at least keep up with tech isn't really that rare speically when its asking you to keep up with disk space which by far is the CHEAPEST thing to keep up in consider how cheap they become over teh past few  years.

first off, the main reason people even get ssd is for 1. their operating system and 2. to put w/e games/songs/videos/etc that they use the most. they'll have a secondary, usually hdd to take the rest of their crap. that being said, i guess i cant really fault you to much since i never did say that i did have a 2tb hdd but still, it should have been obvious, who the hell runs a computer system with ONLY 64gb nowadays?

 

secondly, i admitted my err in judgement in the post you quoted by saying it was apparently a perception of my own. tbh i've skipped all the recent AAA titles and so didnt know about the rising game file sizes. and fyi, ssd aint cheap. not that im saying its necessary either, obviously hdd's are cheap as fuck, but that's not in the scope of what my rant was about.

 

lastly, trust me, my gaming system is more than enough to handle tera, its just i wasn't expecting the game size to be so big, which just means i'll need to get a bigger ssd which isnt a problem, or like someone else said, keep it and just get a second one, but i think i'll probably just end up getting a bigger one just for simplicity's sake.

 

Originally posted by Nevulus

lol people will complain about ANYTHING now-a-days.

 

my rant may have come off a bit more ranty than i had originally meant it to be. im not mad or upset at all with tera and this will in no way detract me from trying it out in beta starting tommorrow when it opens.

this is the internet, you cant hear someone typing so can't be sure if they're mostly kidding but semi serious or if they're stirfry crazy.


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  Pivotelite

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3/23/12 12:52:15 AM#36
Originally posted by Kyleran

I don't know about how big it is, but have been downloading it for several hours now and it seems to just be going slower and slower. Rioght now it says it will take 2d 9h to install, so at this rate the beta this weekend will be over before its done.

And no, I don't have bad internet, Verizon FIOS 20/5 connection, guess everyone is just trying to get it installed tonight before the beta begins.

Well, perhaps it will speed up later as the evening goes on, we'll see in the morning.

 

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  palulalula

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3/23/12 12:56:21 AM#37

Sorry wrong, didnt read all :)

  Nadia

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3/23/12 12:57:42 AM#38
Originally posted by Sephiroso

Hell not even SKYRIM takes up 10gig, so what the HELL. This game is still in freaking beta, not even after-release patches/updates/expansions, and its already taking 30gigs? Am i really the only one freaking out over this?

Guild Wars2 wants 25 gig

  stayontarget

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3/23/12 2:05:02 AM#39
Originally posted by Sovrath

My install with patch is 23.9 gb.

With full lv60 content the client will be around 34-35gb (as viewed from my Ktera client).

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  lonexilesoul

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3/23/12 2:17:38 AM#40

Installed game size is almost as installers.

And because they are in 1 folder (main, game) = double size.

So just delete install folder from game folder (this one with archives).

 

I dont had 30 gb on my main SSD, so when progress stoped with error "No space.." just deleted one by one install archives, and installed successfull game.

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