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  Zolgar

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3/21/12 11:50:18 PM#41

According to the stickied thread about Kepler news on Tom's Hardware, people are saying that NewEgg has responded to a few e-mails saying it will release at 6AM (PST I assume).

 

Then someone else linked THIS from xtremesystems. 

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  Kabaal

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3/22/12 3:28:14 AM#42
Originally posted by Zolgar

According to the stickied thread about Kepler news on Tom's Hardware, people are saying that NewEgg has responded to a few e-mails saying it will release at 6AM (PST I assume).

 

Then someone else linked THIS from xtremesystems. 

It's true as far as i can tell, the info i posted last night saying the NDA will be lifted today at 13:00 and stores will start listing them came from the purchasing manager of overclockers.co.uk.

 

There's only a few hours until sites start posting some in depth reviews but here's some more info he's posted :

Regarding the new boost system on the card:

Correct, the boost is marginal, unless you set overclocks.

For example, when I ran Heaven earlier my GPU clock increased too 1201MHz, yet when I was playing Quake III it stayed at 1006MHz. Yet I had not changed any of the settings in afterburner.

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I assume they are all 100% reference hardware wise and the only USP will be warranty, bundled software and cables?

Correct.

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UK Price will be ~£420

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In short, all cards reference design, no 4GB parts anytime soon. OC models about 2-4 weeks away but just OC yourself.

Card is mega quiet and is only 2x 6pin power connectors as they have very low TDP and run very cool.

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Regarding card size:

Two slots, about 10" long.

 

 

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  Zolgar

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3/22/12 3:43:25 AM#43

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  Kabaal

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3/22/12 3:56:53 AM#44

Saw that earlier Zolgar, not a very interesting benchmark tbh with the games they selected and they mixed up some of the card results.

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  Khrymson

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OP  3/22/12 6:17:37 AM#45

3D Center Benchmarks ~ more ~ more

Love it, the 680 is destroying the 580 handily, and in many cases on par with or beating the GTX 590.

 

Tweaktown GTX 680 Review and Benchmarks

nVidia GTX 680 301.10 Drivers

 

 

 

  Kabaal

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3/22/12 6:47:27 AM#46

I wouldn't say they are destroying anything. from the info that's starting to flood the net now the 680 is coming ahead at 1200p but as soon as the res is upped it starts performing the same as the 7970, BF3 benchmarks for example @2560X1600 puts them practically neck and neck.

The real thing that's going to differentiate them is overclocking and 3 monitor performance which has yet to be seen. Another hour and that info should start appearing.

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OP  3/22/12 6:58:00 AM#47
Originally posted by Kabaal

I wouldn't say they are destroying anything. from the info that's starting to flood the net now the 680 is coming ahead at 1200p but as soon as the res is upped it starts performing the same as the 7970, BF3 benchmarks for example @2560X1600 puts them practically neck and neck.

The real thing that's going to differentiate them is overclocking and 3 monitor performance which has yet to be seen. Another hour and that info should start appearing.

 

Don't care about gaming over 1920*1080, so its a great GPU for my habits.  Once you start going higher, then you can't run all the extra Ultra, AA and additional forced settings like I do without taking a huge FPS drop.

 

The % of gamers that play at 2560+ resolutions is very small, so thats not something the average gamer should be worried about.  The 680 performs very well at the standard 1920*1080, and thats the majority of gamers resolutions.

 

There is a video of  680 SLi and triple monitor performance already out:

Newegg TV: EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 680 SLi & Triple Monitor Benchmarks

 

Oops, link fixed...

  Kabaal

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3/22/12 7:27:07 AM#48

You do realise that these cards are aimed at that exact small percentage of gamers? Its great that you're only interested in your own 1080p monitor but most people who may buy the cards, including myself, play at higher reolutions.

That newegg benchmark was a waste of time, no game performance information whatsoever.

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  Betaguy

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3/22/12 7:29:02 AM#49
Originally posted by Quizzical

Don't you think it would make more sense to wait until reviews are out, and then decide after that?  What if the GTX 680 isn't much faster than a GTX 580?

Kyle on HardOCP has some interesting comments:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1681041

"We have 2560 and 5760 coverage coming your way. Not the same story as 1080P."

"You will see some of it this time because we feel as though we are not telling the entire story if we fully leave 1080P out this time."

(Usually they go for highest playable settings, and if a game is playable on a card at 2560x1600 and fairly high settings, they won't even post results at lower resolutions.)

"I am thinking this is what you will see out of us.

Stock clocks - some 1080p - 2560 - 5760

then - SLI

then OCed cards head to head

 As you will see on launch day, there are some things making comparisons a little less black and white. And quite frankly, people relying on canned and synthetic benchmarks are [censored] in having a true analysis. And it is just going to get harder to evaluate properly. Brent and I are on top of it and will be making the investments going forward to make HardOCP the best GPU site in the world."

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As I read it, it sounds like there's something weird going on, and it's not a simple case of, this card is 20% faster than that one.  Charlie on SemiAccurate said a while ago that Kepler will have a lot more variation in performance from one game to the next than normal.  As in, GK104 would beat Tahiti in some games and lose to Pitcairn in others.

In the previous generation, Northern Islands scaled to high resolutions a lot better than Fermi.  So it was pretty common to have two cards playing the same game at fixed settings (except changing resolution), and the AMD card wins handily at 2560x1600, while the Nvidia card wins handily at 1280x1024.  The other way around basically never happened unless the AMD card didn't have enough video memory and the Nvidia card did.

This created the odd situation where, for example, a GeForce GTX 560 Ti would often post higher frame rates than a Radeon HD 6950 in situations where both cards were fast enough that the difference didn't matter (e.g., 100 frames per second versus 90).  But in situations where the frame rates were low enough for the difference to matter (e.g., 45 versus 40), the Radeon HD 6950 nearly always beat a GeForce GTX 560 Ti, and sometimes by a lot.

retracting my comment, I don't usually talk tech talk because it is like talking politics and religion.  Never ends well.

  Khrymson

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OP  3/22/12 8:21:28 AM#50

EVGA GTX 680 ~ Overview

EVGA Precision X & nVidia GPU Boost ~ the new Precision X is very nice!

  Jimmy562

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3/22/12 8:38:25 AM#51
Originally posted by Khrymson
Originally posted by Kabaal

I wouldn't say they are destroying anything. from the info that's starting to flood the net now the 680 is coming ahead at 1200p but as soon as the res is upped it starts performing the same as the 7970, BF3 benchmarks for example @2560X1600 puts them practically neck and neck.

The real thing that's going to differentiate them is overclocking and 3 monitor performance which has yet to be seen. Another hour and that info should start appearing.

 

Don't care about gaming over 1920*1080, so its a great GPU for my habits.  Once you start going higher, then you can't run all the extra Ultra, AA and additional forced settings like I do without taking a huge FPS drop.

 

The % of gamers that play at 2560+ resolutions is very small, so thats not something the average gamer should be worried about.  The 680 performs very well at the standard 1920*1080, and thats the majority of gamers resolutions.

 

There is a video of  680 SLi and triple monitor performance already out:

Newegg TV: EVGA nVidia GeForce GTX 680 SLi & Triple Monitor Benchmarks

 

Oops, link fixed...

You won't be needing a 680 for 1080 resolution. I use a 480GTX for 1080 and run everything maxed at decent fps so I can't see the reason to spend what ever the 680 will cost for an unnecessary FPS boost unless for some reason you like seeing a higher number.

 

  Khrymson

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OP  3/22/12 8:48:56 AM#52
Originally posted by Jimmy562
You won't be needing a 680 for 1080 resolution. I use a 480GTX for 1080 and run everything maxed at decent fps so I can't see the reason to spend what ever the 680 will cost for an unnecessary FPS boost unless for some reason you like seeing a higher number.

 

To each their own, but its not entirely about a higher FPS.  I enjoy running my games at their peak performance with all the bells and whistles {including masses of mods ~ ex. Skyrim} running and that takes quite a bit of additional power.  All the while keeping a more than decent FPS.  

 

I'm keeping my PC updated with the latest tech so I don't have such a huge difference to pay when the best of the best GPUs launch later this year.  The 580 that I currently own has had a price drop recently, and should I wait until later this fall, it may drop again and not be worth as much.  Thus selling the 580 now while I can still get about $300-$350 for it is nominal.  Whereas later on I may only get $200-$250.

 

The GTX 680 is only $500, so I'm really only paying about $200 for it.  Considering the benchmarks being released as I type, this 680 is killing the 580 in just about everything, so its very well worth it, at least to me!

 

  Jimmy562

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3/22/12 9:04:50 AM#53
Originally posted by Khrymson
Originally posted by Jimmy562
You won't be needing a 680 for 1080 resolution. I use a 480GTX for 1080 and run everything maxed at decent fps so I can't see the reason to spend what ever the 680 will cost for an unnecessary FPS boost unless for some reason you like seeing a higher number.

 

To each their own, but its not entirely about a higher FPS.  I enjoy running my games at their peak performance with all the bells and whistles {including masses of mods ~ ex. Skyrim} running and that takes quite a bit of additional power.  All the while keeping a more than decent FPS.  

 

I'm keeping my PC updated with the latest tech so I don't have such a huge difference to pay when the best of the best GPUs launch later this year.  The 580 that I currently own has had a price drop recently, and should I wait until later this fall, it may drop again and not be worth as much.  Thus selling the 580 now while I can still get about $300-$350 for it is nominal.  Whereas later on I may only get $200-$250.

 

The GTX 680 is only $500, so I'm really only paying about $200 for it.  Considering the benchmarks being released as I type, this 680 is killing the 580 in just about everything, so its very well worth it, at least to me!

 

Well as I said, I run everything maxed out as it is with mods etc but I usually don't care about the FPS as long as its smooth :)

I can understand going for it now if you plan on selling your current GPU for it though. 

  Zekiah

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3/22/12 9:27:23 AM#54

Ok so, by looking at the review it seems it's still best to go with AMD. It's closer but AMD still pulls ahead.

Hmm, it's going to be months before they bring out more of the series and there's no date for a dual. Frustrating.

 

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  Khrymson

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OP  3/22/12 9:39:41 AM#55
Originally posted by Zekiah

Ok so, by looking at the review it seems it's still best to go with AMD. It's closer but AMD still pulls ahead.

Hmm, it's going to be months before they bring out more of the series and there's no date for a dual. Frustrating.

 

Where are you seeing this at?

 

In damn near every benchmark, the 680 is well ahead of the 7970, and nearly the same performance of the 6990 and GTX 590.  In the Crysis:Warhead benchmark the 7970 is surely winning but thats about it.  Plus there is a $50 price difference now, nVidia being cheaper.

  Kabaal

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3/22/12 9:44:33 AM#56
Originally posted by Zekiah

Ok so, by looking at the review it seems it's still best to go with AMD. It's closer but AMD still pulls ahead.

Hmm, it's going to be months before they bring out more of the series and there's no date for a dual. Frustrating.

 

If you look at the various reviews around the net the general consensus seems to be that they are both brilliant cards and perform practically identical at higher resolutions and with overclocking. At this point it mostly just comes down to which brand you prefer.

A couple of things that stood out in the reviews are that physx titles aren't seeing any benefit from choosing one card or the other which you'd expect nvidia to be in the lead, and their new TXAA isn't even supported in any games (yet), it's really just a replacement for FXAA that never really got used by devs much and was more by modders.

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OP  3/22/12 9:51:51 AM#57

 

AnandTech ~ nVidia GeForce GTX 680 Review: Retaking the Performance Crown

 

Almost everything I read and saw here, shows the 680 performing quite a bit better, but anyway, as I said at the very beginning of this thread, I don't really care about AMD, but when most the reviews are proving the GTX 680 is faster, cooler and quieter ~ as well as cheaper.  I don't see how anyone can say AMD is still better, at this point.

 

It ultimately all comes down to preference as I tried to explain earlier...

 

 

  revy66

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3/22/12 9:58:09 AM#58
Originally posted by Zekiah

Ok so, by looking at the review it seems it's still best to go with AMD. It's closer but AMD still pulls ahead.

Hmm, it's going to be months before they bring out more of the series and there's no date for a dual. Frustrating.

 

Hmm, not sure about that..all the benchmarks I've seen so far pull Nvidia ahead.

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3/22/12 9:59:36 AM#59
Originally posted by Khrymson
Originally posted by Zekiah

Ok so, by looking at the review it seems it's still best to go with AMD. It's closer but AMD still pulls ahead.

Hmm, it's going to be months before they bring out more of the series and there's no date for a dual. Frustrating.

 

Where are you seeing this at?

 

In damn near every benchmark, the 680 is well ahead of the 7970, and nearly the same performance of the 6990 and GTX 590.  In the Crysis:Warhead benchmark the 7970 is surely winning but thats about it.  Plus there is a $50 price difference now, nVidia being cheaper.

I was looking at the 4GB, it looks like it does outshine the 7970 though. Pretty impressive. This is good news, I wonder how long before they bring out the rest of the series. Hmm...

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3/22/12 10:06:30 AM#60
GPU boost causing some stutter:

'Lots of trouble, when we look at the time spent on long-latency frames. What happened to the GTX 680? Well, look up at the plots above, and you'll see that, very early in our test run, there was a frame that took nearly 180 ms to produce—nearly a fifth of a second. As we played the game, we experienced this wait as a brief but total interruption in gameplay. That stutter, plus a few other shorter ones, contributed to the 680's poor showing here. Turns out we ran into this problem with the GTX 680 in four of our five test runs, each time early in the run and each time lasting about 180 ms. Nvidia tells us the slowdown is the result of a problem with its GPU Boost mechanism that will be fixed in an upcoming driver update.'

 

http://techreport.com/articles.x/22653/9

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