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  kefkah

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3/21/12 7:17:00 PM#1

ArenaNet community manager, Rubi tried to clarify the cash shop issues tonight on Facebook.

Link

  Kyleran

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3/21/12 7:20:58 PM#2

"Second, take into account the gem/gold trading system. Everything that is in the store will basically be available for gold with this system – so it doesn’t really matter what is in the store, as it is also available for players who play and don’t want to spend additional money. Hope that helps! ~RB2"

So it really doesn't matter if the cash shop sells items of power.

Hey, he left the door open, not me.

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  User Deleted
3/21/12 7:21:52 PM#3

wow, i sense a backlash incoming from some folks.  "-so it doesnt really matter what is available in the store."

  Thorkune

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3/21/12 7:23:17 PM#4

I wouldn't miss this for the world...

  darkehawke

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3/21/12 7:23:47 PM#5

But most people will still go with what they think they know rather then read the facts for themselves.

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  User Deleted
3/21/12 7:26:25 PM#6

uh lol. The forum will explode at any moment I am pretty sure. But really? All those cute vanity type clothes you could only get in GW1 via the shop will be available in game also? Cool unless I must sell my soul grinding gold for an evening dress in which case not cool.

Everything in the shop is available in game isn't equal to everything in the game is available in the store. Before people blow up too badly.

  Bad.dog

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3/21/12 7:26:26 PM#7

and how is this a bad thing?

  Magnetia

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3/21/12 7:26:44 PM#8

I'm going with Mike o Briens comments that they will be testing the cash shop very carefully in the coming betas.

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  Master_M2K

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3/21/12 7:27:37 PM#9
Originally posted by Kyleran

"Second, take into account the gem/gold trading system. Everything that is in the store will basically be available for gold with this system – so it doesn’t really matter what is in the store, as it is also available for players who play and don’t want to spend additional money. Hope that helps! ~RB2"

So it really doesn't matter if the cash shop sells items of power.

Hey, he left the door open, not me.

*sigh* They should have left this alone until they could show some of the items in the cash shop. Now people will jump on this and do exactly what you said Kyleran. I guess Rubi is new to this whole PR thing.

  QSatu

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3/21/12 7:30:03 PM#10
Originally posted by brody71

wow, i sense a backlash incoming from some folks.  "-so it doesnt really matter what is available in the store."

It's impressive how dumb community managers can be. It's so easy to twist those words to read them like: we will sell sword of pwnage +100 it's not even funny. Really you would expect something more from ppl who manage the community >.>

  User Deleted
3/21/12 7:31:45 PM#11
rOriginally posted by QSatu
Originally posted by brody71

wow, i sense a backlash incoming from some folks.  "-so it doesnt really matter what is available in the store."

It's impressive how dumb community managers can be. It's so easy to twist those words to read them like: we will sell sword of pwnage +100 it's not even funny. Really you would expect something more from ppl who manage the community >.>

really though it just adds to the hype they are building for launch. 

  QSatu

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3/21/12 7:34:15 PM#12
Originally posted by brody71
rOriginally posted by QSatu
Originally posted by brody71

wow, i sense a backlash incoming from some folks.  "-so it doesnt really matter what is available in the store."

It's impressive how dumb community managers can be. It's so easy to twist those words to read them like: we will sell sword of pwnage +100 it's not even funny. Really you would expect something more from ppl who manage the community >.>

really though it just adds to the hype they are building for launch. 

They can easilly burn. Oh it will be glorious on official forums. ANet really don't know how bad it will be. I already feel pity for mods.

  austriacus

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3/21/12 7:35:55 PM#13

This is what happens when you hire a fangirl to work for the community.

Everyone knows fangirls screw up everything.

  Leethe

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Posts: 869

3/21/12 7:37:35 PM#14

I never ceased to be amazed by game studios' lack of wisdom in announcing features like this. Do they think this is the first time a game has announced a cash shop? You never, never ever leave any ambiguity or doubt in your fans minds when busting out something like this. No clarifivcation should have been necessary as full details should have been available down to the last gold peice. Did they not run this past some of their gamer mates and think "yeah some folks may take issue with the way this sounds so we better hit it up with full reassurances and details".

Perhaps they thought that since TERA and EVE (will)have similar systems that this would go right under the radar.

Which makes no sense as as in those games you will be able to accumulate enough secondary currency to effectively play for free, thereby saving you money.

Which brings me to:

GW2 will have no sub so folks will have no issue with it. Hey, it was in the other game, wasn't it?

Yes it was but that was a different game. It was online co-op. GW2 will be an MMO and we as players know that MMOs cost money to run. It follows that Anet may pursue the GW2 cash shop with a bit more zeal than they did in GW1.

I have no stance personally as it's their game and they need dollars but it's just a shame to loose all the good momentum Anet had with their PR. They have enjoyed a somewhat, let's say, elevated position since the ToR launch. You would think they would have handled this better.

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

Hope is not a stategy.
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  Lucioon

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3/21/12 7:39:00 PM#15

Before anyone posts, they really should read the full thread on the explanation of the Cash Shop and Gems

I feel this is a great system, regardless of whether or not there is a +10 Might potion for 5 minutes for 5 gems or 50 gold, I can either pay it up front, or play the game for a few hours and earn it.

And since all Armor and Weapons are equal in strength, You can spent 100 dollars getting them and play for 1 hour, I can play 5 hours and buy the exact same items. If you play 5 hours and still pay that 100 dollars, good for you, you just got the same exact item that I just got without spending 100 dollars. And in structure PVP only the skillful survived regardless of how much you spend.

 

And they also have Glory as PVP currency , Karma as currency and those items you won't be able to buy with real Money, only participation in the game earns you those.

So to all those that is against it without any justification, just go and educate yourself before you make a fool of yourself.

http://www.thetyrianorder.com/home/m/2850070/article/638922

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  feena750

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3/21/12 7:39:12 PM#16

Everyone who reads that already knows that Arenanet said they won't sell items that give an advantage like the uber sword of pwnage.  The only people who will blow it out of proportion are those who dislike cash shops altogether and want to yell about it while fully knowing what was meant by the statement.

  Leethe

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Joined: 3/12/09
Posts: 869

3/21/12 7:43:17 PM#17
Originally posted by feena750

Everyone who reads that already knows that Arenanet said they won't sell items that give an advantage like the uber sword of pwnage.  The only people who will blow it out of proportion are those who dislike cash shops altogether and want to yell about it while fully knowing what was meant by the statement.

Many wil interpret this as meaning that as long as the sword of pwnage was available for gold then it would be OK to be in the shop. It's a minefield basically.

There is NO miracle patch.

95% of what you see in beta won't change by launch.

Hope is not a stategy.
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  User Deleted
3/21/12 7:45:44 PM#18
Originally posted by Leethe

I never ceased to be amazed by game studios' lack of wisdom in announcing features like this. Do they think this is the first time a game has announced a cash shop? You never, never ever leave any ambiguity or doubt in your fans minds when busting out something like this. No clarifivcation should have been necessary as full details should have been available down to the last gold peice. Did they not run this past some of their gamer mates and think "yeah some folks may take issue with the way this sounds so we better hit it up with full reassurances and details".

Perhaps they thought that since TERA and EVE (will)have similar systems that this would go right under the radar.

Which makes no sense as as in those games you will be able to accumulate enough secondary currency to effectively play for free, thereby saving you money.

Which brings me to:

GW2 will have no sub so folks will have no issue with it. Hey, it was in the other game, wasn't it?

Yes it was but that was a different game. It was online co-op. GW2 will be an MMO and we as players know that MMOs cost money to run. It follows that Anet may pursue the GW2 cash shop with a bit more zeal than they did in GW1.

I have no stance personally as it's their game and they need dollars but it's just a shame to loose all the good momentum Anet had with their PR. They have enjoyed a somewhat, let's say, elevated position since the ToR launch. You would think they would have handled this better.

i dont think it's coincidence that this comes out the week prior to the beta nda lift.  the new press articles and videos will quickly move this topic down the list in disscussion forums.

  Lucioon

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3/21/12 7:47:49 PM#19
Originally posted by feena750

Everyone who reads that already knows that Arenanet said they won't sell items that give an advantage like the uber sword of pwnage.  The only people who will blow it out of proportion are those who dislike cash shops altogether and want to yell about it while fully knowing what was meant by the statement.

To all those that is afraid of +100 pwnage, you do understand that the cash shop only has

Flaming skin for that +100 pwnage you can buy anywhere else or this Super looking cool awesome skin for that +100 pwnage sword you have from that other merchant over there.

All items are equal in strength , already stated multiple times, confirmed by developers multiple times, every lvl 80 gear is the same in power, but if you want to pay $50 to look different than your friendly neighborhood Elementalist you can, but you will not be able to buy Armor or Weapons that is more powerful than everyone else.

 

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  Madimorga

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3/21/12 7:49:38 PM#20
Originally posted by Kyleran

"Second, take into account the gem/gold trading system. Everything that is in the store will basically be available for gold with this system – so it doesn’t really matter what is in the store, as it is also available for players who play and don’t want to spend additional money. Hope that helps! ~RB2"

So it really doesn't matter if the cash shop sells items of power.

Hey, he left the door open, not me.

I'm mostly out of ire on this issue, so I'm just going to say that it does matter.  It really does. 

 

(Obviously I'm directing that at the quote, not you, Kyleran!)

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