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3/20/12 4:56:00 PM#401
I think it is simple. Don't sell tradeable items and accomplishments in the cash store. Giving ppl with a fat wallet access to heaps of ingame currency at a click of a button is a bad call imo. It devalues any with gold purchasable item from a gameplay perspective. 'Oh, I need to buy this item from this npc/player. Sec, I have to turn on the moneyprinting press' *goes to cash shop* Also, keep in mind that they create an auction hall system where you can post what you are looking for. This will create a constant supply of gold from people who place ads to buy gems with ingame gold. Instant gold for gembuyers. The only difference with 3rd party goldsellers is that they now will be legitemate players that don't spam ads in chat or email, but place them neatly in the auction hall system. System is severly flawed imo. I used to admire Mike O'Brien, but I think that this particular blog is a poor piece of marketing bs. |
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3/20/12 4:56:23 PM#402
Originally posted by Madimorga More power to you then, others will form guilds and do it for free |
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3/20/12 4:56:30 PM#403
haha 10 000 or P2W. 1000 till tomorow, nice start :D |
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3/20/12 4:59:15 PM#404
I like RVR Daoc is old and dying WAR got destroyed by biowares 1.4 patch TSW has tunrend into a carebears game Planetside 2 also has a cash shop Dominus is west coast servers only. so GW2 is the only choice for now. What will I do? I will put to one side the money I would normally spend on a sub, and if I really "need" to buy things, I will use that. GW2 looks way better than most sub games anyway. What I would love ArenaNet to consider though, is an option to sub if we want to. If I could pay a standard monthly sub and get 8 character slots, a small collection of gems once a month and the DLC for free, I would gladly pay it for the convenience of not having to mess about with the cash shop and manage my cash. |
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3/20/12 5:00:33 PM#405
Originally posted by aionix And can you gurantee that none of these coordinated hardcore guilds would be intrested in having a donor? Maybe a cpl of these guilds with someone with deep enough pockets. What about a kind of corporate sponsor ship if the e-sport aspect picks up. Last I knew Europeans raiding guilds in wow had corporate sponsors, except now they can turn the money into ingame currency and get a potential chokehold on the best talent, by offering resources few can compete with. |
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3/20/12 5:03:01 PM#406
Originally posted by whisperwynd In AoC I remember some guilds used mercenaries to fight for them. Same concept, only now someone who really is that cheesy can shortcut all the effort involved in farming up the currency and just buy diamonds, sell them for gold (once the 'economy' matures enough) and presto, instant mercs.
It's actually not something I would ever do. I put it that way to prove a point, and I'll bet it will happen from time to time. WvWvW will be taken seriously as a point of pride for guilds who can say we win for our server, we're the best. If they need to pay gold to keep coverage during off peak hours, some will do it, silly as that may sound.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. ~Albert Einstein |
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3/20/12 5:03:24 PM#407
I'm not very happy about this. I know that the items that can be bought will not give a person a power advantage but in-game vanity sells and dictates prices. Look at GW1, there was no power difference between high price items (like torm weapons or a BDS) and other in-game weapons but there was a huge price difference. The ability to buy gems which can be used to buy gold will have a huge impact on the in-game economy even without a "power" advantage gained from paying real money. |
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whisperwynd
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Joined: 2/22/06
Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the priviledge to do so as well. |
3/20/12 5:09:22 PM#408
Originally posted by Madimorga The only difference I see here is that what would otherwise be given to third-party gold-farming companies is given to Anet instead. No useless ppl roaming around not really participating in the game itself. So for those willing to spend RL cash, go for it. I can always take advantage of the guilds doing it since they can't dictate or monopolize a WvW session deciding on who gets in or not. |
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3/20/12 5:10:26 PM#409
Originally posted by mazut 409 |
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3/20/12 5:11:06 PM#410
People want to play a b2p that magically can sustain itself with magic money Just be glad its not p2w And the drama is good "Some of the less objective people tend to be close-minded though and basically disregard any possible shortcomings that gw2 could have." |
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3/20/12 5:13:00 PM#411
Originally posted by someforumguy Even if this happen you still won't be able to get everything or anything you want in-game. It's common sense unless you think gold is the only currency in this game. Also please for God sake tell us what are gems worth as they only get you what's in cash shop. Please tell us what is sold in the cash shop that's a need, and that's even attainable in game since it will be. Only want that's close to a need is extra character slot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns-IIn-DG-c Try to argue this please. Oh also if you quote me and it's to argue my point, if I don't respond it means I haven't been corrected by you and/or I haven't seen it. Remember I don't mind admitting I am in the wrong. Take care :D |
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3/20/12 5:14:03 PM#412
Originally posted by evicton I have to say, I have never failed so hard at rabble rousing over an issue in my life. You guys were supposed to be horrified at the concept to the point of breaking out the torches and pitchforks, instead I see you planning the merc company picnic and complementary t-shirts!
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. ~Albert Einstein |
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3/20/12 5:15:42 PM#413
Originally posted by Madimorga And your fear is that the mercenary guilds giving coverage would require the gold to come from real money and not gold from mobs and in game sources? You are really reaching for justification here because deals are made all the time. Guilds could pass on claiming keeps and towers so that other guilds get the glory of having their name on the map . Are they mercenaries because that happened a lot in DAOC. It would be far easier for those guilds to just recruit the late night players into their guilds. Or do you propose banning offering incentives and perks for joining guilds as being mercenary? There are so many holes in your line of reasoning... But that isnt the core of the problem is it. Just come out and say it. your preferences in how to play the game trumps other people's in how you want them to play the game. |
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3/20/12 5:16:26 PM#414
Originally posted by Madimorga Or they can kick out some gems/gold to bolster there ranks. Maybe buy a structered pvp team, sure you can argue that people could pay people to pay before but theres a difference between sending someone a check and giving someone some gold. In most games like wow gold is useless, but here gold can buy gems, which you can use to buy items that would normally cost real life money. |
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3/20/12 5:17:50 PM#415
I don't mind the idea of a guild working (or rather playing!) hard in game to hire mercs. I do mind the idea of a guild pooling cold hard real life cash to do it. I understand if some don't see the difference.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. ~Albert Einstein |
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3/20/12 5:17:52 PM#416
Originally posted by RizelStar I positive that the cash shop will offer items that are not obtainable in the game. I'm positive that the game will have rare drops. Whether they are for vanity purpose is besides the point (at least for me). For me purchasing gold with real cash, no matter who facilitates it, is purchasing progress. In principle 1000gold is no difference from a certain percentage progress towards an ingame title. You need to obtain a set amount to buy ingame items/services. So buying alternative currency with real cash == buying progress with real cash. In my book that defeats the purpose of the game and creates a slippery slope towards some cheap form of commodity trading. |
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3/20/12 5:20:10 PM#417
Well this is just one mor reason for me to stick with SWTOR. Bioware is clearly a supperior game company and they make better games.
At least they don't pull any of this shady microtransaction stuff. You pay for the game and your sub and you get access to their games. No strings attached and no shady business. You just lost a potential customer Arenanet. I'll stick with Bioware- an honest company- thank you very much. |
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Corehaven
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Joined: 7/27/11
I swear by my pretty floral bonnet, I will end you. |
3/20/12 5:21:37 PM#418
Im a little lost here. I knew this game was going to have cosmetic and service microtransactions since it was first announced. Why is everyone acting as though they didn't know this? Im extremely confused.
As long as they are the way they've been described, I have absolutely no problem with it. Never have. |
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3/20/12 5:22:00 PM#419
Originally posted by Madimorga Complementary t-shirts will be give an item from the cash shop, Merc Company will provide you with the gold, it is up to you to convert said gold into gems and purchase the item yourself. |
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3/20/12 5:22:15 PM#420
Originally posted by elliottalb I wouldn't jump the gun just yet. It would not surprise me to see Bioware implement some form of microtransaction system |
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