Originally posted by MARTYB2K

I'm guessing most of the replies so far are from either lazy Jobless parasites, students who can't face the real world so have done a pointless degree to keep them supported for the next 5 years, or Jeremey Kyle watchers. I'd happily pay £9 a month to play this game.

I'm a real man and am replying from work. I support my family.

Wow you sound like a whiner to me. im a audio engineer, i either get to sleep in or spend 12-14 hours at work and not get paid for it unless the album is successful. i dont work every day and usually i get to sleep in (musicians aren't usually early raisers) so does this make me a parasite, if so your an idiot. you sound like a bitter old man who realized that everyone else around you is more happy than you. i take it you hate this, the whole happiness thing.

don't get me wrong im willing to pay a sub so long as the game is worth it. WoW wasn't, TOR wasn't. Subscriptions do absolutly nothing to keep the kids out of games, their parents just pay of them to play. wanna know what keeps kids out of games, Difficulty. it the game is somewhat challenging then kids wont play. Sadly most sub games are dumbed down to the point where a toddler could be successful.

"jobless parasites" as you put it are perfectly fine gaming so long they aren't doushes. being a doushe is universal, as you have been demonstrating. you can be both a doushe and have a job.

no offence.

C'mon guys, this has got to be a troll. 

Otherwise I just lost a wee bit more faith in humanity.

I dont see how "No Sub" can be a bad thing. In one way your fear of every kind of gamer flocking to this game is true, but I don think is going to happen. Sure, in the beginning there are going to be big rush over GW2, but after some time pass by the game will have more profil players.This is going to happen mostly because it will not be to everybodys expectation and liking.

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

I'm guessing most of the replies so far are from either lazy Jobless parasites, students who can't face the real world so have done a pointless degree to keep them supported for the next 5 years, or Jeremey Kyle watchers. I'd happily pay £9 a month to play this game.

I'm a real man and am replying from work. I support my family.

Well, If you worked for me you'd get a first warning for not working when I'm paying you.

Better get back to work before someone see's you.

See, the GW community cares about you; We don't want your missus kicking you out for getting sacked. :D

Although I deplore the OP's text I can sympathize with his feelings. However, it is wrong to think that the explosion of immaturity in MMO communities is due to kids and gold farmers. There are a lot of older rectums out there as well. Heck I know that some of my contemporaries (40+ in age) are elitist snobs in MMO games - that is why I don't play with them. Like the OP I thought that a sub would prevent immature players from playing a game but as many posters have indicated WOW has one of the worst MMO communities and I would put SWTOR very near the same category.

Originally posted by DShepley60

Really? Another pointless thread?

 

ArenaNet shows that their B2P is far superior to P2P and F2P.  Alot of kids huh? Less kids then F2P since they have to buy the box.  Regardless WoW has the worst gaming community and from how GW is laid out and the awesome community should tell you enough. But regardless, good for you that you can work to P2P like most of us do, but having kids in a game you act like is a bad thing yet you got to get off your high horse and realize that your in your mid 30s and the next gen gamers have to start somewhere.

 

Tell ya, this community just gets worse and worse with idiots like this. You obviously are just a troll or just dont know how to research and look into things before trolling, so I shall end it right here since I made my point clear.

+10

Kids are evrywhere and in any mmo's these days.

But to beat WoW's retarded aggresive community full of whiney kids one has to go real real deep.

And most will stay there on the other side i hope.

I plan to join one of the older MMO community's as soon as the game launches and stay away from those plagued kids whenever posible.

Now not all kids are like that, alot of adults are acting like dicks to, i can be a dick sometimes, but i will never ever talk down to another player making a mistake or trying something for the 1st time and burn his morale down to the point of quiting.

Something that is done each minute in WoW's random dungeons/raids or battlegrounds.

I hope Anet makes a ignore list so big it will be as big as a black hole :)

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

Hello all,

I actually bother to get out of bed and goto work so a subscription is nothing. I don't even give it a second though, but it worries me that no subscription could mean that GW2 has loads of Kids, Gold Farmers, or Jobless Chavs. I don't want many of either of these in my games.

Perhaps you should have your 8$ cup of coffee before you post. As was pointed out in the first few replies, sub type doesn't affect community as much as would be believed. Game popularity affects the community more than cost.

I used to think paying a sub made for a better community, but fact is just about any fool can afford 15.00 a month and from what I've experienced recently many fools do sub to MMO's.

So no, sub fees won't improve a community, it really comes down to whether or not the game mechanics encourage better player behavior, and I haven't see a title like that in many years.

GW2 community won't be any better or worse than the current titles out there, you'll have to chose your friends wisely and ignore those folks who annoy you.

Good news is ANET is supposedly going to design the game so you can't annoy people even in PVE activities, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue.

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

 

I'm a real man and am replying from work. I support my family.

Go home and be a family man!

I Can't be the only one who heard this in their head when he said that... right?

This thread needs more replies.  Don't let the trolls go hungry!

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

Originally posted by atuerstar

Thank you OP for tirelessly spending most of your life working long hours to make me rich so I can wake up whenever I want and have access to all the best things in life, while spending whatever hours I choose to waste gaming.

 

 

I'm a real man. Not a leech.

Nah, you created an account solely for the purpose of trolling. Real men don't hide behind fake accounts to get their jollies at the expense of others.

That being said, the subscription market, your P2P games, are watching GW2 with a worried eye. If this really catches on, if people realize they can unsub from WoW, SWTOR etc. and have an amazing MMO waiting for them for only the cost of the box they know their cash-cow will be drying up in the near future. Preemptive shots across the bow are the first ripples from the waves of panic those sub-based games will be projecting forth.

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

Hello all,

I actually bother to get out of bed and goto work so a subscription is nothing. I don't even give it a second though, but it worries me that no subscription could mean that GW2 has loads of Kids, Gold Farmers, or Jobless Chavs. I don't want many of either of these in my games.

Really you had to go there with this pointless drivvle? GW1 was F2P and there were not many kiddies in the game and there will always be kids in games.

Gold farmers - it depends on how popular the game is and how difficult it is to get gold. Also the important thing is security in the game.

The jobless can't afford to pay the money to buy a game so this is non-sensical.

Get over yourself - I don't want too many shills like you in the game.

Guy playing videogames worries about kids playing it too

Is it me or is this a very limited, kidophobic, childish and extremely arrogant behavior?(the "I work-I rich-I can afford P2P" wtf? does it make you proud of yourself? )...most of the kids you worry about are probably more tolerant and nicer to meet ingame than you

(I'm a university student - I have no need to defend kids, I just want you to think about your own sick behavism)

As the guy above me said, get over yourself for real

The straws!

I CANNOT GRASP AT THEM!

I'm happy and i do everything for myself. Look at yourselves.

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

 

 So many freeloaders around today.

Like people who spend their time at work posting on MMO forums?

Originally posted by MARTYB2K

Oh yeah and most universtity students are just lazy jobless people in denial, that fool themselves into thinking they are doing something worthwhile.

Let me guess, you're doing "real man's work", like being a car mechanic or a plumber or something.

Originally posted by DShepley60

Really? Another pointless thread?

 

ArenaNet shows that their B2P is far superior to P2P and F2P.  Alot of kids huh? Less kids then F2P since they have to buy the box.  Regardless WoW has the worst gaming community and from how GW is laid out and the awesome community should tell you enough. But regardless, good for you that you can work to P2P like most of us do, but having kids in a game you act like is a bad thing yet you got to get off your high horse and realize that your in your mid 30s and the next gen gamers have to start somewhere.

 

Tell ya, this community just gets worse and worse with idiots like this. You obviously are just a troll or just dont know how to research and look into things before trolling, so I shall end it right here since I made my point clear.

Boy totally wrong and negative. The guy has a legitimate point. He is not trolling...trolling is negative so give him a break.

I agree, that kids can degrade the quality of the gaming community. 

Originally posted by Amjoco

I agree, that kids can degrade the quality of the gaming community. 

Adults can degrade the quality of gaming too.

Asshattery knows no age.