I just need that TERA have a political system, where gives some meaning to pvp, to make this game my new home.

If i like the political system, i dont care about any other games for awhile.

I'm in. 

Looking forward to friday 12 noon lots actually. 

I missed the early days of MMOs.  My first experience was less than 10 hours of Asherons Call at a cousins house long ago.  Since then only Phantasy Star gave me a really good experience.  I even missed vanilla WoWs experience and only started right before WotLK on BC, which was decent.

Since SWTOR didn't really capture the early days, I'm looking forward to this game and GW2 launches.  I actually have time to enjoy some MMO launches.  I think TERA and GW2 are good choices after my first dispointment of a laucnh akin to Star Wars.  Hehe.  It could have been Star Wars, yet the laughter I've gotten from paradies about that game (TORtanic) was worth being apart of the game.

I believe it'll stabilize with 100-150k subs after 3 months. It is a niche game and their marketing department is horrible, but it has gotten the attention of a good number of pvp guilds. The combat system has me hooked, TERA has taken raised the bar for amount  twitch skill required in an mmo game, and I don't think I could ever play a tab targeting mmo again. Ironically, the same combat system which has many people hooked will deter a lot of ppl from the game because it's "hard" or "different."

If BHS can ramp up the pvp experience in the game, I'll be subbing for years to come. 

Drop everything, maplestory 2 is going in to development!!! Drop everything and wait 3-5years+ for it to come out!!

Ok joke over =X now on topic, it will be niche personally i think its a good thing at least that mean the game is more tailor made to toward the player than toward so many players that they can do nothing but focus on the casual player which is usally the largest group least effected by the game.

Originally posted by meeee

I believe it'll stabilize with 100-150k subs after 3 months. It is a niche game and their marketing department is horrible, but it has gotten the attention of a good number of pvp guilds. The combat system has me hooked, TERA has taken raised the bar for amount  twitch skill required in an mmo game, and I don't think I could ever play a tab targeting mmo again. Ironically, the same combat system which has many people hooked will deter a lot of ppl from the game because it's "hard" or "different."

If BHS can ramp up the pvp experience in the game, I'll be subbing for years to come. 

I agree but one thing i don't like is the WoW like graphics just better but once i get to try out the combat and if it is great like i hope it is i might e a long time subber to but we will see. For subs tho don't forget the asian market but i agree in america might settle at that number you said. Also wondering how there servers will be like since there are none in the usa.

Originally posted by Yellowbeardd

Originally posted by meeee

I believe it'll stabilize with 100-150k subs after 3 months. It is a niche game and their marketing department is horrible, but it has gotten the attention of a good number of pvp guilds. The combat system has me hooked, TERA has taken raised the bar for amount  twitch skill required in an mmo game, and I don't think I could ever play a tab targeting mmo again. Ironically, the same combat system which has many people hooked will deter a lot of ppl from the game because it's "hard" or "different."

If BHS can ramp up the pvp experience in the game, I'll be subbing for years to come. 

I agree but one thing i don't like is the WoW like graphics just better but once i get to try out the combat and if it is great like i hope it is i might e a long time subber to but we will see. For subs tho don't forget the asian market but i agree in america might settle at that number you said. Also wondering how there servers will be like since there are none in the usa.

WoW like graphics O.O.... i might suggest seeing a eye doctor because its like the polar oppoiste in term of art style and graphics o.o WoW is extremely westernized cartoon/comic while Tera is completely Asian anime style o.o Lot of reason Tera is a niche because its graphic/art differs so greatly from western game like WoW/Rift/SWTOR.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Yellowbeardd

Originally posted by meeee

I believe it'll stabilize with 100-150k subs after 3 months. It is a niche game and their marketing department is horrible, but it has gotten the attention of a good number of pvp guilds. The combat system has me hooked, TERA has taken raised the bar for amount  twitch skill required in an mmo game, and I don't think I could ever play a tab targeting mmo again. Ironically, the same combat system which has many people hooked will deter a lot of ppl from the game because it's "hard" or "different."

If BHS can ramp up the pvp experience in the game, I'll be subbing for years to come. 

I agree but one thing i don't like is the WoW like graphics just better but once i get to try out the combat and if it is great like i hope it is i might e a long time subber to but we will see. For subs tho don't forget the asian market but i agree in america might settle at that number you said. Also wondering how there servers will be like since there are none in the usa.

WoW like graphics O.O.... i might suggest seeing a eye doctor because its like the polar oppoiste in term of art style and graphics o.o WoW is extremely westernized cartoon/comic while Tera is completely Asian anime style o.o Lot of reason Tera is a niche because its graphic/art differs so greatly from western game like WoW/Rift/SWTOR.

well your eye doctor gave you the wrong glasses then also since i can show you and name you over 10 000 reasons why it's the same it's just a higher quality that is all. And no you i won't bother naming out the crap i don't got hours to make you look dumb sorry.

Originally posted by Yellowbeardd

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Yellowbeardd

Originally posted by meeee

I believe it'll stabilize with 100-150k subs after 3 months. It is a niche game and their marketing department is horrible, but it has gotten the attention of a good number of pvp guilds. The combat system has me hooked, TERA has taken raised the bar for amount  twitch skill required in an mmo game, and I don't think I could ever play a tab targeting mmo again. Ironically, the same combat system which has many people hooked will deter a lot of ppl from the game because it's "hard" or "different."

If BHS can ramp up the pvp experience in the game, I'll be subbing for years to come. 

I agree but one thing i don't like is the WoW like graphics just better but once i get to try out the combat and if it is great like i hope it is i might e a long time subber to but we will see. For subs tho don't forget the asian market but i agree in america might settle at that number you said. Also wondering how there servers will be like since there are none in the usa.

WoW like graphics O.O.... i might suggest seeing a eye doctor because its like the polar oppoiste in term of art style and graphics o.o WoW is extremely westernized cartoon/comic while Tera is completely Asian anime style o.o Lot of reason Tera is a niche because its graphic/art differs so greatly from western game like WoW/Rift/SWTOR.

well your eye doctor gave you the wrong glasses then also since i can show you and name you over 10 000 reasons why it's the same it's just a higher quality that is all. And no you i won't bother naming out the crap i don't got hours to make you look dumb sorry.

I would love to know coz i got an endless line of people who said they won't play this game because its too Asian and they would if it was more like WoW or Rift so please humor me and tell me your 10,000 reasons. This is the first time i ever see some one make this statment.

Originally posted by grapevine

Originally posted by Deron_Barak
It could be genuine confusion, lack of experience with either F2P games or TERA, inability to see the overall quality of a game, prejudice because it's Korean or just simply trolling.

Aika, Dragon Nest, Vindictus are all made F2P. I'm sure they are fun but anyone who has played any AAA MMO should be able to see the deficient areas that make these games F2P. If not they should be charging a sub since there are people out there willing to pay it :)

 

I never stated it didn't have quality.  In fact I believe it does.   It is however extermely generic and lacks depth, when compared to a (true) AAA product.

 

As for the beta testing, it was the same with Aion.   Comments may be acknowledged on the fourms, but at the end of the day the focus is on simply translating it.   The new content that's been added would be, even if the Western version didn't exist.  It was being developed and tested for the Korean version.  After all, this MMO has been released (in Korea) for quite some time.

 

Also don't confuse sub-par F2P games, with detailed one.   For example RoM has way more complexity and depth than TERA.  Is it (RoM) as enjoyable?  Well that's another matter, which only personal preference can answer.

 

Anyone who seriously thinks TERA will stand up against mainstream MMOs and especially with the pending releases, are unfortunately deluding themselves.  That doesn't mean people can't enjoy it.  It just means its going to be niche.  It may even sell well (initially).

there is nothing wrong with niche games,  look at Eve online.  best example of a niche game,  that does better than most so called mainstream MMO.

all of the so called mainstream MMO coming up,   offer very little as far innovation goes.  they are simply been overwhyped day by day constantly by people who will feel very but very dissapointed at the end.

Tera is more than capable of attracting  all sort of players, ( for instance i hate Anime myself,)  but  i love Tera, i consider myself a veteran MMO player , since i've been playing MMO since Eq1 .  i assure you there are lots of other people who feel the same.

all of the big so called mainstream MMO started out with too many promises,  they all sounded great at first, they all were to become the next holy grail of the mmo genre, and they all turned to a massive let down.

beware of setting your expectations too high with the so called mainstream MMO.  or you risk turking yourself into a money milking cow.

Originally posted by Yellowbeardd

Originally posted by meeee

I believe it'll stabilize with 100-150k subs after 3 months. It is a niche game and their marketing department is horrible, but it has gotten the attention of a good number of pvp guilds. The combat system has me hooked, TERA has taken raised the bar for amount  twitch skill required in an mmo game, and I don't think I could ever play a tab targeting mmo again. Ironically, the same combat system which has many people hooked will deter a lot of ppl from the game because it's "hard" or "different."

If BHS can ramp up the pvp experience in the game, I'll be subbing for years to come. 

I agree but one thing i don't like is the WoW like graphics just better but once i get to try out the combat and if it is great like i hope it is i might e a long time subber to but we will see. For subs tho don't forget the asian market but i agree in america might settle at that number you said. Also wondering how there servers will be like since there are none in the usa.

Wut?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF8aNEWsm1w&hd=1

The NA TERA servers are located in Chicago. http://tera-answers.enmasse.com/posts/838a3d101b

Originally posted by Yellowbeardd

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well your eye doctor gave you the wrong glasses then also since i can show you and name you over 10 000 reasons why it's the same it's just a higher quality that is all. And no you i won't bother naming out the crap i don't got hours to make you look dumb sorry.

Here's an example of how people can be unreasonable. How can the graphics be "the same" and "higher quality" both at the same time?

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Drop everything, maplestory 2 is going in to development!!! Drop everything and wait 3-5years+ for it to come out!!

 

Ok joke over =X now on topic, it will be niche personally i think its a good thing at least that mean the game is more tailor made to toward the player than toward so many players that they can do nothing but focus on the casual player which is usally the largest group least effected by the game.

Mabinogi 2 is further in development and is suppose to be an open world action combat MMO. They claimed during really early development that it's suppose to be an open world Vindictus which I would rather have over TERA if they can pull it off.

Tera will be a niche game for sure.  The biggest problem Tera has is that you can't be a clicker and a keyboard turner and play the game.  So that eliminates about 90% of potential MMO gamers.   I see Tera selling very well, maybe in the range of around 400k copies, maybe more, and then settling out at around 100-200k subs in NA.  Which I think will be a success in the eyes of EME and BHS.  Don't need WoW numbers to make money in the MMO market.  Shit EQ was the hottest game of the time and spawned the MMO market as we know it.  EQ maxed out I think at about 600k worldwide. 

Like others have said, I can't play the tab target MMOs anymore at all.  I had to redownload Eve just so I can get my MMO fix until Tera comes out.

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Drop everything, maplestory 2 is going in to development!!! Drop everything and wait 3-5years+ for it to come out!!

 

Ok joke over =X now on topic, it will be niche personally i think its a good thing at least that mean the game is more tailor made to toward the player than toward so many players that they can do nothing but focus on the casual player which is usally the largest group least effected by the game.

Mabinogi 2 is further in development and is suppose to be an open world action combat MMO. They claimed during really early development that it's suppose to be an open world Vindictus which I would rather have over TERA if they can pull it off.

Hopefuly ranged class isn't broken overpowered like Mabinogi, although i think Mabinogi had the closest thing to action combat before DN and vindcitus. It was set to have action combat but excuted with targeting which ended up with the werid combat that is mabinogi lol. Man that game was werid. Hope Mabinogi 2 is good.

And idk how open world with vindictus would, with everyone doing those thing is asking for massive lag and extremely....werid pvp lol. I mean put in rooms ya but open world when you have tons of people that thing is going to turn crazy fast but looking forward to it.

Originally posted by brac777

Tera will be a niche game for sure.  The biggest problem Tera has is that you can't be a clicker and a keyboard turner and play the game.  So that eliminates about 90% of potential MMO gamers.   I see Tera selling very well, maybe in the range of around 400k copies, maybe more, and then settling out at around 100-200k subs in NA.  Which I think will be a success in the eyes of EME and BHS.  Don't need WoW numbers to make money in the MMO market.  Shit EQ was the hottest game of the time and spawned the MMO market as we know it.  EQ maxed out I think at about 600k worldwide. 

Like others have said, I can't play the tab target MMOs anymore at all.  I had to redownload Eve just so I can get my MMO fix until Tera comes out.

What kind of excuse is that? The idea that TERA wont do well cause it's an action style game when that's it's main draw to the game is probably the stupidest thing I've heard about this game. Even so, you're still wrong cause the camera doesn't move your character when you're attacking, so you have to turn with the keyboard unless you stop everytime you swing your weapon.

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Drop everything, maplestory 2 is going in to development!!! Drop everything and wait 3-5years+ for it to come out!!

 

Ok joke over =X now on topic, it will be niche personally i think its a good thing at least that mean the game is more tailor made to toward the player than toward so many players that they can do nothing but focus on the casual player which is usally the largest group least effected by the game.

Mabinogi 2 is further in development and is suppose to be an open world action combat MMO. They claimed during really early development that it's suppose to be an open world Vindictus which I would rather have over TERA if they can pull it off.

Hopefuly ranged class isn't broken overpowered like Mabinogi, although i think Mabinogi had the closest thing to action combat before DN and vindcitus. It was set to have action combat but excuted with targeting which ended up with the werid combat that is mabinogi lol. Man that game was werid. Hope Mabinogi 2 is good.

And idk how open world with vindictus would, with everyone doing those thing is asking for massive lag and extremely....werid pvp lol. I mean put in rooms ya but open world when you have tons of people that thing is going to turn crazy fast but looking forward to it.

I doubt there would be world PvP if they went that route. They would most likely do battlegrounds. Also, I doubt it would be seemless openworld for the sake of lag and such, either that or they are just not going to be very flashy type attacks.

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by brac777

Tera will be a niche game for sure.  The biggest problem Tera has is that you can't be a clicker and a keyboard turner and play the game.  So that eliminates about 90% of potential MMO gamers.   I see Tera selling very well, maybe in the range of around 400k copies, maybe more, and then settling out at around 100-200k subs in NA.  Which I think will be a success in the eyes of EME and BHS.  Don't need WoW numbers to make money in the MMO market.  Shit EQ was the hottest game of the time and spawned the MMO market as we know it.  EQ maxed out I think at about 600k worldwide. 

Like others have said, I can't play the tab target MMOs anymore at all.  I had to redownload Eve just so I can get my MMO fix until Tera comes out.

What kind of excuse is that? The idea that TERA wont do well cause it's an action style game when that's it's main draw to the game is probably the stupidest thing I've heard about this game. Even so, you're still wrong cause the camera doesn't move your character when you're attacking, so you have to turn with the keyboard unless you stop everytime you swing your weapon.

i'm starting to like you more lately!p     i like your new attitude, new approach toward this game .

honestly...yes. It will have to put up with a bunch of haters because its an asian mmo, and its attack and dodge mechanics are not that of the normal run of thill MMOs many are used to.

p.s. people can try and call me on that asian mmo thing but if anyone even kept track on this game its already been brought up a lot times about how this game will fail because its another asian grindfest just based on where the game is originating from.

edit: i do think the game would be a bigger success if they lifted the region bans that currently disallow players living in certain countries to play.

Originally posted by Sector13

Originally posted by rexzshadow

Hopefuly ranged class isn't broken overpowered like Mabinogi, although i think Mabinogi had the closest thing to action combat before DN and vindcitus. It was set to have action combat but excuted with targeting which ended up with the werid combat that is mabinogi lol. Man that game was werid. Hope Mabinogi 2 is good.

And idk how open world with vindictus would, with everyone doing those thing is asking for massive lag and extremely....werid pvp lol. I mean put in rooms ya but open world when you have tons of people that thing is going to turn crazy fast but looking forward to it.

I doubt there would be world PvP if they went that route. They would most likely do battlegrounds. Also, I doubt it would be seemless openworld for the sake of lag and such, either that or they are just not going to be very flashy type attacks.

True, they would have to instant up each zone/area to prevent lag, but still would still be better than current vindictus and DN.