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3/18/12 11:49:04 AM#1

First of all for all those shaking their fingers that we should have known better....that doesn't change the end result does it?  And secondly the hype machine on this game was like no others.  More like a tidal wave.  Star Wars franchise, Lucas Arts and Bioware.  And as usual all the MMO sites were parlaying their tiny tidbit PRE-RELEASE HUGE NEW INFO leaks like it was discovering gold again.

?The game was good until you went to two desert planets almost in a row.  It just ran out of gas for me.  I felt like I was trapped on a merry go round.  The awesome big city planet was pretty cool but like many post release reviewers noted despite the fact theres some great places to (only) see around you you're corraled into the same areas like all the other fellow theme park visitors.  So it's misleading. And ultimately a let down for an MMO.  More hype - a lot less game.

  

  thexrated

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3/18/12 12:03:07 PM#2

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

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  Kooshdin

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3/18/12 12:05:37 PM#3

Why do people always reply to those i am leaving posts with the same answer back lol

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  Dauzqul

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3/19/12 7:49:05 AM#4

You made it further than me. I didn't make it past the early access.

 

I remember my first visit to Tatooine. I remember thinking, "Finally. Here is a world that looks large and open." However, after venturing off the main path for a few minutes, I found myself entering these Battlefield 3-like exhaustion zones. That was the final straw that convinced me that this is no a MMORPG.

  Kyleran

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3/19/12 7:59:33 AM#5

I've stood in line for over 2 hours to ride a roller coaster at a theme park.

SWTOR is better than that, so I guess it's all a matter of your level of tolerence.

Yes, I've felt the confinement myself, sometimes I swear I'm really just running down a set of tunnels from place to place, but it hasn't totally ruined the playing experience as it appears to have done to the OP.

I try to find the fun in MMORPG's these days, and ignore that which isn't as enjoyable.

I've gone past my first month and am at level 46 with my Commando, remains to be seen whether it will be worth starting another character to redo this content. 

Although they are giving us legacy bonuses, I think I'm going to have to reroll on the Empire side just to change up the experience enough to keep it entertaining.

 

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  newbo

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3/19/12 8:05:15 AM#6

Oh boy, another one of these threads... can we please get a sticky thread called "Thread for the disappointed" so that we don't have 4-5 of these threads opening up every day. This board is so cluttered its not even funny. It's totally fine that OP has an opinion, I respect that, didn't meet your expectations fine, but for the love of god, there needs to be a thread for this stuff.

  RefMinor

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3/19/12 8:09:24 AM#7
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

 

Edit: missed the Fact Xrated was quoting the OP back at him, apologies to all, I was wrong.

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  newbo

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3/19/12 8:36:18 AM#8
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

 

Because you care enough to respond and believe your response mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice, by your own rationale would that make you self absorbed.

 

I can never work out why people get upset that someone posts on a forum, if they came into your home and lectured you, fair enough, but this is a Public Internet forum, the entirety of its purpose is a place for someone to post their opinions, whether you agree with them or not, get over yourself.

That's fine, but as already mentioned, if the only contribution someone has to make is say how they "didn't like it" and needed to open up a whole new thread, similar to the other "didn't like it" threads, it really adds absolutely nothing to the board or the discussion in general. Sticky a thread for this board, and let everyone who is disappointed voice their opinions right there. Unless there is something that has not been mentioned yet, or something unique to add to this board, I don't see the reason there needs to be so many of these threads.

  RefMinor

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3/19/12 8:45:27 AM#9
Originally posted by newbo
Originally posted by RefMinor
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

 

Because you care enough to respond and believe your response mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice, by your own rationale would that make you self absorbed.

 

I can never work out why people get upset that someone posts on a forum, if they came into your home and lectured you, fair enough, but this is a Public Internet forum, the entirety of its purpose is a place for someone to post their opinions, whether you agree with them or not, get over yourself.

That's fine, but as already mentioned, if the only contribution someone has to make is say how they "didn't like it" and needed to open up a whole new thread, similar to the other "didn't like it" threads, it really adds absolutely nothing to the board or the discussion in general. Sticky a thread for this board, and let everyone who is disappointed voice their opinions right there. Unless there is something that has not been mentioned yet, or something unique to add to this board, I don't see the reason there needs to be so many of these threads.

 

Edit: missed the Fact Xrated was quoting the OP back at him, apologies to all, I was wrong.

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  Opapanax

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3/19/12 9:44:08 PM#10

Are you guys trolling him? Cause that's ding dong banuu... lol


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  furidiam

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3/19/12 9:48:11 PM#11


Originally posted by thexrated
"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 
Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.
And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

Very funny got a good laugh from me:)

  Trionicus

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3/19/12 9:59:13 PM#12
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

First of all for all those shaking their fingers that we should have known better....that doesn't change the end result does it?  And secondly the hype machine on this game was like no others.  More like a tidal wave.  Star Wars franchise, Lucas Arts and Bioware.  And as usual all the MMO sites were parlaying their tiny tidbit PRE-RELEASE HUGE NEW INFO leaks like it was discovering gold again.

?The game was good until you went to two desert planets almost in a row.  It just ran out of gas for me.  I felt like I was trapped on a merry go round.  The awesome big city planet was pretty cool but like many post release reviewers noted despite the fact theres some great places to (only) see around you you're corraled into the same areas like all the other fellow theme park visitors.  So it's misleading. And ultimately a let down for an MMO.  More hype - a lot less game. - Kiniku

 

Now THAT is hilarious. Can I haz some of your meds?

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  Zinzan

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3/20/12 4:06:00 AM#13
Originally posted by mmoDAD

You made it further than me. I didn't make it past the early access.

 

I remember my first visit to Tatooine. I remember thinking, "Finally. Here is a world that looks large and open." However, after venturing off the main path for a few minutes, I found myself entering these Battlefield 3-like exhaustion zones. That was the final straw that convinced me that this is no a MMORPG.

It is an mmorpg, it's just not got an open world the size of SWG. It's not a sandbox, it's a story driven game and as such you should have expected limited world maps like all the other story driven mmorpg's.

If this is enough to make you quit a game in a few days then you really should consider not buying games at release as im sure you'll find something minor in every new release to make you QQ and quit.

  Hopscotch73

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3/20/12 4:45:40 AM#14
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

That made me smile.

On a more serious note, trying to force all the "I am disappoint" posts into one thread would probaly keep one mod fully occupied at all times, since everyone seems to think their opinion is unique and merits a new thread.

To be fair though, it happens on the other side of the fence too. People have to create a new thread to express how excited they are for Game X, even if there are already eleventy billion threads on the subject.

Internet forums:  where every stray thought finds a home in its own thread.

  Kwansei

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3/20/12 4:50:04 AM#15
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

Welcome to the world of social media? Why do ranges of people ranging from doctors, to politicans to McDonadl's fry cooks tweet and post the opinons and fleeting thoughts constantly?  If ya don't like the new wave of social technology and stram of thought boradcasting well then.. simply ignore it =) A far more civilized traditional CMC medium still can be found places....

  Deivos

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3/20/12 4:58:46 AM#16

For the more slow to catch on individuals out there, Thexrated is quoting the OP from a different thread and thereby pointing out that what the OP is doing goes directly against their previously mentioned point of view on the matter.

 

So when you are quoting Thexrated please understanding that you are making some of the silliest arguments possible by default and siding with someone who apparently has a split personality, regardless of whether or not you have anything valid to say.

 

Be wary of what ye read and jump on with your pitchforks, it may very well be your own home. :p

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  Sylvarii

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3/20/12 5:06:26 AM#17
Originally posted by kiniku

First of all for all those shaking their fingers that we should have known better....that doesn't change the end result does it?  And secondly the hype machine on this game was like no others.  More like a tidal wave.  Star Wars franchise, Lucas Arts and Bioware.  And as usual all the MMO sites were parlaying their tiny tidbit PRE-RELEASE HUGE NEW INFO leaks like it was discovering gold again.

?The game was good until you went to two desert planets almost in a row.  It just ran out of gas for me.  I felt like I was trapped on a merry go round.  The awesome big city planet was pretty cool but like many post release reviewers noted despite the fact theres some great places to (only) see around you you're corraled into the same areas like all the other fellow theme park visitors.  So it's misleading. And ultimately a let down for an MMO.  More hype - a lot less game.

  

Hype or no hype,not everybody fell for it.Anyone who played the open beta weekends or beta and still bought the game have no one but themselves to blame.Anyone who really though that BioWare were going to bring anything different than their usual movie games was delustional.

BioWare make the most linear rpg out their,what made you think or anyone think that would change because they were making an mmo.They were arrogant and cocky and thought they knew the MMO community better than they knew themselves but obviously not.

Told us that all mmo we had played had been a waste of time and we really didn't know what we were doing,they were full of it.

 

BioWare can never be taken seriously again along with the over the top fanboys whom are now complaining about the game.

  ignore_me

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3/20/12 5:13:00 AM#18
Originally posted by Sylvarii
Originally posted by kiniku

First of all for all those shaking their fingers that we should have known better....that doesn't change the end result does it?  And secondly the hype machine on this game was like no others.  More like a tidal wave.  Star Wars franchise, Lucas Arts and Bioware.  And as usual all the MMO sites were parlaying their tiny tidbit PRE-RELEASE HUGE NEW INFO leaks like it was discovering gold again.

?The game was good until you went to two desert planets almost in a row.  It just ran out of gas for me.  I felt like I was trapped on a merry go round.  The awesome big city planet was pretty cool but like many post release reviewers noted despite the fact theres some great places to (only) see around you you're corraled into the same areas like all the other fellow theme park visitors.  So it's misleading. And ultimately a let down for an MMO.  More hype - a lot less game.

  

Hype or no hype,not everybody fell for it.Anyone who played the open beta weekends or beta and still bought the game have no one but themselves to blame.Anyone who really though that BioWare were going bto bring anything different than their usual movie games was delustional.

BioWare make the most linear rpg out their,what made you think or anyone think that would change because they were making an mmo.They were arrogant and cocky and thought they knew the MMO community better than they knew themselves but obviously not.

Told us that all mmo we had played had been a waste of time and we really didn't know what we wee doing,they were full of it.

 

BioWare can never be taken seriously again along with the over the top fanboys whom are now complaining about the game.

I guess it's officially a crime to Hope something will be good, and then be honest about it when it isn't. Remember this condemnation you have made if you ever take down that pic and sig because you were disappointed after months of unrealistic adulation.

You want to throw away your money developing something stupid, go ahead.

  Master10K

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3/20/12 5:17:46 AM#19
Originally posted by Trionicus
Originally posted by thexrated

"Why do gamers everywhere start these "I'm leaving!" threads?  Are you uncertain of your assessment so you are hoping to be talked out of it?  Are you so self absorbed that you feel your rationale mirrors the rest of the world so everyone should heed your "sage" advice? 

Not just to this OP but to everyone that posts this crap:  don't like it?  Make your choice, move on, and take the time you waste substantiating/arguing your "decision" and use it to seek the next game of many out there that could tickle your fancy.

And for those of you that argue back and forth wit this thread.  go solve world peace or hopefully unemployment will finally stop after over 2 years and you'll have to look for a job." - kiniku

"First of all for all those shaking their fingers that we should have known better....that doesn't change the end result does it?  And secondly the hype machine on this game was like no others.  More like a tidal wave.  Star Wars franchise, Lucas Arts and Bioware.  And as usual all the MMO sites were parlaying their tiny tidbit PRE-RELEASE HUGE NEW INFO leaks like it was discovering gold again.

?The game was good until you went to two desert planets almost in a row.  It just ran out of gas for me.  I felt like I was trapped on a merry go round.  The awesome big city planet was pretty cool but like many post release reviewers noted despite the fact theres some great places to (only) see around you you're corraled into the same areas like all the other fellow theme park visitors.  So it's misleading. And ultimately a let down for an MMO.  More hype - a lot less game." - Kiniku

 

Now THAT is hilarious. Can I haz some of your meds?

Positive or negative everyone should keep posting, when peeps don't care they don't post and the problem solves itself.

Yeah. That was quite hilarious.

Hopefully I don't have contradictory statements like this in my post history. Or maybe I've just posted so much that it would someone with seriously no life, to sift through it. lol

  Deivos

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Iarð skal rifna, ok upphiminn.

3/20/12 5:20:49 AM#20

Not a crime, but the fault is on the individuals wearing the blinders as much as it's on the individuals crapping in boxes.

 

All most people have said was that people were given ample opportunity to know the game for what it truly was before they had to plunk down any cash for it, and their inability to research anything for a game they were supposedly so expectant about tels a fair bit about their degree of attentiveness to reality over what they want reality to be.

 

Hope is only so valid of an excuse. People can hope for many things yet still maintain a reasonable head and understanding of the world. I could hope for a free sandwich every day, but realistic expectations would dictate scepticism towards such a possibility. This does not mean people should be pessimists, by all means keep hoping.

 

Just temper that hope with a bit of rationality.

As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero. - Vaarsuvius

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