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General Discussion  » Why Im going to enjoy watching SWTOR circle the drain

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  nyxium

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Tumbling down the rabbit hole?

3/18/12 5:09:37 AM#21

Give in to your anger. Choose Dark Side today.

  Kuinn

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3/18/12 5:24:02 AM#22
Originally posted by Marchosias31

Since Oct 08, I would go to the official forums and read the updates. For 3 years. I would read the lies/bullsht from Bio and get hopefull that this was going to be THE game.

I spent over 150 dollars for the junk CE, and of course money spent on the subs. Bioware advertised their game in graphics NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN GAME, and then lied about it being a 'bug'. The horrible lagfest in Ilum, broken raids and on and on and on.

All that money spent in this economy, to be lied to and given a craptastic average game. Im going to rather enjoy the dying process this game is going thru.

And dont be fooled, it HAS allready begun...

 

Karmas a mofo Bioware....

 

Blame your self, long before the launch it was known that this game will have linear level based progression jumping from planet to planet untill you are max level, the PvP was confirmed to be an afterthought before launch and the game generally very similar to WoW when it comes to gameplay. There's not that much room left for imagination unless you're a fool. All I'm saying, "we" knew what it's going to be, that's why I didnt expect it to be anykind of jesus game, did not get dissapointed and I'm able to enjoy it for what it is untill something better comes along, heck, maybe they can even add enough to the game for a couple of comebacks or semi active long term relation if those other games that are actually expected to be somekind of jesus games blows.

 

Bugs and broken raids, unbalanced classes, etc, that's what you get in every single mmorpg out there, if you dont want that, stop playing mmorpgs.

  GMan3

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3/18/12 6:31:58 AM#23
Originally posted by Loke666

You coughed up $150 for a game you obviously hadn't even tried?

Was that really so smart?

Next time, first try the game then buy it if you like it. 9 out of 10 MMOs seems awesome before launch but are a huge dissapointment and you already knew that.

Besides, they didn't lie, they did something called "marketting" and customers shouldn't really trust that.

All MMOs have free trials even if some waits a while before starting them, use them next time.

TOR isn't that bad even if it wasn't the awesome game you expected it to be. But as consumer it is your responsibility to check up on stuff before buying it, you are at fault as much as ea here.

    Well said.  It is also a consumers responsibility to look PAST marketing hype and personal expectations and really get a good look at the product.  By doing so I was able to keep my own personal expectations realistic, something the OP obviously did not do.

"If half of what you tell me is a lie, how can I believe any of it?"

  echose7en

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3/18/12 8:11:55 AM#24

The only thing that annoyed me was the advertising with high ress graphics that you can not get in game, and the fact they are still advertising the game that looks better than what you actually get.

  Celcius

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3/18/12 8:36:17 AM#25
Originally posted by Marchosias31

Since Oct 08, I would go to the official forums and read the updates. For 3 years. I would read the lies/bullsht from Bio and get hopefull that this was going to be THE game.

I spent over 150 dollars for the junk CE, and of course money spent on the subs. Bioware advertised their game in graphics NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN GAME, and then lied about it being a 'bug'. The horrible lagfest in Ilum, broken raids and on and on and on.

All that money spent in this economy, to be lied to and given a craptastic average game. Im going to rather enjoy the dying process this game is going thru.

And dont be fooled, it HAS allready begun...

 

Karmas a mofo Bioware....

Dying? Hardly. The game still has close to 1.7 million subs. If the game goes down to 1million subs it will still be the 2nd biggest MMO. Losing subs, maybe in a few months depending on how 1.2 goes.. The game is no where close to dying though, that is just wishful thinking. People thought the same about Rift and it is doing quite well for itself. When the game stops producing bug fix patches and content patches you come back to me and let me know. 

  RelGn

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3/18/12 8:37:03 AM#26
Originally posted by Marchosias31

Since Oct 08, I would go to the official forums and read the updates. For 3 years. I would read the lies/bullsht from Bio and get hopefull that this was going to be THE game.

I spent over 150 dollars for the junk CE, and of course money spent on the subs. Bioware advertised their game in graphics NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN GAME, and then lied about it being a 'bug'. The horrible lagfest in Ilum, broken raids and on and on and on.

All that money spent in this economy, to be lied to and given a craptastic average game. Im going to rather enjoy the dying process this game is going thru.

And dont be fooled, it HAS allready begun...

 

Karmas a mofo Bioware....

Im laughing it took you so much time to realise that this game is going bad.

I just played the first month i saw the updates they had in the first month and how many bugs the game had and i realised that this game is not going to succeed.

Not even thinking resubing i better spent those money on wow.

 

 

  Thorkune

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3/18/12 8:37:42 AM#27

You might want to let the 1.7 million people playing it know that it is circling the drain. With the content they are cranking out, free trials now, and it being Star Wars, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon....sorry to disappoint you. I do agree with the CE comment though. I was disappointed in what I got for my $150.00

  Celcius

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3/18/12 8:47:35 AM#28
Originally posted by bigsmiff

You might want to let the 1.7 million people playing it know that it is circling the drain. With the content they are cranking out, free trials now, and it being Star Wars, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon....sorry to disappoint you. I do agree with the CE comment though. I was disappointed in what I got for my $150.00

Agreed, even the Digital Deluxe doesn't feel like it was even remotely worth it.

  sharpshade

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3/18/12 8:50:39 AM#29
Originally posted by Phry

TOR isnt really that bad, it just has a lot of missing features. I know that i for one won't be returning until they sort out the grouping thing, nothing worse than having to hang around for half hour or more in fleet trying to get a group to do a flashpoint.. or even just for regular gameplay. Though i think i'd probably have to switch servers as shaltin tunnels was a bit underpopulated anyway.

Well I'm brand new to the game, just started playing this past Thursday (right before the free trial weekend) and made sure I made a character on what was considered a high populated server and begged for over an hour LFG for a flashpoint and still had no takers. I asked in chat if they were going to put any sort of que up for these things with the new patch and got a big "no" maybe in 1.3...

I'm enjoying the story and voice acting quite a bit but I think I'm just going to play until my time runs out. 

  Aethaeryn

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3/18/12 8:50:43 AM#30
Originally posted by Bardus
Originally posted by ropenice
Originally posted by Marchosias31

Since Oct 08, I would go to the official forums and read the updates. For 3 years. I would read the lies/bullsht from Bio and get hopefull that this was going to be THE game.

I spent over 150 dollars for the junk CE, and of course money spent on the subs. Bioware advertised their game in graphics NOT EVEN AVAILABLE IN GAME, and then lied about it being a 'bug'. The horrible lagfest in Ilum, broken raids and on and on and on.

All that money spent in this economy, to be lied to and given a craptastic average game. Im going to rather enjoy the dying process this game is going thru.

And dont be fooled, it HAS allready begun...

 

Karmas a mofo Bioware....

Sad. That's why, in this economy, most people don't waste $150 on pre-ordering a game (with so many underachieving these days), and wait til after release info comes out. If ToR had got even half-way decent player reviews after launch, they would've gained millions more of the smartly sceptical players that waited, and decided not to buy. Kind of a wate to post these types of threads with no info and just bitter disappointment.

1st off to the OP, I'm on your side I really am but you asked for it. If you pre-ordered it you have no one to blame but yourself. You and the couple million other people that bought that game before knowing what it will be like at laun   He did clearly state that he followed the forums and all the dev postings. . all the promises and the merketing that was misleading.

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  User Deleted
3/18/12 8:53:16 AM#31
Originally posted by bigsmiff

You might want to let the 1.7 million people playing it know that it is circling the drain. With the content they are cranking out, free trials now, and it being Star Wars, it isn't going anywhere anytime soon....sorry to disappoint you. I do agree with the CE comment though. I was disappointed in what I got for my $150.00

    The more people who support this game, the less good it'll do the industry. All of my hopes for MMOs are riding on GW2, which is sadly not quite as innovative as I had hoped it'd be. I was foolish for hoping then and I still am foolish for hoping now that anything will change. 

The genre has gotten so bad that the Koreans have finally taken over; they actually are making sandbox games now and games with real, interactive combat, not just the button spam fests that are LotRO and TRO..

Back in the day we used to laugh at ourselves and never consider the force in the east to ever catch up in terms of raw gameplay. Asian grinders were basically like graphical MUDs that you basically just repeatedly typed one word into.

Now look at what has happened: The latest and.. "greatest" AAA MMO to hit the western market in the past 2 years is a crappy copy of games that existed nearly a decade before it.. in terms of combat. So instead of a making clever interactive game they make a story book with boring game play to advance through it.

This is worse than any Asian grinder, because it implies that people want things TOLD to them; making your own story through interacting with the game's mechanics has sort of died and it's sad to watch.

RP died first, the second thing to go is the actual combat in-game and you'll basically get a crappy version of TV; you know, something you pay money for and sit on your ass to watch without thinking.

 

 

 

 

  palulalula

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3/18/12 9:06:03 AM#32

Maybe because you have nothing better to do :)  Enjoy your ride in to hate, we continue to play

  dinams

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3/18/12 9:08:09 AM#33

The dark side is strong in the OP

"It has potential"
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"It sucks"
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  lldownlifell

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3/18/12 9:09:13 AM#34

The low population servers is what's really causing people to leave. For well over a month now, a large portion of the very low population servers are lucky to have 15 people on fleet. Making it a solo game and unable to do any of the content. Transfers and mergers should be #1 priority. While I know they can't stick someone from graphics or something over on transfers etc, or simply hire more in that area to expediate things. It is what it is, unfortunately.

  cutthecrap

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3/18/12 9:14:30 AM#35
Originally posted by Loke666

All MMOs have free trials even if some waits a while before starting them, use them next time.

TOR isn't that bad even if it wasn't the awesome game you expected it to be. But as consumer it is your responsibility to check up on stuff before buying it, you are at fault as much as ea here.

Kinda this. Shrug. You'd expect people to know better after all those years, also to be aware of what they like or dislike in games, but apparently some people never learn or know themselves and their gaming taste, or maybe just too lazy to do some research before buying stuff.

 

Originally posted by Aethaeryn

 He did clearly state that he followed the forums and all the dev postings. . all the promises and the merketing that was misleading.

Interesting. I read dev posts and other info too, and knew exactly what to expect from SWTOR. It doesn't take much skill to get to the core of marketing and company speech, if people still can't they should prepare themselves to get suckered into stuff with every marketing and advertising around on tv, commercials and maybe relationships too when you end up totally surprised when you discover that the girl you were dating had pictured some unexpected, nasty stuff far more rose colored and optimistically to you than you'd have preferred.

  User Deleted
3/18/12 9:14:59 AM#36
Originally posted by lldownlifell

The low population servers is what's really causing people to leave. For well over a month now, a large portion of the very low population servers are lucky to have 15 people on fleet. Making it a solo game and unable to do any of the content. Transfers and mergers should be #1 priority. While I know they can't stick someone from graphics or something over on transfers etc, or simply hire more in that area to expediate things. It is what it is, unfortunately.

 

"The low population is what's really causing people to leave."

Anybody else see irony in that statement? It's like saying the well is dry, because there's no water in it.

I don't mean to flame, but that statement has been typed so many times on these forums that it'd be a travesty not to point out the logical fallacy that is behind it.

 

  Kakkzooka

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3/18/12 9:15:52 AM#37

To quote The Stones: "Let it Bleed."

Re: SWTOR

"Remember, remember - Kakk says 'December.'"

  lldownlifell

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3/18/12 9:20:10 AM#38
Originally posted by //\\//\\oo
Originally posted by lldownlifell

The low population servers is what's really causing people to leave. For well over a month now, a large portion of the very low population servers are lucky to have 15 people on fleet. Making it a solo game and unable to do any of the content. Transfers and mergers should be #1 priority. While I know they can't stick someone from graphics or something over on transfers etc, or simply hire more in that area to expediate things. It is what it is, unfortunately.

 

"The low population is what's really causing people to leave."

Anybody else see irony in that statement? It's like saying the well is dry, because there's no water in it.

I don't mean to flame, but that statement has been typed so many times on these forums that it'd be a travesty not to point out the logical fallacy that is behind it.

I have 3 posts I guess it is now, I'm clearly not that active on these forums lol. I'm unaware of how often someone says that, but it's to no suprise.

  ktanner3

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3/18/12 9:20:36 AM#39

People like the OP is why I enjoy watching TOR succeed.  Hope you have plenty of tissues to catch the tears of disappointment when it doesn't happen. As others have already pointed out, your dumb move by spending $150.00 for the game when you had cheaper alternatives.

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  tysonj25

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3/18/12 9:26:47 AM#40
Originally posted by Lesrach

Hi all!

I spent my 55 coins on digital preorder. I played semi casually about a month and a half to get to lvl 50 and had a blast!

Now one night out with my friends cost me those 55coins and more.

2 singing classes cost me those 55 coins.

I buy 1.5 times take away for me and my wife with those 55 coins.

 

To actually play hours every evening for month and a half with 55 coins is well worth the money imo. I do not feel that I was tricked or fooled by Bioware.

 

Did I want swtor to be a thempark - no, but I think it was very well done themepark game and even quite polished at launch for MMORPG standards.

Was I happy the end game lacked content - no, but what game has had tons of end game content at launch, feels people are comparing the end game in swtor to the games that have allready had years to create it.

Sadly in every themepark in the endgame I end up sitting in queue for pvp-instas.... swtor, rift, wow, WAR, AoC... maybe it's time for Sandbox games and here's my wish list for Sandbox :)

http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/344162/What-I-would-love-to-see-in-future-Sanbox.html

 

 

thank you! I couldn't have said it better! I spent 40 dollars last night at Unos's for f sake! I play casualy and get enjoyment out of it, and that in the end is what I am looking for! I don't want a second job, I don't have time any more to play for 12+ hour stretches like I did when I played EQ, EQ 2, WOW, Shadowbane, SWG, Eve, and a list of others. 

Just give me a couple hours of fun, thats all I'm asking!

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