Originally posted by Kanester

 

I'm downloading MO as we speak, SO looking forward to starting the trial tomorrow. I know little about the game. Is crafting the only way to get items?

 

You can get many items from NPC vendors, but most Armor and all weapons as far as I know are crafted.  You can buy some food, reagents, pickaxes, fishing poles etc from vendors.  There are player owned NPC vendors people can put in front of their houses, but no one uses them much.  When the next patch comes out it will supposedly have some kind of local auction house which IMO will be nice for crafters like me, who were never part of a big clan. 

The good thing is you can usually find someone to make you something in town.  Unforunately my sub ran out, but I would always give armor and a greatsword to genuine new players.  If you are new just ask around in town, someone might be nice enough to give you some gear for cheap :D.  Good luck.

Originally posted by trillgod

has mortal online improved stability wise and bug wise?

It no longer crashes 6 times a day so I guess that's an improvement. Check the server status thread on their forums to see how stable it is atm.

Bug wise very little has improved. Prediction and combat are still rubbish, and fighting near buildings means players warping everywhere. It's pretty much just a PVP arena with some vague, buggy nods to the sandbox premise. It also has no PVE worth doing, as the game has no real AI, "epic mobs" will just stand there while you kill them from range for eg.

Of the other games, not played Wurm so would recommend EVE as it is far superior to MO in every way.

Originally posted by Saxx0n

Well

Wurm - good gameplay - completely abysmal graphics

MO - good graphics - completely abysmal gameplay

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Originally posted by trillgod

Originally posted by Twistingfate

I found WURM really difficult to start because of all the areas people had claimed as their own. No fun wandering for ages to find a plot of land and then get eatten by an aligator and start back at spawn haha. Id recomend EVE if you have the time and attention span to stick with a hard game. EVE has a huge learning curve and isnt for everyone.

 

Best wishes

Saint

yes i'll try all 3 for sure...im juts scared that eve requires a hardcore mindset...i wouldnt consider myself casualmmo player but id put in maybe like 1-3 hours a day?

You'd be shocked. Eve is actually far from a hardcore mindset. It's a play how you want game. If somethings fun, keep doing it. There's always better ways to make ISK, but fun > ISK. Been playing for weeks now, having an absolute blast.

Don't be afraid about the timeframe that needs sinking. Your skills train based on time. You can log in monday morning, queue up your skills and come back later to actually play. It's not that bad at all.

If you only have 1-3 hours a day I would suggest you skip over Wurm. It is seriously slow. A solid game, but I just can't devote the time it takes to do anything in that game.

I would suggest Ultima Online, its got older graphics (I prefer the 2d client)...But I see too many negatives for your preferences in those games you listed, and time problems.

I am not a big fan of UOs new skill systems and such, but if you never played the old, you won't have the problem I had with it...With the time you can play, I think UO would fit you better....Just a suggestion if you don't mind the style.

Have you heard of Xsyon? It is a good first sandbox. There are tribal safe areas, Terraforming, Architecture, and various other forms of crafting. It has really good graphics and it doesn't take you an hour to move one section of earth.

Originally posted by Sora2810

 

You'd be shocked. Eve is actually far from a hardcore mindset. It's a play how you want game. If somethings fun, keep doing it. There's always better ways to make ISK, but fun > ISK. Been playing for weeks now, having an absolute blast.

Don't be afraid about the timeframe that needs sinking. Your skills train based on time. You can log in monday morning, queue up your skills and come back later to actually play. It's not that bad at all.

lets be clear here. you can be as hard core or as easy going as you want in EvE. however IF you want to be major force in the game ( be a major player in one of the big corps for example) you will need to spend A LOT of time playing this game. if, on the other hand you are fine with just being a pawn of intergalactic conflict, helping your favourity corp wher ever you can, you really dont need to commit all that much time to it.

having said that, skills in this game train in real time, so the longer you are subbed to the game the more skills you'll be able to have. you cannot grind skills in this game, you can only wait for them to train. how many skills you have is directly linked to how long you have been subbed to teh game. of course the more skils you get the easier it is to make ISK and eventually you can spend a few hours a week and make enough ISKperweek to buy yourself a monthly pilot license ( which basically lets you play for free).

Mortal Online - Great combat system if you like a first person medieval combat kind of system. Free for all open world PVP, along with full loot. Some territory features like building houses and keeps and taxing players who build on your land, etc. Also has an interesting crafting system. Its main feature is definitely PvP though. Game is still very very incomplete though, even though it is released. Pretty good graphics for an Indie game. Population is probably still pretty low though, but I have heard that more people have been playing it recently. If you play this game then it is highly recommended you join a clan or find some friends to play with.

Eve Online - The most complete sandbox out right now IMO, and probably the most succesful so far. The learning curve on this is a little steep, but once you get past it, it gets much easier to understand. Its a fun game to play with other people, but playing alone can get pretty boring at times. If you are into an in-depth futuristic space game with many things to do, then this game is for you.

Wurm Online - Now, I haven't played much of this at all, but it seems like a good game. Seems like you could build and craft pretty much anything in this world. I think theres also some combat. Looks like a very complex game and sounds like a lot of fun once you really get into it.

So if you're into some PvP and territorial wars then Mortal is for you. If you want to fly a ship and do whatever you want then EVE is for you. If you want to craft and build things like mad then Wurm Online is your baby.

Originally posted by TruthXHurts

Have you heard of Xsyon? It is a good first sandbox. There are tribal safe areas, Terraforming, Architecture, and various other forms of crafting. It has really good graphics and it doesn't take you an hour to move one section of earth.

yes ive tried xsyon and it left a bad taste in my mouth..it wasnt the crafting or none of that turned me off..it was really unstable and laggy when i played it and the animal spawning was absolutely bugged...i was my tribe hunter and i had to roam like 4 hours to find 1 bear a 1 racoon...not my idea of fun

Everyone seems to recommend eve which ill try after i graduate lmao

and for mortal online..can anyone give tips for noobs i just started andi have NO IDEA WHATTO DO lmao

Played wurm and eve for few years. I can't realy compare them. They have their own taste. Wurm is more like a simulation rather than regular game. If you want to have fun and find something to do, it will not fail you. I have still have a long to do list after so many years of playing. Eve is somewhat pvp or boredom game. If you are not craft freak and wanna run a industrial giant you should go to pvp choice. Then eve shines better than anyone out there. Fleet ops, metagaming, small roams, galactic size historic battles.

Whereas both games have steep learning curve, you get used to game after a certain point, till that time you will have fn with every second of learning experience

Originally posted by trillgod

Originally posted by TruthXHurts

Have you heard of Xsyon? It is a good first sandbox. There are tribal safe areas, Terraforming, Architecture, and various other forms of crafting. It has really good graphics and it doesn't take you an hour to move one section of earth.

yes ive tried xsyon and it left a bad taste in my mouth..it wasnt the crafting or none of that turned me off..it was really unstable and laggy when i played it and the animal spawning was absolutely bugged...i was my tribe hunter and i had to roam like 4 hours to find 1 bear a 1 racoon...not my idea of fun

Everyone seems to recommend eve which ill try after i graduate lmao

and for mortal online..can anyone give tips for noobs i just started andi have NO IDEA WHATTO DO lmao

Look at these vids for a good start. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCyDQKZPelY and then part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCkp_Wz77P8 As I said before I would move to either Vadda or Bakti for a more nOOb friendly atmosphere.

Edit. And ofc. Ask around for help as well. The help channel are very usefull.

I'm surprised no one mentioned Perpetuum. It's like small-scale land-based EVE.

You said "noob friendly."  Anyone who has even played fifteen minutes of the EVE free trial will tell you EVE isn't noob friendly.  if you want to play that game, it's like being in the military: grim determination and perseverance are what it takes.  And EVE doesn't have the benefit of Bootcamp.  That being said, it has awesome graphics, awesome gameplay, perhaps the most engaging and active community of any MMO I've played, and help is there if you look.  But, stay away if you don't like PvP.  You are not safe anywhere in New Eden.