So, I can't judge really in-game as there are so many servers. However, the server I'm on (Illidan, NA)...is way more populated than it used to be. Granted it is the "in" server now, when it really wasn't before when I first joined it, due to good PvPers or something. However, I've seen a lot of people in-game and in my guild returning with the new scroll of resurrection, many from 2006 and 2007. And at least in my guild, all of them have re-subscribed.

My friend who plays on the EU servers, is on a medium population RP server. Not sure which one he is on. He too has seen a renewed interest in WoW, with a lot of people on his server coming back to WoW.

I'm guessing because of the new Scroll of Resurrection offer, which may or may not have a limited effect on the subscriber number. But it seems to have done a good job of bringing a lot of players back, even if its only short term. Or/and maybe because the latest MMO everyone was hyped about, have resulted in a lot of people returning back to WoW. I know like Vanguard has seen quite a big population boost of disgruntled players from a certain new MMO, but I'm not subbed to it, so I'm relying on player feedback on that one. And on Illidan, the people I've asked stated "Yeah that MMO is fail. Thats why I'm back here in WoW".

Anyway, seems population has gone way up on both the server I'm on and my friends server over in EU side. And quite a lot of renewed interest in the game it seems, on various forums.

Probably just people who got fed up of being on a low-population server finding a new home.

Game is bleeding subs steadily, but if a movement of players off quiet servers to busier ones is happening that's probably a good thing.

I play on Fenris, which is supposedly on the low end of population.   It is strange because the game does seem more full the past few weeks.   It is hard to tell because of LFR and LFG.. but I know the AH is crazy busy lately.

The thing that really gets me though, I play horde, which is the lower faction, on a low population server.. yet I see those new $25 mounts in Ogrimmar everywhere.  I would love to see Blizzard post how many of those they sell.

Raid progression on my server is pretty decent.  We have 1 guild doing 25M heroic DS now, and about 15 that are making 10 man heroic progress.  I do think a lot of the ´lesser´ guilds are just using LFR now rather than banging their heads at trying to keep 10 constant members raiding.

I think a lot of those ´lost´ subscribers were from China.   It is strange that WOW lost subscribers, but still generated more income then before.  it has to be those low-paying subscribers that quit.

I could are less.  AH is full and busy, Ogrimmar is full.  Guild is raiding and LFG and LFR have almost no queue times.  

Originally posted by Isasis

So, I can't judge really in-game as there are so many servers. However, the server I'm on (Illidan, NA)...is way more populated than it used to be.

i have never seen Illidan server on high population or lower... i have only seen it full and locked since i started playing the official WoW (when cata launched). Of course ive been away for some months now but it seems Illidan has been the most populated realm ever.

Maybe some of the people who moved to TOR have moved back?

It is relly hard to say anything for sure based on a few weeks and that some servers "feel" more populated now than before.

It is of course possibl that the scroll of rez helped as well. Question is if people will stay or not, and if it is a local phenomenah  or a world wide.

Anyways, I am sure Blizzard will give some numbers again after this month, they have given them every 3 months for a while now and if numbers really have increased we will hear about it. :)

I think we all know why Illidrama is packed.

You might find that its getting to the end of the content cycle and people are reviving their Alts.

Originally posted by Mellkor

You might find that its getting to the end of the content cycle and people are reviving their Alts.

at least theres alt replayability in WoW, unlike other mmos *cough* rift.... hehe

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Mellkor

You might find that its getting to the end of the content cycle and people are reviving their Alts.

at least theres alt replayability in WoW, unlike other mmos *cough* rift.... hehe

Atleast there are content updates unlike cough cough WoW. How is Deathwing doing? Going on T-8 months till you ahve to pay $60 for Pandaland. The real question is "renewed interest in what?". wtf are you doing daily? You give these people $15 a month for the last year and got 3 updates that were all raids and nothing/

Why don't WoW fans understand that this game is single handily the reason why the P2P model has become the very essense of coorporate greed? Blizzard has just become a terrible developer and how anyone debates this is amazing to me. I am not saying pick Rift over WoW, but come the hell on and tell me these guys are not lazy and have just given up.

I commend you for your loyalism, but the writing really is on the wall and by the time 12/31/2012 rolls around the sub numbers are not going to be pretty. There is no chance WoW makes it out of 2012 with subs above 6mil. The quality of the game has taken a flat out nose dive.

This MOP is flat out damn joke. They want to encourage pvp seriously..world pvp the thing they killed on purpose, then let you pay to get on lop sided servers that are 99% horde or 99% alliance. wtf do you people expect are going change? Call this attacking or whatever, but this excuse I should play WoW because other people play WoW is old and tired.

A lot of people do play this game and alot of them are pricks who if I knew them in real life would give them a beat down because they think it is fun to create content out of making other people miserable instead of holding this developer responsible. Take out the anger on Blizzard because this game is a joke.

What drug are you on? Leveling in WoW is still a boring terrible grind.

Originally posted by Puremallace

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by Mellkor

You might find that its getting to the end of the content cycle and people are reviving their Alts.

at least theres alt replayability in WoW, unlike other mmos *cough* rift.... hehe

Atleast there are content updates unlike cough cough WoW. How is Deathwing doing? Going on T-8 months till you ahve to pay $60 for Pandaland. The real question is "renewed interest in what?". wtf are you doing daily? You give these people $15 a month for the last year and got 3 updates that were all raids and nothing/

Why don't WoW fans understand that this game is single handily the reason why the P2P model has become the very essense of coorporate greed? Blizzard has just become a terrible developer and how anyone debates this is amazing to me. I am not saying pick Rift over WoW, but come the hell on and tell me these guys are not lazy and have just given up.

I commend you for your loyalism, but the writing really is on the wall and by the time 12/31/2012 rolls around the sub numbers are not going to be pretty. There is no chance WoW makes it out of 2012 with subs above 6mil. The quality of the game has taken a flat out nose dive.

This MOP is flat out damn joke. They want to encourage pvp seriously..world pvp the thing they killed on purpose, then let you pay to get on lop sided servers that are 99% horde or 99% alliance. wtf do you people expect are going change? Call this attacking or whatever, but this excuse I should play WoW because other people play WoW is old and tired.

A lot of people do play this game and alot of them are pricks who if I knew them in real life would give them a beat down because they think it is fun to create content out of making other people miserable instead of holding this developer responsible. Take out the anger on Blizzard because this game is a joke.

dude is there something wrong with you? did i offended you with my comment? did i threat your family if they dont play WoW? what kind of answers are those when i didnt even mentioned any of that. You got some anger management issues, pal.

back to topic. Trion does a good job focusing on constantly updating the game, but the actual content they add is not the best thing. Im not subbed to any of those games but i will take 1 expansion from WoW anytime over all those Rift updates combined that havent changed the gameplay at all (no alt replayability?, beyond linear with only 1 area to level up per map?, no cities? yeah meridian and sanctum are not even cities, questing from quest hub 1 to quest hub 2 to 3 to 4 etc etc) no options at all, just following 1 road to lvl cap =boring.

I am a fan of the Lore in WoW not actually the game but i do understand what you mean by the greed of subscriptions, that is true and sad but its even more sad that the new developers that are supposed to make the difference fail because they try to copy WoW instead (this has been discussed many times so i wont go over it again).

If i was loyal to WoW like you said, i would be subscribed and happily paying monthly and paying for all of Blizzards extra crap and services. That said, im not loyal to developers. That doesnt mean they are not successful because they have been for many years. JUst because you dont like WoW or blizzard doesnt mean they wont pass 2012 with more than 6 mil players. Thats your opinion and perhaps your evil wishes towards them lol.

MoP is not a joke, as i said before just because you dont like it, it doesnt make MoP bad or good. You sound too sure that MoP is a joke and bad and all, i envy you for playing through the whole MoP expansion (sarcasm).

Yes a lot of people that play WoW are pricks but not all of them. The same applies to Rifts playerbase, Swtor playerbase, and every single mmo out there. That side effect is not built in the game, its the people.

You are really mad that you are expecting to see a WoW player in Real life to beat him / her down for being a WoW player. Simply Astounding.

Your post propagates this belief that well everyone else is playing WoW, so you should also. It worked for a long time, but you come here and make it sound bright and shiny when it is not. More then likely I was playing Warcraft games when you were still a egg and sperm. This is not the same company who made some of the best stuff and revolutionized the genre.

Originally posted by Puremallace

Your post propagates this belief that well everyone else is playing WoW, so you should also. It worked for a long time, but you come here and make it sound bright and shiny when it is not. More then likely I was playing Warcraft games when you were still a egg and sperm. This is not the same company who made some of the best stuff and revolutionized the genre.

can you quote what part of my posts propagates that belief? i think you are answering to the wrong poster or something. Blizzard (or any other devs)  dont pay me to propagate their stuff and since am not a fanatic i dont need to do it. When i said that WoW has more alt replayability than other mmos (specificaly Rift) everyone knows thats true. I never promoted playing WoW because everyone does play it.

Well for me I couldn't even return if I wanted to (which I don't).  I got so annoyed at Blizzard that I had them delete any record that I even existed LOL.  I'm sure there is still a record somewhere, but it doesn't recognize my email address anymore at least.

My WoW account is the only account I've ever had that has been hacked, and the last time it was hacked I hadn't even played for over a year and they still somehow blamed me for it.  How could I have been the problem when I didn't even have the game installed anymore and hadn't played for over a year???  In fact I had gotten an entirely new computer over that time period so it couldn't even be any traces left over on my PC.  Then they had the nerve to send me an email warning accusing me of gold selling or something and that my account was suspended.  Again, I hadn't even had the software installed for over a year.

I ended up raging at thier customer service and having them delete everything.  It probably cost them a Diablo 3 sale as I doubt I'll re-establish a Blizzard account just for that.  Only if Titan is epic would I ever join them again.

I seriously think there is some inside hacking jobs going on over there.  I am the very careful type when it comes to passwords...

Originally posted by gainesvilleg

Well for me I couldn't even return if I wanted to (which I don't).  I got so annoyed at Blizzard that I had them delete any record that I even existed LOL.  I'm sure there is still a record somewhere, but it doesn't recognize my email address anymore at least.

My WoW account is the only account I've ever had that has been hacked, and the last time it was hacked I hadn't even played for over a year and they still somehow blamed me for it.  How could I have been the problem when I didn't even have the game installed anymore and hadn't played for over a year???  In fact I had gotten an entirely new computer over that time period so it couldn't even be any traces left over on my PC.  Then they had the nerve to send me an email warning accusing me of gold selling or something and that my account was suspended.  Again, I hadn't even had the software installed for over a year.

I ended up raging at thier customer service and having them delete everything.  It probably cost them a Diablo 3 sale as I doubt I'll re-establish a Blizzard account just for that.  Only if Titan is epic would I ever join them again.

I seriously think there is some inside hacking jobs going on over there.  I am the very careful type when it comes to passwords...

...really? You get hacked because you made a mistake. Several options, you made a easy to guess username (bobsmith) and password (idontusecapsornumbers) or you bought gold, click on something you weren't supposed too, got phished?

Though blaming blizzard for hacking your account? ok.

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by gainesvilleg

Well for me I couldn't even return if I wanted to (which I don't).  I got so annoyed at Blizzard that I had them delete any record that I even existed LOL.  I'm sure there is still a record somewhere, but it doesn't recognize my email address anymore at least.

My WoW account is the only account I've ever had that has been hacked, and the last time it was hacked I hadn't even played for over a year and they still somehow blamed me for it.  How could I have been the problem when I didn't even have the game installed anymore and hadn't played for over a year???  In fact I had gotten an entirely new computer over that time period so it couldn't even be any traces left over on my PC.  Then they had the nerve to send me an email warning accusing me of gold selling or something and that my account was suspended.  Again, I hadn't even had the software installed for over a year.

I ended up raging at thier customer service and having them delete everything.  It probably cost them a Diablo 3 sale as I doubt I'll re-establish a Blizzard account just for that.  Only if Titan is epic would I ever join them again.

I seriously think there is some inside hacking jobs going on over there.  I am the very careful type when it comes to passwords...

...really? You get hacked because you made a mistake. Several options, you made a easy to guess username (bobsmith) and password (idontusecapsornumbers) or you bought gold, click on something you weren't supposed too, got phished?

Though blaming blizzard for hacking your account? ok.

Dude, I'm an IT guy with a security background.  I know a little bit about security and not getting hacked.  I'm telling you, I probably have several hundred online accounts and the ONLY account that has ever been hacked is the WoW account.  And did you not read my post?  I wasn't even playing it anymore and it got hacked.  And the password was strong.  I do have a few accounts out there that don't have strong passwords but the WoW account was a very strong password because it had been hacked before.

Believe me when I say this, Blizzard has an issue with accounts being compromised it is really the only explanation for the sheer magnitude of hacking goin on over there.  Believe what you wish.  Believe I'm some noob giving out his password but their issue is real.

Originally posted by gainesvilleg

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by gainesvilleg
 

...really? You get hacked because you made a mistake. Several options, you made a easy to guess username (bobsmith) and password (idontusecapsornumbers) or you bought gold, click on something you weren't supposed too, got phished?

Though blaming blizzard for hacking your account? ok.

Dude, I'm an IT guy with a security background. 

Game developers make mistake with their games. So IT people can also get hacked as well as anybody else. Fortunately, i take advantage of the "make long passwords including numbers, symbols, caps, and not words from dictionaries". I have never been hacked in any account.

I think if theres something fishy about Blizz security they would have to fix it because their money comes form the players and letting your playerbase get hacked is not smart so i doubt its their fault. Of course it can happen (remember SONY's database with outdated security?)

Originally posted by rojo6934

Originally posted by gainesvilleg

Originally posted by Aori

Originally posted by gainesvilleg
 

...really? You get hacked because you made a mistake. Several options, you made a easy to guess username (bobsmith) and password (idontusecapsornumbers) or you bought gold, click on something you weren't supposed too, got phished?

Though blaming blizzard for hacking your account? ok.

Dude, I'm an IT guy with a security background. 

Game developers make mistake with their games. So IT people can also get hacked as well as anybody else. Fortunately, i take advantage of the "make long passwords including numbers, symbols, caps, and not words from dictionaries. I have never been hacked in any account.

I think if theres something fishy about Blizz security they would have to fix it because their money comes form the players and letting your playerbase get hacked is not smart so i doubt its their fault. Of course it can happen (remember SONY's database with outdated security?)

Yes, my Blizz password was strong.  I even create different email addresses for different accounts quite frequently.  I am a very careful person when it comes to accounts that have credit card info on them.  Accounts without finance info I'm slighly less careful but still have never been hacked there.

I would agree that it could have been my fault if it only happened once and if the second time it happened I had actually been playing.  When I stopped my subscription I updated my password again and then uninstalled the software.  Over the next 16 months or so I had even purchased a new PC, so not even a trace of the software was left.  Then, out of the blue, several months later, the account is hacked.

Please tell me how that could possibly have been my fault?  I can't think of a single scenario how it could have been my fault the second time.

Free level 80s cause the appearance of renewed interest.

Originally posted by Chrisbox

What drug are you on? Leveling in WoW is still a boring terrible grind.

    ^This