"spamming just one key"....

Seriously?

Even I can do that..... and I am the worst skilled MMO Player that ever lived....

GW2 is doomed.

(j/k)

Originally posted by sinjin

There is nothing new and refreshing in GW2 just saying, its the same ol' same ol'.

In a way, I kind of agree with you. I'm not knocking the game, i'll end up buying it, but for me it takes some of the better content of the better games out there, everyone is making a huge deal about !!! omg!!! open world pvp with castles and siege weapons?!?! yeah im doing that in DAoC as we speak, but it works, its effective, and that alone is the main reason why i will play GW2, its taking a little bit of my favorite aspect of my favorite game, 3 faction (in GW2 its not really 3 factions, but 3 teams) open world type pvp where a main objective is taking that gosh dang keep and advancing into enemy territory, im not bashing GW2 by any means, only thing i hope they do well is crafting, cause to me a good crafting game also gives a good player economy, which is why i still play DAoC, i HATE crafting, but other people like it and i will pay them a goooood amount to craft my temp for me.

While I'm really looking forward to GW2; I think people are jumping the gun thinking it's going to be the next WoW. Will developers copy some elements?  Sure they do that for nearly every MMO that doesn’t suck; but I think Arenanet is just hoping that GW2 does half as well as it's predecessor did

Game developers are consciously trying to copy WoW's success, not that of EQ or some other game.  In that, if they do something because WoW did it, it doesn't matter if it was Blizzard's original idea or something they stole from some other game.

Still, it's not like they blindly copy everything from WoW.  Game developers have at least been sharp enough not to copy WoW's disastrously awful server instability.

Originally posted by Quizzical

Game developers are consciously trying to copy WoW's success, not that of EQ or some other game.  In that, if they do something because WoW did it, it doesn't matter if it was Blizzard's original idea or something they stole from some other game.

Still, it's not like they blindly copy everything from WoW.  Game developers have at least been sharp enough not to copy WoW's disastrously awful server instability.

hah the guy who wrote the server code for WoW  was one of the top exectuives in Arenanet/

Why people think EQ is what everything copied off is a mystery to me. Fact, Meridian 59 was the first subscription based MMORPG. The whole style of mmorpgs was based purely around 3DO's might and magic series and 3DO's meridian 59.

EQ copied the crap out of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=8x3JiS6EIz0

       The hype on GW2 scares me....I'd be willing to guess that most of the people praising really know little or nothing about it and surely have not played it........

Originally posted by hikaru77

LoL, GW2 is a clone of so many MMO already, what are you talking about?. I mean, is a Copy and paste of warhammer

No it isn't.

What is going on in this thread?

Can we maybe at least play this game for 6 months before we decide it's time to erect an altar, get down on all 4s and start worshiping during 24hr candlelight vigils while singing Kum Ba Yah?????

WOW! Just, WOW!

This is getting scary........... or hilarious.

I can't tell the difference anymore.

Originally posted by bishbosh

if guild wars 2 is succesful do you think we will end up having to play guild wars 2 clones for the next 5-10 years?

how do you feel about this?

 

How do I feel? Well I feel like I don't want this to be the beginning of calling other games clones of GW2 :-) 

Howver, since we're on the subject it all depends on how you view it. To me GW2 is an improved and more advanced clone of all the past games I've loved. So more like the other games would be clones of the clone that was a clone of a combination of clones o.O

I don't care if that made no sense, it did when it was in my head lol...

So this isn't about that upcoming rehash: Guild Wars episode 2: Attack of the Clones

Betcha episode 3 involves Revenge of the Blizz.

Surely hope not., MMOs have already de-evolved enough that we don't need anymore more action adventures claiming to be MMOs. Let's start calling these games what they are please!

I also don't think GW2 is going to be that big after a few months time.

Originally posted by hikaru77
 i saw a vid of a ranger killing a mob for 5 min, and a zerg of players hitting a keep door for 15 min, and it was all about spamming just 1 key.  The 1st beta weekend is coming, we will see how good or bad the game will be, but talking about GW2 clones when the game is not even out, is just too much. 

I cant wait for GW2 like many others - but I agree

Originally posted by Vannor

Why people think EQ is what everything copied off is a mystery to me. Fact, Meridian 59 was the first subscription based MMORPG. The whole style of mmorpgs was based purely around 3DO's might and magic series and 3DO's meridian 59.

EQ copied the crap out of it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=8x3JiS6EIz0

I never played this game and yes graphically it looks similar to Everquest but wiki says this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_59

Unlike many online RPGs, it is not based around character levels and classes. Instead, each individual skill and attribute, including health, develop independently of one another.

but otherwise I agree -- EQ stole most of it's ideas from MUDs and D&D

I think the only fresh idea Everquest brought to mmorpgs was raiding

Originally posted by Starpower

Originally posted by beej1986

 

The problem with your conclusions is that you are weighing two different games that are not at all the same. GW1 was a hub game, not an mmorpg. Gw2 is indeed a mmorpg. The way they affect the market will be tremendously different.

It wont because people don't have to weigh what game they should subscribe to. They will buy GW2 as a one time purchase just like any other one time purchase game. It will not stop those people from subscribing to other MMOs. If an interesting MMO is released tomorrow GW2 owners will buy try and subscribe if it's any good. Because GW2 is a non sub game it won't stop that from happening. No matter how good GW2 is

 

That's not entirely accurate. The point you're forgetting is time spent. If, hypothetically of course, a WoW player for example decides to go with GW2 due to it being sub-free and they can play along side WoW what would happen if they find that they're logging on to WoW less and less, missing raids then realize that they don't miss those raids, etc.?

There's a real chance that the game will begin to take up so much of a person's gaming time that they cancel other subs which are no longer being used.